Quirky 006 feedback

[adi]

From desktop I used menu/setup/mouse/keyboard wizard and then "Advanced Xorg keyboard configuration" and it worked. Now all files are as shown in your post. Thanks! Hope to work from boot in Quirky 007.

[01micko]

Sorry, I forgot to tell you that when I got Mplayer working, PupRadio now works. In PupRadio, under preferred player, Mplayer is the only thing that you can select.

Hello bigpup

In pupRadio there is a mechanism to detect what compatible players are on on your system. If there is only mplayer then that is all that will be in choices. In standard Puppy it is gxine, but many install mplayer or xine, so if either or both of those are installed then they show up in the pupRadio prefered player list. It is a feature. I could make it automatic and just use the default but I like the idea of the choice.

Cheers.

[bigpup]

01micko wrote:

In pupRadio there is a mechanism to detect what compatible players are on on your system. If there is only mplayer then that is all that will be in choices. In standard Puppy it is gxine, but many install mplayer or xine, so if either or both of those are installed then they show up in the pupRadio prefered player list. It is a feature. I could make it automatic and just use the default but I like the idea of the choice.

Please keep the prefered player feature in PupRadio. It is one of the many good features. Quirky 006 only has Gnome-Mplayer and that is the only choice that you have for PupRadio. I was letting Barry know, that because Mplayer was not working for me, it made PupRadio not work.

This would be good info in PupRadio help.
I'm a bigpup, not a bigdog, so any info is good info!

[josephdowdy]

I'm totally new to Puppy, so give me a break if I'm not really helping here...

1. t2-8.0rc-official bug?

I opened the Puppy Package Mgr and tried to add t2-8.0rc-official, closed the app, reopened it and tried to download updates and it crashed. I reopened and tried it again and it crashed again.

So, I rebooted, didn't save any changes to the OS and tried it again and was able to reproduce the prob.

2. VirtualBox is unavailable in any of the repositories. Can you bring back the Karmic Universal source?

3. I installed FireFox but it doesn't appear on the menu. I did run the fixmenus command from the command line and it ran, but still no FF. I will reboot and if it appears, I will update this post. (I was able to execute FireFox from the prompt.

[BarryK]

01micko wrote:

In pupRadio there is a mechanism to detect what compatible players are on on your system. If there is only mplayer then that is all that will be in choices. In standard Puppy it is gxine, but many install mplayer or xine, so if either or both of those are installed then they show up in the pupRadio prefered player list. It is a feature. I could make it automatic and just use the default but I like the idea of the choice.

Please keep the prefered player feature in PupRadio. It is one of the many good features. Quirky 006 only has Gnome-Mplayer and that is the only choice that you have for PupRadio. I was letting Barry know, that because Mplayer was not working for me, it made PupRadio not work.

This would be good info in PupRadio help.
I'm a bigpup, not a bigdog, so any info is good info!

bigpup,
mplayer seems to be confused about the audio. Gnome-mplayer is only a GUI for mplayer, and you can fix it by specifically choosing 'oss' audio in the Preferences.

Ditto, pupRadio could do that, but better yet, in Q007 the mplayer executable will be alsa-enabled, which should fix your problem for both Gnome-mplayer and mplayer.

As to whether 01micko offers Gnome-mplayer as a player option, that depends on what he wants, a bare window (mplayer) only, or the full-blown GUI of Gnome-mplayer.

[BarryK]

I'm totally new to Puppy, so give me a break if I'm not really helping here...

1. t2-8.0rc-official bug?

I opened the Puppy Package Mgr and tried to add t2-8.0rc-official, closed the app, reopened it and tried to download updates and it crashed. I reopened and tried it again and it crashed again.

So, I rebooted, didn't save any changes to the OS and tried it again and was able to reproduce the prob.

2. VirtualBox is unavailable in any of the repositories. Can you bring back the Karmic Universal source?

3. I installed FireFox but it doesn't appear on the menu. I did run the fixmenus command from the command line and it ran, but still no FF. I will reboot and if it appears, I will update this post. (I was able to execute FireFox from the prompt.

1.
I don't know why it crashed, but the exercise itself was pointless as you are using the very latest Quirky and the repo database is already the latest.

2.
This is not Upup, it is Quirky. It has different package repositories.

3.
Firefox, from where? Using the Puppy Package Manager?

[josephdowdy]

1. OK. Not sure what you mean, but OK.

2. OK

3. Yes. Thought this would be worth mentioning.

[01micko]

I added support for Gnome-Mplayer to pupRadio. It will default to mplayer but once you choose gnome-mplayer in the list down bottom your choice will be remembered.

So now there is a choice in Quirky

It may or may not work perfectly so needs testing.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=50016

Get the 0.5.3 version and report on the pupRadio thread.

Have fun testing!

[pakt]

Choosing "sv-latin1" for the Swedish keyboard works in quirky-006. Thanks.

Unfortunately a new bug has crept in. Choosing "se" from the keyboard list now inserts "us" in xorg.conf.

The bug is in xorgwizard where XKEYMAP is set (around line 61). There is no case statement for "se", so XKEYMAP is set to "us".

Regarding the above bug, I suggest that you simply change "sv" to "se" as the choice for "Sweden" and remove "sv" from the other scripts. I don't think this will cause a problem as I didn't find a reference to the "sv" xkeymap on the net.

I found this link http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/Localization which shows the following choices for the Swedish keyboard:

<country domain="SE">
<name>Sweden</name>
<time_zone>Europe/Stockholm</time_zone>
<language>Swedish</language>
<lang>sv_SE</lang>
<encoding type="latin1"/>
<keymap>sv-latin1</keymap>
<xkeymap>se</xkeymap>
</country>

In other words, the "se" xkeymap corresponds to "sv-latin1". No "sv" xkeymap is mentioned.

