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#261 Post by Keef »

You could try rebuilding the pupngo iso using the vmlinuz from the regular 412 and see how that goes.
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#262 Post by starhawk »

Called my source for really obscure computing info (my local computer shop*) and they sez that the kernel in pUPnGO should work.

So it's not that.

*If you're within an hour of Siler City, NC, it's worth the drive. Tritech is the name of the place. Just google "Tritech NC" and they'll come right up :wink:
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#263 Post by goingnuts »

James C, starhawk, Keef: thanks for info and hints. I will have to assemble a K6-box before trouble shooting can continue in this end. My best guess right now is that its BB in the latest version thats the problem. BB is one of the first call in init...It might be that this version is compiled for i686 - that explain no problem on a PII-box and problems on a K6-box.

Update: Changing BB solves the boot but other bins might also be compiled for i686 - so until a new build is made - for K6 use pupngo200810 and for newer hardware you should be able to use pUPnGO_V412_041210.
Sorry for this inconvenience!
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#264 Post by starhawk »

You don't have to mess with making everything work on the K6 just for me -- I just wanted to be able to boast about running something so awesome on really ancient hardware :lol: no need to trouble yourself sick on my account.
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#265 Post by James C »

Just because we had about 6 inches of snow last night and I decided to stay in today, I rebuilt the pupngo 041210 iso with the default 4.12 kernel.....same result. :)
Booted the regular 041210 disc" puppy loglevel=7"...........stops booting at mouse detection......verified 3 times.

That old box pretty much just sits on a shelf unused, I only use it for occasional testing.
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#266 Post by starhawk »

James, if you look up two posts... it's the BusyBox GUI that's the problem. If I'm understanding goingnuts correctly, it has to have some stuff in the initrd.gz file pretty early in the boot process, and that particular version of BusyBox was compiled for PII and newer (i686 and up). All the other stuff probably is as well, so that K6-II box of yours probably can go back on the shelf for now.
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#267 Post by goingnuts »

BB is compiled static using ulibc - i686 as default. And so are other of the static builds in 041210-version. Even though qemu is able to simulate different cpu´s (486, pentium, pentium2, pentium3) [using the -cpu switch] it does not catch the K6-problem. 041210 starts OK simulating i586. Guess its Intel-processor style and not AMD-style. It will take some time to rebuild everything - but might be fun - and maybe binaries is smaller compiling for i386....
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#268 Post by Keef »

I've been trying the latest on my 'new' Armada M700 - 450mhz P3.
Unfortunately it hangs on shutdown when it gets to closing PCMCIA services. Tried it with a frugal install and from CD. However it does shutdown cleanly under qemu.
For reference I have tried an earlier version (23/05/10) and it does not have the same problem.
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#269 Post by goingnuts »

Keef: Thanks for testing! I will look at that - probably missing pccardctl for eject to work...Attached a static build of it.
Update 30.01.11: Now I have had a chance to verify that shutdown works again with pccardctl installed (and do not if missing). So turned it into a "service pack" - nice word for bugfix...
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#270 Post by sc0ttman »

Sorry if this it totally irrelevant - I scanned the recent threads and think I saw something about AMD processor problems....

I got PupnGo to boot with no problems on my AMD sempron desktop PC.
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#271 Post by goingnuts »

sc0ttman: Thanks for testing! My main box is a AMD Athlon 64 - also works ok. Guess it is related to AMD K6...
I have thrown out all my 486 some years ago - now I miss just one of them to test if pUPnGO actually would run on them - as the static compiled bins mentioned above should have been for i386 but just don't work on K6...
I might get my hands on this beast next week - although not a 486 - it will be fun to test how pUPnGO performs on a 15 year old gadget.
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#272 Post by starhawk »

One more request -- autodetect USB drives. My K6 board is new enough to have 2 USB ports...
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#273 Post by technosaurus »

Puplite is loosely based on the pupngo scripts and I think it does autodetect usb drives now.
Check out my [url=https://github.com/technosaurus]github repositories[/url]. I may eventually get around to updating my [url=http://bashismal.blogspot.com]blogspot[/url].
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#274 Post by starhawk »

Oh, sorry -- I had to use v200810 to get it to boot on my K6 box, and that does /not/ automount USB.
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#275 Post by taca0 »

I download the last version and start and stays in Booting kernel... and nothing more !! What can I do?? I used the version pupngo200810fulldrv.iso and boots without problems fast!. So...
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#276 Post by starhawk »

What are the specs of your system?
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#277 Post by taca0 »

its an old laptop JETBOOK with AMD 400 K2 with 32 mb memory .
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#278 Post by starhawk »

I assume you mean a K6-2 CPU, which is still a 586 CPU, i.e. the same internal design (more or less) as an original Pentium (and, for that matter, almost identical to an original K6, only faster).

You're not going to be able to load the current version because of a problem with the window manager, BusyBox, being incompatible with anything older than a 686 CPU (a generation /newer/ than the version you've got).

Goingnuts is re-working all of the programs within pUPnGO to make them work with 586 CPUs. Best hang tight till he's done.
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#279 Post by goingnuts »

Confirmed Keefs findings with shutdown problems when pcmcia loaded - thanks Keef! Solution here.
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#280 Post by Keef »

Don't thank me yet!
I'm afraid this didn't work for me, still hanging during shutdown. I've tried with and without anything in the PCMCIA slots but no joy.
I've had mixed results with Puplets recognising a CF card in an adapter - but the one that does it faultlessly is 412!

Armada M700
Intel PIII 450 mhz
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