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technosaurus

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Posted: Fri 09 Oct 2009, 22:40 Post subject:
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One thing I continue to hear about in Puppy reviews is the appearance that we are hap-hazardously organized and sometimes bug fixes get lost in the shuffle. Another is that we have our packages scattered about the internet and difficult to find (especially for newcomers) We have a lot of dedicated people that are willing to contribute, but no place to keep their work. I am slowly but surely attempting to correct this by establishing package maintainers, but have found that the forum has its limitations. The most dependable solution I can find is code.google.com. Developers/Contributors/Packagers can PM me for access; just include your google/gmail account info (or I can set you up with one if you don't have one - it will be ...@openplatformeducation.org)
We are starting out with 2GB for packages and 1GB for code, SVN, issue (bug) tracking, wiki ...
http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/GettingStarted
If you would like to be the maintainer for your favorite package and keep it up to date, we have several developers that are more than willing to mentor you to get you started, so don't be afraid to volunteer.
# Project members authenticate over HTTPS to allow committing changes.
svn checkout https://puppy-development.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ puppy-development --username youremail@gmail.com
# Non-members may check out a read-only working copy anonymously over HTTP.
svn checkout http://puppy-development.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ puppy-development-read-only
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raffy
Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 4636 Location: Manila
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Posted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 01:49 Post subject:
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Thanks for this , TZ.
Clicking on the link you gave brought me to "getting started", so I tried using the subdomain "puppy-development" in the bottom links, and landed here:
http://code.google.com/p/puppy-development/
Perhaps for users, this would mean:
- Issues = Bugs
- Downloads = Packages
Of course "Source" is for developers.
As to the wiki, we will see how this compares with the wikka wiki.
BTW, my gmail account allows me access to the site.
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aarf
Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 3620 Location: around the bend
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Posted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 03:29 Post subject:
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i am reluctant to use corporate america for things that can be had else where as it tends to add a distasteful flavour to the whole project
also if it is under your control you can correct issues.
like this: below
cannot see the full page in my screen (to the right) and there is no way to get to see it either. same in seamonkey.
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technosaurus

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Posted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 04:26 Post subject:
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| aarf wrote: | | i am reluctant to use corporate america for things that can be had else where as it tends to add a distasteful flavour to the whole project |
amazingly google code has the least amount of ads and the servers are more dependable than other solutions
also I posted this issue to their help area (temporary workaround - if you unmaximize the window you can move it off the screen and resize it to view)
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aarf
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Posted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 05:03 Post subject:
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| technosaurus wrote: | | aarf wrote: | | i am reluctant to use corporate america for things that can be had else where as it tends to add a distasteful flavour to the whole project |
amazingly google code has the least amount of ads and the servers are more dependable than other solutions
also I posted this issue to their help area (temporary workaround - if you unmaximize the window you can move it off the screen and resize it to view) |
cant see this has solved the issue of small screen or the other issue. i personally will not be signing up for a gmail account just to use it.
if you must go the third party route i cant see why you need to go past https://launchpad.net/ where the rest of the opensource community already is, sharing bugs and fixes among them. dependability would not be an issue there either as ubuntu /Canonical Ltd has major resource backing.
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technosaurus

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Posted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 05:20 Post subject:
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I see that you have already set it up...
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01micko

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Posted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 05:33 Post subject:
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...and recharge battery and resize pupsave
PMed T
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Lobster
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Posted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 05:42 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | I cant see why you need to go past https://launchpad.net/ |
Seems a good choice that aarf suggests
technosaurus is already using the google solution
To me it is what the developers will find most useful
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technosaurus

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Posted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 05:56 Post subject:
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If you can deal with the slowness, clutter and *buntuisms and don't mind bazaar which runs on python and several other dependencies then launchpad is fine. I avoid python whenever possible, but if someone wants to take the lead and build the 10mb worth of dependencies and test them and package them and test them then sure why not. The bug tracking feature of launchpad is better, but not really worth the trade off.
Puppy's DEVx already comes with svn and thus google code can be used now.
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aarf
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Posted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 05:58 Post subject:
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| technosaurus wrote: | | I see that you have already set it up... |
i opened the account long ago but have barely used or explored it . if you want the keys i will gladly hand them over. opened more for the advertising value and place marker than to use it myself at that time.
edit: agree that it slow perhaps the https security is partly to blame for the slowness. trade security for speed ?
giving options, the choices are not mine to make.
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Lobster
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Posted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 06:27 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Puppy's DEVx already comes with svn and thus google code can be used now |
Got it.
Would
Jacob, Aragon, Dio, or Scott
(mentioned here)
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy44Team
be willing to help with the bug reporting procedure?
They could also work on the wiki if registering
All help welcome
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Posted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 07:36 Post subject:
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| 01micko wrote: | ...and recharge battery and resize pupsave
PMed T |
i like to live on the wild unpredictable edge.
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raffy
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Posted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 08:23 Post subject:
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Yes, opening a gmail account just to use the google code site is an issue to some people. But there are already a number of developers there in the google site, so things are moving.
Non-gmail users can still download files. And even if they can't post issues directly, they can use the bug reporting facility in the Forum, after which the devs ("committers") can post the issues in the site.
So this is indeed an additional, useful resource. aarf noted that some fine-tuning needed...
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Joined: 23 Jul 2009 Posts: 758 Location: U.S., Midwest, Central Time Zone, GMT-6
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Posted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 09:54 Post subject:
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Technosaurus,
IIUC I see one (experimental?) bug reported. Should I infer that you and other developers support this as your (their) preferred solution? If so then there is no need for me to reinvent the wheel with a duplicate and/or less acceptable bug tracker. Please give me a clear indication of what you think is best in this regard. Dropping my proposed bug tracker is no skin off my nose as I have other avenues for assisting Puppy Linux.
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technosaurus

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Posted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 11:02 Post subject:
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I can establish a separate login if you don't have a gmail account. (if you already have a gmail account it just lets me be a little bit lazy)
Launchpad would be ok for later woof built U and D pups. I'd be fine with using it as the sole bug tracker, but for all of the source stuff google code is more usable at the moment.
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