pupRadio (with pupTelly)

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#46 Post by tlchost »

musher0 wrote:If anybody wants a really HUGE listing of Internet radio stations, download ScreamerRadio for Windows, unpack the presets.xml.gz file, and copy & paste to mplayer or whatever. All genres imaginable!
Is there suck a list for TV broadcasts?

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#47 Post by 01micko »

ttuuxxx wrote:Hi micko, It would be nice to use streamripper, Precord is complicated, would drive new users nuts, where as streamripper is basic and just works, no need to configure your mic's soundcard etc, nothing. streamripper commands are located at http://streamripper.sourceforge.net/tutorialconsole.php , Think about it you already have a record button, just add a stop button :) and that's it :) Precord doesn't work on my system either alsa never finds half the stuff it should on my motherboard, but streamripper works on it because it does it differently. Great little tool.
Anyways its a nice little player:) and thanks
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Nice what you have done.

I have seen you made mods to pupRadio in the "updating 2 series" thread. Could you kindly post a pet or tarball of the scripts.

Precord is not hard coded into pupRadio. Any recorder could be used. I think it would be great to give the user that choice and it would not take much modification of pupRadio. I intend to update the gui slightly anyway.

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#48 Post by 01micko »

V 0.5.2 is out

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(btw, thanks for hacked code ttuuxxx, not yet implemented)

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#49 Post by 01micko »

0.5.3 is out

Added support for Gnome-mplayer especialy for Quirky. It is somewhat experimental, but hey, so is Quirky! :)

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#50 Post by vovchik »

Dear Mick,

Great work. It occurred to me that vlc and smplayer could be added very simply with a slight mod the the main pupradio script, i.e.:

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PLAYER=`which mplayer`
GXINE=`which gxine`
XINE=`which xine`
GMPLAYER=`which gnome-mplayer`
SMPLAYER=`which smplayer`
VLCPLAYER=`which vlc`

echo "" > $APP_DIR/playerlist
if [ "$MPLAYER" != "" ]; then echo "mplayer" >> $APP_DIR/playerlist ; fi
if [ "$GXINE" != "" ]; then echo "gxine" >> $APP_DIR/playerlist ; fi
if [ "$XINE" != "" ]; then echo "xine" >> $APP_DIR/playerlist ; fi
if [ "$GMPLAYER" != "" ]; then echo "gnome-mplayer" >> $APP_DIR/playerlist ; fi
if [ "$SMPLAYER" != "" ]; then echo "smplayer" >> $APP_DIR/playerlist ; fi
if [ "$VLCPLAYER" != "" ]; then echo "vlc" >> $APP_DIR/playerlist ; fi
I am already using 0.5.3 this way already. Any thoughts?

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#51 Post by tasmod »

Can anyone with a working webcam, that works in mplayer. With mplayer as default player in pupradio.

Please try this in the puptv part.

/dev/video0


I have a part working webcam but it occured to me that it may launch a working cam in puptv
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#52 Post by clarf »

vovchik:

That´s not so easy to implement you have to add the correct stream execution code for each application, i.e:

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smtrearriper $URL -d /root/my_music -q
that could differs from other applications...

Moreover some stream player can not handle some extensions like .lst or .m3u to name some. Then you have you know that information and do many test. Anyway its possible to add that features.

01micko:

I would like to see in next pupRadio version some feature we added for 214X, For example pupRadio current version can record only those stations specified with a URL, with 214X update you can record the station that is actually playing (I mean the playing station when you psuh the Record button)

I like the way you are coding pupRadio it´s easy to add new functionality with little changes, Great work 01micko, please keep developing it.

Greetings,
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#53 Post by vovchik »

Dear clarf,

I realize that some applications have different parameters and additional players would require figuring those parameters out (accomplished either by running the app with --help in a terminal or by reading the man page). Streamripper seems like one such app. However, regarding those players I added to the sample code (smplayer and vlc), I have already run tests and both smplayer (mplayer gui in qt) and vlc seem to work as expected without additional fiddling. This is important in respect of some "difficult" streams as vlc can, I think, handle a great many without recourse to external codecs and libs.

