Grub4DosConfig

Miscellaneous tools
Message
Author
nooby
Posts: 10369
Joined: Sun 29 Jun 2008, 19:05
Location: SwedenEurope

#226 Post by nooby »

BigPup, my text was misleading you.

It boots but goes into kernel panic something.

it always when I activate debug stop at

b43-pci-bridge ... IRQ 16 then a blinking cursor

Karl Godt in a thread suggested this:
It might be a problem if a driver is two times available ( b43legacy. ), but I am not sure about that.
Which rhymes with that some say that one should "REMOVING SSB and blacklisting the stock b43 wireless driver."

Jemimah must have set things up differently in her Fluppy because that one never goes into panic.

Insidious Puppy seems to always work too. But it would be cool to have all puppies boot.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

User avatar
bigpup
Posts: 13886
Joined: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 18:15
Location: S.C. USA

#227 Post by bigpup »

As for the Mint i am not sure but i remember i got success with the menu.lst entry produced by the grub4dosconfig-1.5.3 and later.
Sorry, did not mean to make you think there was a problem. I was just using as an example of something I had to do in the past. Latest Grub4dos no problem.

User avatar
sasaqqdan
Posts: 39
Joined: Fri 06 Jun 2008, 13:56
Location: China,Zhejiang,Hangzhou
Contact:

#228 Post by sasaqqdan »

Code: Select all

_Comfirm=$(gettext "Comfirmation")
Comfirmation should be Confirmation

Chinese support:
Attachments
grub4dosconfig-zh_CN.zip
Chinese support for grub4dosconfig v1.6.3: /usr/share/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/grub4dosconfig.mo
(3.62 KiB) Downloaded 514 times
Last edited by sasaqqdan on Fri 31 Dec 2010, 10:00, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
shinobar
Posts: 2672
Joined: Thu 28 May 2009, 09:26
Location: Japan
Contact:

Recent Grub4DosConfig uses gettext

#229 Post by shinobar »

sasaqqdan wrote:Chinese support:
Thanks sasa, but isn't it outdated?
Grub4DosConfig 1.6.x uses gettext instead of simple localization.
You can find '/usr/share/doc/nls/grub4dosconfig/grub4dosconfig.pot' in the package, grub4dos-0.4.4.v1.6.3.pet .
Downloads for Puppy Linux [url]http://shino.pos.to/linux/downloads.html[/url]

User avatar
sasaqqdan
Posts: 39
Joined: Fri 06 Jun 2008, 13:56
Location: China,Zhejiang,Hangzhou
Contact:

Re: Recent Grub4DosConfig uses gettext

#230 Post by sasaqqdan »

shinobar wrote:
sasaqqdan wrote:Chinese support:
Thanks sasa, but isn't it outdated?
Grub4DosConfig 1.6.x uses gettext instead of simple localization.
You can find '/usr/share/doc/nls/grub4dosconfig/grub4dosconfig.pot' in the package, grub4dos-0.4.4.v1.6.3.pet .
thanks,shinobar.I don't understand the word"Comfirmation".

Stripe
Posts: 658
Joined: Wed 23 Jun 2010, 05:18
Location: In a field. England

#231 Post by Stripe »

Hi shinobar

I am still working on a usb based system (in slackpup) and was thinking what was the easiest/simplest way to make a frugal install work when extracted from a package to a usb stick. I was wanting to use an ext file system so the boot to usb is out. Obviously with the way grub4dos is working I thought of you.

Do you think it would be possible to modify grub4dos to make it Independent so if it was placed with a frugal install on a usb stick, when run it would automatically detect the puppy, make the usb boot-able and produce the menu? or even just make the usb boot-able so the puppy would run?

Sorry for being a nuisance

Stripe

User avatar
shinobar
Posts: 2672
Joined: Thu 28 May 2009, 09:26
Location: Japan
Contact:

rugal install on a usb stick

#232 Post by shinobar »

Stripe wrote:Do you think it would be possible to modify grub4dos to make it Independent so if it was placed with a frugal install on a usb stick, when run it would automatically detect the puppy, make the usb boot-able and produce the menu? or even just make the usb boot-able so the puppy would run?
Do you mean this?
Attachments
grub4dos_usb.png
(4.34 KiB) Downloaded 1152 times
Downloads for Puppy Linux [url]http://shino.pos.to/linux/downloads.html[/url]

Stripe
Posts: 658
Joined: Wed 23 Jun 2010, 05:18
Location: In a field. England

#233 Post by Stripe »