[BarryK]

Choosing "sv-latin1" for the Swedish keyboard works in quirky-006. Thanks.

Unfortunately a new bug has crept in. Choosing "se" from the keyboard list now inserts "us" in xorg.conf.

The bug is in xorgwizard where XKEYMAP is set (around line 61). There is no case statement for "se", so XKEYMAP is set to "us".

Regarding the above bug, I suggest that you simply change "sv" to "se" as the choice for "Sweden" and remove "sv" from the other scripts. I don't think this will cause a problem as I didn't find a reference to the "sv" xkeymap on the net.

I found this link http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/Localization which shows the following choices for the Swedish keyboard:

<country domain="SE">
<name>Sweden</name>
<time_zone>Europe/Stockholm</time_zone>
<language>Swedish</language>
<lang>sv_SE</lang>
<encoding type="latin1"/>
<keymap>sv-latin1</keymap>
<xkeymap>se</xkeymap>
</country>

In other words, the "se" xkeymap corresponds to "sv-latin1". No "sv" xkeymap is mentioned.

Did you apply the fixed 'xwin' that I posted earlier in this thread?

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 6&start=15

[ttuuxxx]

Hi Barry still have the black backgrounds on the menu/taskbar icons
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[ttuuxxx]

GnomeMplayer plays flv videos way better than gxine in 4.3.1.
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[bigpup]

Barry,

info on how the new pupRadio works in Quirky 006

PupRadio 0.5.3 for Quirky

In Quirky 006:
Updated to PupRadio 0.5.3

In prefered player selected Gnome-Mplayer.
Seems to work ok for radio and telly video.

In radio, it looks like you are just using two different GUI's to play the sound. Gnome-Mplayer is a GUI for mplayer and so is PupRadio.

In Puptelly, using Gnome-Mplayer gives you much more control and options for the video.

Issue with Gnome-Mplayer:
It had to load a cache before the radio would play.
When it starts, the volume is set to off and has to be increased with the volume control.


I like what Gnome-Mplayer gives you for options in Puptelly.

[magerlab]

i can not open meebo.com in seamonkey - only blue background and no login dialog

( works in midori or opera)

[pakt]

Did you apply the fixed 'xwin' that I posted earlier in this thread?

Choosing "se" works after applying your 'xwin' fix.

Seems like I'm getting too old and thick for this troubleshooting business...

However, disregarding that, dare I mention that X refuses to start in quirky006 on two of my PCs that have nVidia graphics, regardless of which resolution I try?

I have to edit xorg.conf from the cli and change 'nv' to 'vesa' for X to start.

xerror.log mentions:
(EE) Failed to load module "xtrap" (doesn't exist)
(EE) No devices found

[ttuuxxx]

libjpeg.so.7.0.0 is not compatible with libjpeg.so.62.0.0, even with the system link you made, When I went to run my old reliable gimp from series 4, that works on series 3, and a couple of for series 2 a message came on the screen, something like error loading libjpeg.so.62.0.0 called for libjpeg.so.62.0.0 and received libjpeg.so.7.0.0
so I took libjpeg.so.62.0.0 from a older version and then it worked fine
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[BarryK]

However, disregarding that, dare I mention that X refuses to start in quirky006 on two of my PCs that have nVidia graphics, regardless of which resolution I try?

I have to edit xorg.conf from the cli and change 'nv' to 'vesa' for X to start.

Yes, you are not alone, Lobster and ttuuxxx have to use vesa.

You shouldn't have to manually edit xorg.conf though. When you run the Xorg Wizard, if the test fails using 'nv', there is a window that offers for you to switch to 'nouveau' or 'vesa'.

Well, noone is having any luck with nouveau, but I do hope that situation will improve when the 2.6.33 kernel is released.

[BarryK]

libjpeg.so.7.0.0 is not compatible with libjpeg.so.62.0.0, even with the system link you made, When I went to run my old reliable gimp from series 4, that works on series 3, and a couple of for series 2 a message came on the screen, something like error loading libjpeg.so.62.0.0 called for libjpeg.so.62.0.0 and received libjpeg.so.7.0.0
so I took libjpeg.so.62.0.0 from a older version and then it worked fine
ttuuxxx

Yes, I want Quirky to be able to run Puppy4 packages, so I have added the old libjpeg package (and removed that incorrect symlink).

Thanks for letting me know about that. I would like to know of Puppy4 packages that don't work. I have found one, Picpuz, the pieces of the puzzle can't be dragged -- maybe it just needs to be updated.

[Lobster]

Yes, you are not alone, Lobster and ttuuxxx have to use vesa.

not only do I have to use vesa but the colour becomes
bleached out if I leave the computer and the screensaver kicks in
[shudder] Too 'orrible to use
Tried 006 briefly and the nv and drivers again but will await new kernel
with hope.

[ttuuxxx]

Hi Barry anyway we could get rid of pwsget and replace it with Uget, The reason why is that Uget does all the functions of pwsget, plus it has other features like pause/resume, It also will continue failed downloads and keep retrying, It can use proxy's also which is good for firewalled countries, also there is a Seamonkey plugin called Flashgot, which can integrate it, and from the download list you can select Uget or Axel, which is nice and handy Plus flashgot is good for downloading embedded videos. The Flashgot Seamonkey plugin is located at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/220 and below is the Uget package. The Uget package is already stripped, I system linked the sound files to default 2barks, I system linked all 5 images to one 24x24 icon. Really I don't think it can get any smaller
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