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#54 Post by clarf »

Dear vovchik

Your founds about vlc are very important and your work is appreciated, it´s also important to consider the extension used by some stream stations, hope you can do more test about this particular issue. As always enough test and user supports is the best wayto make a good an stable application.

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PupRadio for Quirky

#55 Post by bigpup »

01micko,

Feedback on using Quirky 006 Gnome-Mplayer:

In Quirky 006:
Updated to PupRadio 0.5.3

in prefered player selected Gnome-Mplayer.
Seems to work ok for radio and telly video.

In radio, it looks like you are just using two different GUI's to play the sound. Gnome-Mplayer is a GUI for mplayer and so is PupRadio.

In Puptelly, using Gnome-Mplayer gives you much more control and options for the video.

Issue with Gnome-Mplayer:
It had to load a cache before the radio would play.
When it starts, the volume is set to off and has to be increased with the volume control.

Keep in mind that this is being used in Quirky and it is cutting edge new stuff. Barry is playing and doing all types of quirky things!!!!

I like what Gnome-Mplayer gives you for options in Puptelly.

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#56 Post by 01micko »

Hi guys

Thanks for your interest in pupRadio/pupTelly.

First of all a bit of a rant. What inspired me to make pupRadio first of all was puppyluvr's PupTV. It was a good effort, his first gui app, but it had shortcomings, but I managed to get around those in allowing channel updating. Nevertheless, it was cumbersome and a little inefficient. Next came trio's Pstreamvid. Much better, but in my opinion a little ugly in the gui department.

I took inspiration from both those apps and added Radio .. (er yes, I know I said it the other way around in the main post but.. I lied!! :o :shock: ). However, many people use radio streams probably more so than video streams. For one, they are more consistent, normally they don't come and go so often. Video streams come and go all the time, I'm just lucky the eight I chose as default are still up. Ironically one of the radio streams seems to have died, CGFP, so in the 0.5.3 version I replaced it.

When I first designed the gui I was mindful of other player support, so unlike Pstreamvid, which opts for notebook tabs to switch players, I went for the combobox, making it very easy to add new players as I figure out how to support them. The first one was xine thanks to prehistoric and then a work around for gxine 0.904 thanks to Barry.

vovchik

Now, Smplayer I know nothing about, but I guess it is a derivative of Mplayer, and as such would have very similar options. It seems the radio needs minimal options, and at the moment none are in place, but of course that is easy to adjust. Telly has the structure in place since the integration of Xine, so different options are easy to implement, as you have seen.

VLC is another I know little about but did have a look at. I saw that it has a problem running as root, however I have not tried. If you can send more info about options that you need for vlc with pupRadio and Telly I will implement support for it, and the same goes for Smplayer.

clarf

To be honest I haven't yet looked at the changes you and ttuuxxx made to pupRadio for 214X. They do sound innovative, and that is the beauty of open source and this forum.

With the example code you pointed out to vovchik, well that would be easy to implement, if something needs something after the command then another variable can be assigned, even if it needs a pop up window to adjust it's value, and of course it's default value can be null, as to not affect other players' needs.

Rob

Still no luck with that webcam? Mustn't be UVC. Perhaps a driver will turn up somewhere. I still think you should start a thread about it. :wink: . First to answer would be tempestuous.

tlchost

Er, sorry, but the best I came up with, without looking too hard, was SquidTV, the button in the gui points to it.. that was Barry's find.

bigpup

Thanks for testing and your comments. I am thinking to allow a different player for pupRadio and pupTelly. It would probably simplify some options behind the scenes too. It would then allow you to use mplayer for radio and gnome-mplayer for telly.

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I will keep developing this app as long as it is fun, still is so far.. :D

Cheers all,

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#57 Post by James C »

Great little app, just installed in Upup 458......... :)

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#58 Post by bigpup »

01micko look at this and see if it is something that you would support for pupRadio.

A link to pupRadio post is listed.

MULTIMEDIA Post:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=53932

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#59 Post by 01micko »

yes, that's cool bigpup

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#60 Post by 01micko »

0.5.5 is out

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-new channels
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#61 Post by bones01 »

I'm trying pupRadio with Quirky 1.0 but I'm having trouble connecting to some local stations. The preset stations seem to work, but trying to get something else goes nowhere.

