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[big_bass]

this is just a small snippet so as to focus on the code example vovchick posted above
which sends out the arguments how the BaCon app was run with and
make the all of the env available to BaCon !
I will just pull out the env string bash version for this example
a big thanks to vovchick

Joe

[vovchik]

Dear puppians,

Here is a little demo that shows how to do graphic overlays in BaCon, making direct use of gtk/gdk libs. With just a few additions - i.e. passed parameters, horizontal and vertical offests and a routine for canvas size - this can replace IM for overlay creation. Have a look. The source and two images are in the archive, as well as a lucid binary. The binary weighs in at 34k, which is better, I think, than 8+ MB for an unpacked IM (although IM is great for many, many things!).

With kind regards,
vovchik

[jpeps]

thanks! Any advantage over using mtPaint? (guess if you needed to script it...)

[vovchik]

Dear jpeps,

I am certain that mtpaint can do that type of thing well - I just don't know how. It was really easier, for me at least, to program my own little routine for that particular job And I learned something at the same time

With kind regards,
vovchik

[wjaguar]

[big_bass]

Hey vovchik

I know how long you have been trying to remove the imagemagick dependency in the backend
while using your overlay app pikonahttp://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1673665206&t=49129
congratulations on getting a test run example going with just BaCon and HUG
and no other dependencies
and at such a small size

Joe

[jpeps]

[wjaguar]

[vovchik]

Dear puppians,

@ Joe

[jpeps]

[jpeps]

[vovchik]

Dear jpeps,

The reason jpg images are never used for icons is because they, by design, have no transparency. The "object" in the centre will always be accompanied by a background of some sort and there will be some dithering with respect to colours. There is, moreover, no alpha channel. Using jpgs for icons is, on the whole, a non-starter unless you add a transparent background and then remove the existing colour around an object and save back in a format that recognizes transparency such as png. Xpm images do have transparency, but they are limited in the number of colours they can display. Mac OSX icns and M$ ico support transparency and millions of colours, too, but for *nix, the standard is png or svg (for vector graphics).

With kind regards,
vovchik

[jpeps]

Very interesting, vovchik. mtPaint isn't recognizing the transparency format, so maybe that's why the jpg format looked better...although it comes with a backround, as you noted. A gif transformation (which also supports an alpha channel) looked the same as png.

You can create the transparency with the "opacity" slider in the layers window (as I did in my post) , although the background is part of the object.

It looks like your experiment will lead to some mtPaint development by wjaguar. (wow...he doesn't miss anything! )

[big_bass]

here is an update of bacon2bbc
It was bacon2bbc but since this is modified lets use bacon2bb

it now reduces the code 400 lines by using a DATA command

I want to comment that GatorDog was kind enough to show me
quite a few ways to improve the code from a PM he sent
I havent used all of his suggestions because
I need to keep it as simple as possible *so I understand what I'm doing* and at the same time
using the good ideas (the other ideas I will apply to my future snippets though so thanks rod )

there is a basic progress view now just dots but... hey
the linux kernel does that too

I will keep at this I am writing a script to do this faster so more to come
but its complete for practical use for adding color to the forum posts
and simple enough for a code example to hack at

[vovchik]

Dear Joe,

I appreciate what you are trying to do - make code listings more readable - but the "[quote]" solution seems to have its own problems. While the color coding is great, "[quote]" eliminates all leading white space, so far as I can tell, which means all structural indentation disappears. The "[code]" directive preserves the structure a bit by converting tabs into single spaces but, alas, has no color. BB code does not seem to allow for the best of both worlds, unfortunately, so it is either colors for keywords and no structure or structure and no colored keywords. I have tried all sorts of combinations to get something working in a BB sandbox http://www.bbcode.org/playground.php and have failed. Any ideas or workarounds?

With kind regards,
vovchik