Sorry shinobar if I was not clear

what I was thinking was a static version that could be packaged with the vmlniuz, intrid.gz and the pup-xxx-sfs in a tgz

so that when the package was unpacked on the usb stick, you would just click on the grub4dos and it would automaticaly install on that usb stick making the puppy able to run on that usb stick

Hope I explained it better this time

Thanks
Stripe

User avatar
shinobar
Posts: 2672
Joined: Thu 28 May 2009, 09:26
Location: Japan
Contact:

Automatic usb installer

#234 Post by shinobar »

Stripe wrote:what I was thinking was a static version that could be packaged with the vmlniuz, intrid.gz and the pup-xxx-sfs in a tgz

so that when the package was unpacked on the usb stick, you would just click on the grub4dos and it would automaticaly install on that usb stick making the puppy able to run on that usb stick
Sounds interesting.
I don't know the detail but the puppeee by jemimah has some installer...

Well, you mean it works on Puppy?
Maybe i don't clealy understand your idea.
Downloads for Puppy Linux [url]http://shino.pos.to/linux/downloads.html[/url]

Stripe
Posts: 658
Joined: Wed 23 Jun 2010, 05:18
Location: In a field. England

#235 Post by Stripe »

Thanks Shinobar

I will go and check that out, I just thought if we could give people a simple option of downloading a usb image as well as an iso. It would broaden the appeal of puppy

Thanks again

Stripe

gcmartin

Boot a LiveCD from Grub menu

#236 Post by gcmartin »

@Shinobar
This appears to add a feature where a CD can be booted from GRUB.

I haven't tried this: but
  • Would this work for GRUB4DOS?
  • Would this provide an ability to select and boot a CD on bios-PCs that won't boot from CD?
  • Do you have a similar procedure somewhere that's an example of booting a LiveCD thru Grub4DOS?
Thanks in advance
P.S. Here's another discussion you may find of interest.

P.S. I run a LiveCD environment on PCs that have 2 CD/DVD drives and diskette readers if theres concern on what types of PCs I use.

User avatar
shinobar
Posts: 2672
Joined: Thu 28 May 2009, 09:26
Location: Japan
Contact:

Re: Boot a LiveCD from Grub menu

#237 Post by shinobar »

Thanks for the information, gcmartin.
Me too havn't tried, but form the liteature, the Grub4Dos can boot some kind of .iso files but does not work with Puppy i guess.
It is somewhat simmilar with PXE boot.
We can boot Puppy with this method if we make the initrd.gz contains the main sfs.

P.S.
There is the UNetBootin for the PC without CD.
Unfortunately, most recent Lupu-520 and Wary/Quirky fails unless manually editing the syslinux.cfg file.
Downloads for Puppy Linux [url]http://shino.pos.to/linux/downloads.html[/url]

nooby
Posts: 10369
Joined: Sun 29 Jun 2008, 19:05
Location: SwedenEurope

#238 Post by nooby »

One can boot but can one save things? Puppy though can not do iso boot.

Slitaz can be iso booted.

They had a thread on ubuntu forums a guys that listed how he made an USB mem stick do to iso boots of many OS. But very few seemed to be interested in it.

I was but I am a propeller head so I an too confused to grasp what is going on. But I did manage to boot a few too so even on my level if one follow instructions it can work. But that is for USB it does not work for frugal iso booting unless the OS is set up that way by the developer to allow it.

But from CD/DVD most likely it would work. The USB iso boot is trying to emulate a CD boot so CD should work even better.

The reason Puppy fail to do iso boot is explained by Shinobar above.

the sfs file is separate. On other OS they have it in two files or one file and that make them available for iso boot but then they can only save on nother partition or on a special "casper" file or a special save file for that OS.

But I know too little but wanted to do it too. I have the motivation bit not the means.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

User avatar
shinobar
Posts: 2672
Joined: Thu 28 May 2009, 09:26
Location: Japan
Contact:

v1.6.9 test release

#239 Post by shinobar »

Now available the test release which supports Partition Boot Sector(PBS) install and Reiserfs(limited support).

grub4dos-0.4.4.v1.6.9.pet (Update: 16 Jan 2011) Download from here
See the document for the detail.

Testing and feed back are welcomed.
Downloads for Puppy Linux [url]http://shino.pos.to/linux/downloads.html[/url]

User avatar
bigpup
Posts: 13886
Joined: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 18:15
Location: S.C. USA

#240 Post by bigpup »

To boot a CD with Grub4dos add this entry to the menu.lst.

title Boot CD-ROM - (cd0)
cdrom --init
map --hook
chainloader (cd0)
rootnoverify (cd0)

Insert the CD after the boot menu comes up. Make sure to move off of the first menu choice so that does not get booted while you insert the CD.
Worked for me.