I'm sure I'm using the correct URL but striking out. Here's a couple of stations I like to listen to, and found the URL from the "Radio WWW" button.

http://www.abc.net.au/streaming/774/774stream.asx

http://www.pbsfm.org.au/Public/ASX/3pbsfm.asx

http://sen1116.conexim.com.au/sen1116_16.asx

By default it's using mplayer.

Thanks for any help.

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Trouble connecting to some radio stations

#62 Post by bigpup »

bones01 wrote:I'm trying pupRadio with Quirky 1.0 but I'm having trouble connecting to some local stations. The preset stations seem to work, but trying to get something else goes nowhere.

I'm sure I'm using the correct URL but striking out. Here's a couple of stations I like to listen to, and found the URL from the "Radio WWW" button.

http://www.abc.net.au/streaming/774/774stream.asx

http://www.pbsfm.org.au/Public/ASX/3pbsfm.asx

http://sen1116.conexim.com.au/sen1116_16.asx

By default it's using mplayer.

Thanks for any help.

Bones
I tried to connect to the http://www.abc.net.au/streaming/774/774stream.asx station using mplayer. It would not connect.
I selected use Gnome-mplayer and it connected and played.

Not sure why it would not play in mplayer and would play in Gnome-mplayer?

One thing about streaming audio using Gnome-mplayer:
The cache setting has to be set small or it will take some time for the cache to load before you hear anything.
Cache size in Gnome-mplayer can be changed:
Start Gnome-mplayer
Select-edit-preferences
Mplayer tab
enable cache and set size low (32KB)
Should start playing audio quickly with this setting.

If you play video using Gnome-mplayer the cache size has to be made bigger (If you have a slow download speed for streaming video) to make video run smooth.

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Re: Trouble connecting to some radio stations

#63 Post by rjbrewer »

bigpup wrote:
bones01 wrote:I'm trying pupRadio with Quirky 1.0 but I'm having trouble connecting to some local stations. The preset stations seem to work, but trying to get something else goes nowhere.

I'm sure I'm using the correct URL but striking out. Here's a couple of stations I like to listen to, and found the URL from the "Radio WWW" button.

http://www.abc.net.au/streaming/774/774stream.asx

http://www.pbsfm.org.au/Public/ASX/3pbsfm.asx

http://sen1116.conexim.com.au/sen1116_16.asx

By default it's using mplayer.

Thanks for any help.

Bones
I tried to connect to the http://www.abc.net.au/streaming/774/774stream.asx station using mplayer. It would not connect.
I selected use Gnome-mplayer and it connected and played.

Not sure why it would not play in mplayer and would play in Gnome-mplayer?

One thing about streaming audio using Gnome-mplayer:
The cache setting has to be set small or it will take some time for the cache to load before you hear anything.
Cache size in Gnome-mplayer can be changed:
Start Gnome-mplayer
Select-edit-preferences
Mplayer tab
enable cache and set size low (32KB)
Should start playing audio quickly with this setting.

If you play video using Gnome-mplayer the cache size has to be made bigger (If you have a slow download speed for streaming video) to make video run smooth.
I use gxine and ttuuxxs vlc lite on my 4.1.2 and 4.3.1 installs.
I can easily get all 3 of those sites.
The abc site has Win, Real, and Mp3 feeds.
I use vlc for Win and Mp3; gxine for Real.
The other 2 sites I just choose what works.

Neither of these players will work in the new Puppies.

Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
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#64 Post by bones01 »

Does this mean that I strike out trying to listen to the radio on Lucid Puppy 5.0.1? :cry: Tried today with gxine and got nowhere, but I expected that.

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#65 Post by bones01 »

I don't seem to be able to listen to any radio station that I would like to, which is really frustrating. Doesn't seem to matter which player I try, nothing is working. Gxine stops buffering at 10% and gnome-mplayer just keeps trying to connect, but no sound.

Shrank the cache to 32, but still no difference.

Thanks for the thoughts though.

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