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#16 Post by Jim1911 »

You're very wise to run from a live CD before committing to an installation to make sure it works on your hardware.

You may have another defective CD or possibly you need a different kernel for your computer. Are all the correct files as indicated earlier present?

Try a retro version of 4.2.1 or another retro version that you could try is dpup-477beta1 which, although in beta, is more up-to-date and is very fast and stable. See http://www.dpup.org/downloads.html to download.

Try burning your CD at a slower speed.

Don't get discouraged, there are numerous puppy derivatives available that should work on your hardware. Once, you find the right one, you'll be amazed at the speed and added capability your pup will provide your hardware.

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#17 Post by T_Hobbit »

vek wrote:T_Hobbit,

I tried your suggestion all the way to Step 4 but I am still getting the same message: pup-431.sfs not found...dropping out to initial-ramdisk console
/bin/sh: can't access tty;job control turned off.

To all others,

I burned a new ISO image of the Puppy Linux Live CD but I am getting exactly the same message.

Please help. Thanks everybody...I will wait for more suggestions.
Rename the files to the correct names and in lowercase, like told you in another post of this thread. It should work after.
DON'T FORGET TO WRITE IT RIGHT: pup-431.sfs AND NOT pup_431.sfs
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#18 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

Hello :)!

1) Just a thought, I'm no expert at hardware, though, could it be that the CD-drive in question needs special drivers to be included in initrd.gz?

2) Another (long-shot): In 214X, we had problems with running out of inodes in initrd.gz, when having many partitions, causing the same symptoms, dropping out to command line in initial ramdisk.
Once you're dropped out there, could you run mount, df, and df -i and relay the output therefrom?

fwiw :)/
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#19 Post by T_Hobbit »

This problem with the file name's happens when the ISO is burned at Windows, it doesn't handle right the file names. It happened to me also.

Go to your HD puppy directory and rename the files to the correct names and in lowercase, like told in another post of this thread. It should work after.
NOTE: DON'T FORGET TO WRITE IT RIGHT: pup-431.sfs AND NOT pup_431.sfs! (not screaming - just to call your attention to this point)
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#20 Post by frefel »

Vek;

Did you see my 2 posts in this thread? Why don't you think you are having the same problem as I?

My TP T22 is also a Pent. 3 model and I am getting the same message on boot-up from the 4.3 live CD. You will see, based on my efforts, that the problem is apparently the newer kernel in the 4.3 version being incompatible with our older processor. Bummer, but I'm going to try the Retro version as suggested by T Hobbit.

Interestingly the Puppy update description mentions that the new kernel is designed to work with newer chips but that it will still function with the older ones - we say not true.

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#21 Post by vek »

T_Hobbit,

Yes, I did rename and lower-cased the file names before I followed your suggested procedure (all 4 steps) but I got the same exact error message.

frefel,

I will try your suggestion and will let you know if it works on my old IBM Thinkpad. BTW, I tried it on an old Dell desktop (Pentium III, 128 MB RAM) running Windows ME today and it worked! It must be an IBM thing then.

Thanks everybody...I will keep trying.

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#22 Post by T_Hobbit »

Old kernel... according to my signature... I'm using it!
Yes, I did had the some problem... solved with the old kernel I supposed...
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#23 Post by frefel »

Woops, I see that there is no Retro version of 4.3.1 on the download site and since thr regular 4.2.1 works on my Thinkpad I guess I'll stay with it or try the DPup as suggested by Jim1911

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#24 Post by vek »

frefel,

I tried the puppy 4.2.1 retro and it works in my IBM Thinkpad!

I will be trying out Puppy Linux before finally installing it and I am loving it already.

Thank you, everybody.

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#25 Post by warrenweiss »

I first noticed the error

pup-431.sfs not found

a week or so ago when I spun up Puppy Linux 4.3.1 and again tonight when I tried to boot Browserlinux 3.5.4. The *.sfs file in the iso is misnamed with an underscore instead of a dash.

The fix is to extract the iso to a directory, correct the mistake and remake the iso. ...or, you could just wait for Puppy 4.3.2. :D

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#26 Post by warrenweiss »

You know, forget my last post. I guess I don't know what I thought I know about ISO formats...especially when burning CDs and DVDs on Windows boxes.

I had been using DeepBurner without any trouble until now. On a whim, I used MagicISO this time and successfully burned the ISO.

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#27 Post by frefel »

That is fascintating Warrenweiss but is not my problem in that I ran the 4.3.1 cd on my desktop and it loaded without a hitch. There is something about Vek's and my Thinkpads. Could it just be the fact that they are Pent 3 machines? If that were the case you'd think that there would have been a lot of posts like this thread.

So far I've tried 4.3, 4.31, BrowserPup and dPup retro - none will load. What else could it be besides the newer kernel since I 4.2.1 loads fine?

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#28 Post by warrenweiss »

frefel wrote:
That is fascintating Warrenweiss but is not my problem in that I ran the 4.3.1 cd on my desktop and it loaded without a hitch. There is something about Vek's and my Thinkpads. Could it just be the fact that they are Pent 3 machines?
No, I don't think it's because they're PIIIs. I've done some more testing and I think it could be because of how the drivers - or perhaps which drivers - are loaded by Puppy upon boot.

I am booting on a machine with a removable hard drive. Both the HDD and the DVD drive are connected to the single IDE interface on the board, master and "cable select," respectively. With the HDD removed, it boots fine. With it inserted, I get the "pup-431.sfs not found" error.