From info in the Grub4dos guide.
http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/boot.htm#cd

User avatar
shinobar
Posts: 2672
Joined: Thu 28 May 2009, 09:26
Location: Japan
Contact:

Boot CD from grub4dos on HDD

#241 Post by shinobar »

bigpup wrote:title Boot CD-ROM - (cd0)
cdrom --init
map --hook
chainloader (cd0)
rootnoverify (cd0)
Thanks bigpup for the interesting information.
It may depend on the hardware/BIOS.
As for my PC, it doesn't work. The grub4dos seems not recognize the device 'cd0'.
It's strange while my PC/BIOS can boot the cd... :?:
Downloads for Puppy Linux [url]http://shino.pos.to/linux/downloads.html[/url]

User avatar
bigpup
Posts: 13886
Joined: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 18:15
Location: S.C. USA

#242 Post by bigpup »

Did you give the CD drive a little time to spin up after you inserted the CD?

The Grub4dos guide has other options to try.
http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/boot.htm#cd

User avatar
shinobar
Posts: 2672
Joined: Thu 28 May 2009, 09:26
Location: Japan
Contact:

Re: Boot CD from grub4dos on HDD

#243 Post by shinobar »

My cd has serial ata interface, that is the reason grub4dos cannot recognize it as cd0 i guess.
Of course it may also depend on the BIOS.
Downloads for Puppy Linux [url]http://shino.pos.to/linux/downloads.html[/url]

yordanj94
Posts: 78
Joined: Thu 16 Sep 2010, 15:40
Location: Bulgaria

floppy disc

#244 Post by yordanj94 »

Hi Shinobar.
Today i installed the last unstable version and tried to install on floppy disc .
I couldn't and got this massage :

/usr/sbin/grub4dosconfig
version 1.6d9
Tue Jan 18 14:28:28 UTC 2011
BINSTALLER=bootlace.com
sda(MBR)_41.1GB_ATA_ExcelStor_Techno
fd0_(FLOPPY_DISK)
sdb_1.9GB_Corsair_Flash_Voyager_
sda1/lucid/lupq-511.sfs|lupq_511
sda1/wary/wary_500.sfs|wary_500
sda4/boot/vmlinuz|Wary_Puppy_500

sdb1|Unknown

mkfs.msdos 3.0.7 (24 Dec 2009)
Wrigting... /mnt/fd0/menu.lst
Failed to make 'menu.lst'.
Installing bootloader on floppy...


Error: Invalid option.



BOOTLACE writes GRLDR BOOT RECORD to MBR or to the boot area of a file system.

Usage: bootlace.com [OPTIONS] DEVICE_OR_FILE

Options: --read-only, --floppy[=N], --boot-prevmbr-first, --boot-prevmbr-last,

--no-backup-mbr, --force-backup-mbr, --mbr-enable-floppy, --mbr-disable-floppy,

--mbr-enable-osbr, --mbr-disable-osbr, --duce, --time-out=T, --hot-key=K,

--preferred-drive=D, --preferred-partition=P, --sectors-per-track=S, --heads=H,

--start-sector=B, --total-sectors=C, --install-partition=I, --lba, --chs,

--fat12, --fat16, --fat32, --vfat, --ntfs, --ext2, --serial-number=SN,

--restore-mbr, --mbr-no-bpb, --chs-no-tune

DEVICE_OR_FILE: Filename of the device or image. For DOS, a BIOS drive number

(in hex 0xHH or decimal DDD format)can be used to access the drive.

Failed to install bootlace.com.
[quote][/quote]

User avatar
shinobar
Posts: 2672
Joined: Thu 28 May 2009, 09:26
Location: Japan
Contact:

Re: floppy disc (v1.6.9)

#245 Post by shinobar »

Thanks, yordanj94. Confirmed.
There is a typo in /usr/sbin/grub4dosconfig at line 1495(number of hyphen'-' should both be 2).
Wrong:

Code: Select all

   OPT="---floppy -chs"
Correct:
OPT="--floppy --chs"
Another issue on floppy install: The grub4doscpnfig 1.6.9 gives warning that the MBR is not botable for the floppy install. Ignore the warning please.

Sorry for your inconvenience.
Downloads for Puppy Linux [url]http://shino.pos.to/linux/downloads.html[/url]

Post Reply