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Bilingual Japanese/English Puppy setup
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gennoveus


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PostPosted: Sat 10 Oct 2009, 22:38    Post_subject:  Bilingual Japanese/English Puppy setup
Sub_title: Mostly OK but...
 

Hello

I'm was an Ubuntu user and I've just recently got into puppy linux - and I really love it.

I just about have everything set up as I like but I'm having a few issues with Japanese text. I work as a translator so I need this stuff to be working! Very Happy

It was a breeze to get Japanese input working, but there are two (probably related) nagging problems this noob can't solve. Rolling Eyes

If you see the screenshot attachment to this post, you'll see that:
A) text in the top bar of dialog boxes appears as boxes (top of seamonkey) and...
B) File and folder names in rox show up as question marks.

Please help me! I didn't notice these problems until I had already spent ages getting my puppy setup just right, so I'd like to keep installing the Japanese version of puppy as a last resort. (as it means I'll have to do everything all over again)

Thanks in advance for any help!
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shinobar


Joined: 28 May 2009
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 18:43    Post_subject: Re: Bilingual Japanese/English Puppy setup
Sub_title: Mostly OK but...
 

gennoveus wrote:
I just about have everything set up as I like but I'm having a few issues with Japanese text. I work as a translator so I need this stuff to be working! Very Happy

hi, gennoveus

The font names are wrong in .jwmrc, /.jwm/jwmrc-theme, .jwm/themes/xxx-xxx-jwmrc, /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc, etc.
Code:
<Font>DejaVu Sans-12</Font>

is to be
Code:
<Font>DejaVu Sans 12</Font>

This link maybe a help.

but i recommend you puppy 4.30 japanese edition.
it is already set up as a japanese/english bilingual.
it is firstly all japanese, but you can change the locale to en_US.UTF-8 or any others.
then all desktop and applications turn to english and you can still read and write japanese.

puppy 4.30JP's final release shall be a couple of days after, but you can try it now by using the Releae Candidate.
Announcement
japanese forum

P.S.
I realized 4.30JP in locale other than ja_JP-UTF-8 does not display japanese at the title bar.
i will check it up.
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YoN


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 19:16    Post_subject:  

gennoveus

Yes please try Puppy4.3 Japanese edition.

1: Boot from 4.3JP
2: Desktop > Chooselocale country localtion
3: Choose your locale. e.g. un_US: English, USA
4: Chick URF-8-encoding
5: Set your keyboad.

You can also use Japanese Input Method.
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Makoto


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 19:25    Post_subject:  

I'm using Puppy 4.2.1, and have already managed to get Japanese to display properly in Seamonkey/Firefox (but not in the titlebar, as mentioned above). Is it easy to setup a way to enter Japanese text? I've been using JWPCE through WINE to enter text, then copy it to the clipboard and paste it where needed.

Is there even a Japanese-capable word processor available for Linux?

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shinobar


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 19:41    Post_subject: Re: Bilingual Japanese/English Puppy setup
Sub_title: Mostly OK but...
 

shinobar wrote:
I realized 4.30JP in locale other than ja_JP-UTF-8 does not display japanese at the title bar.

It is tricky but set the locale to th_TH.UTF-8 on 4.30JP. Then the tile bar shows japanese, multibyte chalactors. zh/ko maybe does not because of lack of chinese/korean locale on puppy 4.3.

Makoto, we recomend you again puppy 4.30JP.
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gennoveus


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 20:25    Post_subject:  

Yonさん(様w)、Shinobarさん、ありがとうございます。 Very Happy

簡単に直せるようなもんだと思ったけどPuppyの日本語版をインストールした方が早いというならそうします!

4.3がまだだと思った!早速ダウンロードして見よ。メニューとかは日本語のままでいいや! Very Happy

Makoto wrote:
Is it easy to setup a way to enter Japanese text? I've been using JWPCE through WINE to enter text, then copy it to the clipboard and paste it where needed.


