Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

vellowax · Posted: Wed 23 Dec 2009, 13:29 Post subject:

Hi...
Is there anyone could help me with desktop icon grid and desktop margin setting in NOP 431.
cause i want my desktop icons closer with each other icons..

Any help appreciated...
Thanks..

friedsonjm · Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 205

This is EXCELLENT! First puppy that installs to my USB Flash drive properly and STAYS persistent. [I've tried maybe 6 of the latest out...]
Now, I need to find .sfs files for late(est) versions of Firefox and Thunderbird..
jf

Henry · Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 811 Location: Oregon USA

NOP 413r1 Background - It runs our violin shop and publishing business, including our book library, e-commerce, and 12 years of email archives. It's the best and only computer I use. No more dual boot!
Live CD with pup_save.2fs. The rest of the hard drive is fat32 (working data and add-on programs). Everything works well, even the hodge-podge of the following applications!

Native Linux - Xfce, Cups, Xsane, Adobe Reader, Opera, Thunderbird, Bluefish, Gftp, Xine, Gimp, mtPaint, OpenOffice, Xorg
Wine - Adobe Acrobat, Address Book, Calendar, SyncBack, Ocr-Sprint, and Deepburner.
VirtualBox (Win2K) - 2000Lite, Moon Antivirus, WordPerfect, Photoshop Elements, RootsMagic 4, GedHTree in a 3Gb virtual hard drive.
Hardware - Five year old Shuttle ST62K with Intel Pentium 4, 1Gb Ram, internal heat pipe, external power supply. CD/DVD Drive, USB Card Reader, 19" LCD 1280 x 1024 x 24. LaserJet 2100 printer, Hp 4480 inkjet-scanner. 80Gb internal hard drive, 80 Gb external backup drive as ready replacement.
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Here is the process I used to upgrade Upgrade NOP 413r1 to 431r1, including VirtualBox. This will not fit other live CD installations exactly but may serve as an example:

Read gray's http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=47128
Keep /mnt/home/pup_save-Old.2fs and copy it as /mnt/home/pup_save-New.2fs (by any safe means)
Reboot and run it.
Uninstall virtualbox-3.02_k2.6.25.16.pet
In boot manager unload the old Acroread_7_0_5.sfs, OpenOffice310_JRE_lzma_413.sfs, wine_1.0-rc4-i686_413.sfs
Reboot into /mnt/home/pup_save-Old.2fs
Rename pup_save-New.2fs to pupsave-New.2fs
Insert Nop 4.3.1r1 Live CD and boot pupsave-New.2fs
Install needed ATI video driver xf86-video-ati-6.12.4-i686.pet
Adjust desktop, display, etc to conform to previous using Xfce Settings Manager.
Import old bookmarks into new Opera version, readjust its fonts, directory locations, etc.
Install wine-1.1.23.pet
In boot manager load adobe-9.2-1-sfs4.sfs, openoffice-3.1.1-sfs4.sfs
Reboot and confirm operation of sfs's and wine
Update as needed shortcuts or launchers to the new wine programs and sfs's.
Update /mnt/home/VBoxGuestAdditions.iso per http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=47128
Install virtualbox-3.1_k2.6.30.5.pet
Install xorg_xorg_dri-7.3.1.pet
Run VirtualBox
You can from now boot either the Old (Nop 413r1) or the New (Nop431r1) until you feel it's safe to delete the Old.

Henry

Henry · Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 811 Location: Oregon USA

While 4.3x seems superior in many ways, it is difficult to find the needed program versions yet. I did find the OpenOffice sfs that Barry provided for 4.3, but when it opens there is a double error message -
"Error loading BASIC of document
file:///root/.openpffice.org/3/user/basic/dialog.xlc/:
General Error.
General input/output error.
OK"

Thanks for any good advice. This may not be the right place for such questions ?, but I'll start here.

EDIT: Receiving no response, I have since asked about this in
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=376353#376353
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I have also updated that as SOLVED. What worked was this:

I renamed /root/.openoffice.org to /root/.openoffice.org_obsolete

This gave me a new /root/.openoffice.org which required me to create a new profile, but the error messages are gone.
Henry

JMX · Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 23

Henry,

I know this is not directly responsive to your Open Office Org issue (and beyond my capabilities) but have you tried the Softmaker Office 2008 pet recently posted by ttuuxxx?

Works perfectly in NOP431.

Henry · Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 811 Location: Oregon USA

JMX,

Thanks for the suggestion. I have been familiar with Textmaker for many years.. My Nop 413 works perfectly, and I am just working out small problems in upgrading to Nop 431, for what that may be worth.

OpenOffice, even with that annoying error message, would handle any incoming MS office stuff, as when Amazon sends me a spreadsheet, or a relative sends me a scenic powerpoint. As a professional writer I still use the best word processor, WordPerfect, even though I have to run it in VirtualBox. Wine has never worked with it and probably never will Sad

Yes, ttuuxxx does a a lot of great stuff, and has helped me before.

Henry

yerc1 · Joined: 09 Jan 2009 Posts: 51

Older NOP versions can shut down my old laptop compaq nx9040 cleanly. However, 431r1 version cannot do it properly

With no boot option, shutting down turns the screen a blank black and just sits there.
With acpi=off option, shutting down results in a "System halted" message but won't turn the laptop off. I have to manually press the power button to power off the computer.

Has anyone encountered the same issue and found a fix?
(I note from the Puppy forum that users of the stock Puppy are having the same issue unresolved - http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=48996)

droope · Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 814 Location: Uruguay, Mercedes

Hi

Tried your NOP. It's great! Thank you. : )

Cheers!
Droope

vellowax · Posted: Mon 04 Jan 2010, 11:40 Post subject:

algyzas · Joined: 24 Nov 2008 Posts: 21

This is really strange pupplet, I couldn't find how to add keyboard layout
http://img97.imageshack.us/i/layouts.png/
It's not available to add keyboard layouts to panel also. Wtf people, it is 2010 year around and such strange things. Xfce is attempting to be a desktop environment, but not in this case, here it could be a headache to make everything in order, worse than jwm.

8-bit · Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 3012 Location: Oregon

Squishy · Joined: 28 Dec 2009 Posts: 22

I don't get it... I've downloaded the NOP 431r1 and 431 ISO's from the OP link, burned to disc... And both just come up as bog standard Puppy 431. Still has JWM/Rox, still has all office apps and still has Seamonkey instead of Opera. Am I missing something here?

edoc · Posted: Mon 04 Jan 2010, 21:06 Post subject:

Have you looked at OxygenOffice (souped-up OpenOffice)?

It seems to handle everything out there - and no need for Wine or anything else.

More than one professional editor/writer has expressed satisfaction with it.

8-bit · Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 3012 Location: Oregon

fgenius · Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 17 Location: Chicago, USA

I can confirm there is some pretty strange behavior with the wireless, sometimes. I have an intel 4965 which showed and connected fine in nop 4.1.3, but the iwl4965 option doesn't even appear in nop 4.3.1 even though the .ucode file is actually there. As a consequence, wireless is kaput on my laptop.

Maybe some missing libraries?

Thanks!