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Dpup 484beta Testing
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escucha


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Jan 2010, 15:07    Post subject:  

Hi MinHundHettePerro, tried wget from the very first time trough many cuts and reconnections and 89 min. (for 162 Mb!)download finally got dpup_484.
As expected really worth! Posting now from it. I prefer Firefox.

Used some iconsthemes and see no change in icon folders; Where do live this icons? Can reset the defaults?
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Jan 2010, 15:22    Post subject:  

Icon themes are installed in /usr/local/lib/X11/themes
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sailorbrand

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Jan 2010, 17:48    Post subject:  

hi,

i have posted a problem with dpup and the remaster tool. Somebody in the chat has told me, to link this here, is the right way.

hereit is...

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oui

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Jan 2010, 18:16    Post subject:  

Hi

I did find a new beta1 "5" from yesterday in the depository.

I did write immediately and start an CD with that new ISO but, oh how terrible, the old disease of the new puppy's versions reappears:

the screen of the ACER emachines laptop is terrible dark. it is not possible to read. and it is not possible to increase the brightness of the screen...

sorry

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Jan 2010, 18:30    Post subject:  

Dpup 484 does not have backlight support to my Acer laptop also, but same situation has been since Puppy 4.2. 4.12 is latest it had through /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/brightness which I have tested. It is installed by video module.
I have asked advice in different threads without cure. Compiling kernel with support to right module has been closest.

Acer-wmi adds backlight folder, but echo .... command does not alter brightness. My laptop is usually ok, but brightness is sometimes lowest. So something changes it.

So none new Puppy or puplet has support to some acer laptops I believe. Mine is Acer Travelmate 6592g.

Excuse my long story, but unable to change brightness is my biggest problem with puppies.

I tested dpup today and I installed vlc 0.86 from lenny repo succesfully. It seemed to work. VLC 1.03 should be in squuze repo so I am waiting it to puppy manager.

Streamit crashed X every time I tested it, so my laptop went totally black several times. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Jan 2010, 19:42    Post subject:  

Hi Pemasu

pemasu wrote:
unable to change brightness is my biggest problem with puppies.


exactly! this question is a major problem with puppy

and is an old problem...

but some versions don't have it: puppy 4.2 from turbopup oder the French Puplet from Petihar. with those versions, I can turn the brightness on but puppy don't remember this parameter for the next start...

and terrible is that diverse puppy friends working to make new pupplet prefer dark backgrounds and forget to offer a really hell background (white uni!) under the alternativ backgrounds...

the screen is dark, the texts are dark and the picture and background are dark... terrible!

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MinHundHettePerro


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Jan 2010, 20:06    Post subject:  

oui wrote:
and terrible is that diverse puppy friends working to make new pupplet prefer dark backgrounds and forget to offer a really hell background (white uni!) under the alternativ backgrounds...

the screen is dark, the texts are dark and the picture and background are dark... terrible!

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Though, I very well know that the german hell means light.

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Jan 2010, 22:36    Post subject:  

I have tracked down 2 patches for the backlight issue with Acer Travelmates, it is a known prob in Debian, one is a new kernel module I will have to compile which allows access to the Acer special keys, and the other is backlight adjustment utility...

I will get them out as patches, as soon as complete....


BTW, has anyone with Travelmate tried the xbacklight utility available in debian repo, or just goto PPM and in Find type xbacklight.


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jan 2010, 00:38    Post subject:  

Cool Past issues of screen display were resolved and I was able to boot into Dpup without issue.

The wbar integration felt messy and I kept having to run
restart first run wizard as my screen icons kept reappearing
- this meant I lost any customizations.
I eventually got to a point were wbar disappeared into a screen box
so again reran the wizard

The wbar is though a simple and easy option
with the initial wizard allowing a standard Puppy type icons on screen option.
In fact dpup looking and behaving like a standard Puppy initially,
makes it a straightforward transition from earlier versions.

Firefox had a modern chrome default look that I liked
and soon got used to.

The screen saver dialogue display fonts were tiny and unreadable and changing the font sizes of the desktop does not seem to modify that code.
I rather like the screen saver options and maybe if an add more screen savers were easily possible though the control panel or other method . . .

The control panel threw me again - I click on icons - nothing happens,
so I reboot - ah yes you have to click on text. Embarassed

Next I tried adding software
Nothing much came up
but Cinelerra did and I installed and Cinelerra worked OK
- well I assumed it did - seems quite an advanced video editor

So not sure where all the Debian progs are - but did not play much with the package manager

The gem game (swap adjoining gems to make three in a row) played music and could be quite addictive.
Still suffering frozen bubble withdrawal symptoms (in other Puppys) Wink
The music added a lot

Dpup seems to be making natural progress, with improved updates, testing, new programs, patches support etc

Woof Woof Smile

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jan 2010, 01:41    Post subject:  

For everyones benefit including Lobster...I forgot this font problem in Xscreensaver Setup...just install the pet below and that will be fixed...
nobody-font.pet
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pet

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Filename  nobody-font.pet 
Filesize  848 Bytes 
Downloaded  398 Time(s) 

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pemasu


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jan 2010, 04:49    Post subject:  

Acer backlight problem. I have tried xbacklight many times in different puppies. No output everytime.
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jan 2010, 04:54    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
Acer backlight problem. I have tried xbacklight many times in different puppies. No output everytime.


In console, could you do

Code:
lsmod | grep acer


and post result...if no result, could you

Code:
modprobe acer-wmi


and report

Thanks

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jan 2010, 05:54    Post subject:  

The turn around to 484beta2 will be quite quick, as 484 was such a large change from 482, there are a number of issues I have addressed which warrant a new beta release...484beta2 will be out within a day....

Cheers
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aarf

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jan 2010, 06:28    Post subject:  

dpup484 + 3 pets nobody-font.pet, pwireless-2-beta-2.5.pet, 484Beta1-patch1

1. gprs connect is failing to connect at all.
#pgrps-connect gives bash command not found.
no gprs links in network menu
gprs-connect-chatmm doesn't do anything

2. keeps asking for keyboard layout and time zone on each boot
3,first run wizard similarly keeps appearing after boot..

goodpoints: pfind can now find things again after failures in other recent puppies

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jan 2010, 07:25    Post subject:  

aarf wrote:
dpup484 + 3 pets nobody-font.pet, pwireless-2-beta-2.5.pet, 484Beta1-patch1

1. gprs connect is failing to connect at all.
#pgrps-connect gives bash command not found.
no gprs links in network menu
gprs-connect-chatmm doesn't do anything

2. keeps asking for keyboard layout and time zone on each boot
3,first run wizard similarly keeps appearing after boot..

goodpoints: pfind can now find things again after failures in other recent puppies


aarf, point 1 noted and fixed in 484beta2, but I can't duplicate your point 2 and 3 problem...is anyone else having this issue...

Thanks for report.

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