Makotoさん、このリンク先を見てください。
scim-1.4.7-i486.pet
scim-bridge-0.4.15-i486.pet
gtk+-2.12.1-xinput.pet(4.2/4.3じゃなかったらこれは要らない…てか、Pupeeeにこれをインストールしたら固まってしまった!)
Scim-anthy
gconv4dingo.pet(これも4.xじゃなかったら要らないでーす)
をインストールすればOK. Twisted Evil
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Makoto


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct 2009, 05:07    Post_subject: Re: Bilingual Japanese/English Puppy setup
Sub_title: Mostly OK but...
 

shinobar wrote:
Makoto, we recomend you again puppy 4.30JP.


I use an old Win98 machine (actually a Win98 system HD transplanted into what was originally a WinME tower), and I'm not sure it'll work with Puppy 4.3, yet. It does seem to require the Retro kernel. I'll probably try the Retro and non-Retro versions of 4.3 on this system sooner or later, to see if they work.

gennoveus: Thanks! (I would reply in Japanese, but I'm a bit rusty. (This, even considering I do some translation work, now and then, too... Shocked )

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gennoveus


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct 2009, 08:06    Post_subject:  

Oops sorry I thought you were Japanese! Laughing

Anyway, just click the link in my post above, it'll tell you exactly how to install Japanese input in older versions (in English)

I finished downloading the new Japanese version of 4.3 so I'll install that now ... Very Happy
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shinobar


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct 2009, 09:44    Post_subject: Re: Bilingual Japanese/English Puppy setup
Sub_title: Mostly OK but...
 

Makoto wrote:
I use an old Win98 machine (actually a Win98 system HD transplanted into what was originally a WinME tower), and I'm not sure it'll work with Puppy 4.3, yet. It does seem to require the Retro kernel. I'll probably try the Retro and non-Retro versions of 4.3 on this system sooner or later, to see if they work.

Makoto,
the 4.30 japanese edition is provided with 3 different kernels, 4.30JP, 4.30stdJP, and 4.30retroJP.
hope you will find suitable one.
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Makoto


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct 2009, 15:04    Post_subject:  

gennoveus wrote:
Oops sorry I thought you were Japanese! Laughing


Close. Smile It's just that while I work with the language, I haven't had many opportunities over the years to actually speak it with someone else. Embarassed Also, I may tend to slip into informal/slang, which isn't necessarily a good idea. Smile

Quote:
Anyway, just click the link in my post above, it'll tell you exactly how to install Japanese input in older versions (in English)


I had checked the link. I don't think I would have minded if it were in Japanese, though. Smile

shinobar wrote:
Makoto,
the 4.30 japanese edition is provided with 3 different kernels, 4.30JP, 4.30stdJP, and 4.30retroJP.
hope you will find suitable one.


Ah, okay. Is that selected at boot?
I'll keep it in mind when I get around to trying 4.3. I haven't been in a hurry to test it because 4.2.1 works for me, though. Embarassed

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YoN


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct 2009, 18:36    Post_subject:  

For your information about Chooselocale country localisation:

Left button is "Restart X", Right one is "Done? or Finished"


I don't know Howto start IME in english keyboard.
But in Japanese 106 keyboard, hit left-upper key(left of "1,!" key).
These may be set by SCIM preference.

I think that there is a part where Japanese version 4.3 has advanced more than an English version.

Please experience a Japanese version 4.3 by all means.
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gennoveus


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PostPosted: Fri 16 Oct 2009, 23:52    Post_subject:  

3日間ぐらい日本語版を使ってますが、大満足です!

ありがとうございます^^
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Nov 2009, 13:36    Post_subject:  

I followed the links to both
http://www.puppylinux.ca/members/Irihapeti
and
http://www.puppylinux.asia/members/Irihapeti

but it says

Not Found

The requested URL /members/Irihapeti was not found on this server.

Were they permanently removed?
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YoN


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PostPosted: Wed 25 Nov 2009, 05:42    Post_subject:  

Hi ppenguin,

Here on Shinobar's site, there are Puppy Linux Japanese latest editions ISOs.

http://122.102.213.192/puppy/pup4/

Latest one is pup-431JP-RC5.1125.4.iso

And 4.30JP edition is Here;

http://openlab.jp/puppylinux/index.html.en

Puppy 4.3.1 JP Final will be soon!!

If you can read Japanese, visit our japanese forum;

http://sakurapup.browserloadofcoolness.com/
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