I'll bet your desktop boots because the HDD and CD/DVD are on separate interfaces, but not so with the Thinkpads. Try removing the HDD from the laptop and boot off the Puppy CD.

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#29 Post by T_Hobbit »

Try boot with "puppy acpi=off" or "puppy pci=noacpi" your current 4.3.1 version

or try the Retro 4.3.1 version's
Retro
or
Retro with no Intel modem drivers
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#30 Post by mikeb »

Newer kernels don't like older ide devices.....be they hard drives or cd/dvd drives.
One machine yesterday saw the dvd drive but could not mount a disc and did not create a device node (creating one did not help).
So basically in linux land if your older hardware is still running but you want the latest kernel then the answer is erm 'tough'.....(slaxer kernel is kinder )
By the way the puppy 2.6.21.7 kernel saw everything just fine

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#31 Post by rjbrewer »

vek wrote:My IBM Thinkpad :
Pentium III 933 MHZ
129,968 KB RAM
MS Windows 2000 SP3

I recently bought a Puppy Linux live CD from LinuxCd.org but when I try to run the live CD, I get this error message: "pup-431.sfs not found...dropping out to initial-ramdisk console...#.

Please help...I am a complete newbie to Linux.

Thank you.
Tried 4.1.2 and 4.3.1 on a T21, 256mb ram: both work, no problem.

Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs

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#32 Post by frefel »

rjbrewer - then what is happening to me I wonder? And I have 512 of RAM and a slightly newer model than yours.

mikeeb - then what about rjbrewer's comment (above)?

T_Hobbit - I can't get to the boot options. The first and last thing on the screen says "GRUB loading, error, file not found, grub rescue", (flashing cursor).

warrenweiss - The Thinkpad won't even get to a BIOS screen without the HD in place and says so in big red letters.

SOLVED! for my case at least; I have a neighbor with an identical machine and 4.3.1 loads fine on his. Something wrong with my laptop. Thanks to everbody for the advice.

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#33 Post by T_Hobbit »

I'm not near my Puppy machine. All I can say is that you need to edit your grub.conf file and add the correct parameters.

Search the forum on how to edit grub.
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Thinkpad 600e pup-431.sfs not found

#34 Post by NorwichDouble »

I am a complete newbie. I have at last got Puppy 431 to work on a pair of Thinkpad 600e's (2645 8A0), with original BIOS INET24/25 from 1999. Memory about 97MB. They both have Belkin 7010 wireless lan PC cards fitted (Broadcom 4306 [14e4:4320](rev03), so fairly old and needing b43 driver, i think.

In the bios, I have, as recommended, turned off Fast Boot.

Put the Puppy 4.3.1 live cd in the drive, and switch on. When the screen offering boot options appears, press F2. At the prompt, type puppy acpi=force then press Return.

When the main Puppy screen appears - do not start doing anything. Particularly do not touch ALSA.

Go to menu -shutdown. (This is the essential part.) OK your way out, alowing Puppy to save various files to the hard disk. You may have to switch off manually at the end.

Now slide the start button and hopefully Puppy will load ok.
To get sound, left click on the loudspeaker Ikon an the bottom, and slide the slider up to max. Then rt click the ikon again to pull up a volume control screen. Slide the two sliders on the left (MASTER, PCM) up to the top. Oh, and on your keyboard, hold down Fn and press PgUp until loud bleeps are heard. That completes the sound, except to say that trying to use ALSA sound wizard makes my machine crash.

Wireless: Click on the Telephone ikon, labelled CONNECT. The Internet connection wizard appears. If you are lucky, it will say:
Available network interfaces: wlan0.
If so, follow the instructions and you will soon be surfing.
I have tried to put in all the details that a newbie like me would need.
(This system will not work if you have already got Puppy files on the hard drive. I went into MSDOS and deleted all three puppy files before starting to give myself a clean beginning.)
By the way, I had tried DSL and Ubuntu before Puppy, and I couldn't get the sound to work at all with them.

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#35 Post by rokytnji »

Ibm A22, PIII 1000 mhz, 256 mb of ram, 712 mb primary swap partition, 20 gig hardrive.

Has full install of Puppy 4 Dingo on 20 gig hardrive with Belkin F5D7010 ver.6 Wireless G PCMCIA Cardbus with Raylink chipset running RT61 driver. Wlano and Etho both work fine. Kernel version 2.6.21.7.

I should probably leave Dingo alone but i thought I would experiment and try a upgrade to 4.31 with the 2.6.30.5 Kernel. I know I could try a older Kernel Version of a Newer Puppy version. But if it aint broke. I aint gonna fix it. Experiment over.

Md5sum correct. CD burnt at 4X speed. Boots fine till "cant find sfs" and drops to root #. To double check CD I am posting now from it running Live on my IBM M57 Desktop. Booted up fine on it.

Desktop is newer gear than the A22 Thinkpad so I figure it is a kernel issue. Problem is not with name of sfs file on Cd because I checked name in Ubuntu 8.04 (Desktop install) . Besides, boots up OK on other gear.

So Dingo will be left alone and I will archive the CD for other uses. Especially after reading the problems associated with upgrading to 4.31 in the 4.31 bug reports thread. Just thought I'd toss this out here for info purposes.

I don't run Windows, Only Linux.

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