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PostPosted: Sun 15 Jan 2017, 22:45    Post subject:  

It's not responding & it's late so I'll shut down & try again in the morning before I head into work for a few hours.

There's a simple program that does what I want in our son's Microsoft version of windows, so I'd be shocked if the same was not available for the superior Linux version of windows.

We'll see ...

Thanks - David

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Jan 2017, 22:56    Post subject:  

I'd be very interested in learning more about that program.
Or are you just talking about "aero snap" - i.e. drag a window to one side of the monitor and it will resize it to fill that half of the screen?
In the list of possible solutions in my first post that is what I was talking about with options 2 and 3 - some window managers have this feature built in, or you can run opensnap to provide it.

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan 2017, 17:29    Post subject:  

disciple wrote:
I'd be very interested in learning more about that program.
Or are you just talking about "aero snap" - i.e. drag a window to one side of the monitor and it will resize it to fill that half of the screen?
In the list of possible solutions in my first post that is what I was talking about with options 2 and 3 - some window managers have this feature built in, or you can run opensnap to provide it.


It's called "Screen+"

It comes on the disc included with the AOC monitor but is for MS versions of windows.

I may be able to zip and send it to you if you'd like to see if it could be posted to Linux.

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan 2017, 18:46    Post subject:  

Don't worry about zipping it - I've actually just found it online, but I only have immediate access to Windows 10, on which it won't run, so I watched a demo on youtube instead.
Essentially it enables tiling window management on Windows, with a gui to easily change the layout on the fly.

If using opensnap and/or shortcut keys like mine isn't good enough for you then you'll need to find a tiling window manager that you like. There are loads of tiling window managers for linux, and unfortunately I can't recommend any in particular as once I had those shortcut keys I was happy and stopped looking into them.

FWIW I know the minimum features I would like in a tiling window manager, and I know that they aren't always all supported:
- not tiling by default.
- an easy gui to change the layout on the fly! When I was first looking this seemed quite rare. I know Bluetile (which is really Xmonad underneath) provides this, but surely there must be others... (there are a couple of tiling extensions for Gnome Shell which I guess would do it, but I wouldn't want to run Gnome Shell).
- "normal" window decorations and display of program icons in the title bar.
- easy to install and setup
- supporting/not interfering with normal shortcut keys.
When I was first looking, I was looking for an integrated panel, with support for standard tray icons, start menu built from .desktop files, etc. A lot of window managers don't include a panel, so I should really just have looked for something that would play nicely with lxpanel.

BTW X-tile is another separate program that provides tiling, but its approach looks a bit unwieldy to me.

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan 2017, 19:01    Post subject:  

disciple wrote:
- an easy gui to change the layout on the fly! When I was first looking this seemed quite rare. I know Bluetile (which is really Xmonad underneath) provides this, but surely there must be others...

Apparently dwm allows you to change layout via a tray icon, so I should probably try it sometime, and maybe spectrewm.
I was planning to try bspwm, but I can't really remember why.

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan 2017, 23:13    Post subject:  

Count me overloaded ... you are swimming in the deep-end of app/program/scripts & I am dangling my toes in the far-end of that pool.

As things are my time is so overwhelmed with work, dealing with 3 teen/college children, trying to replace a vehicle destroyed by a careless-deer, home/property management, Amateur Radio, church, etc. that I can't immerse the way I used to in all of this.

It seems that Terminal is not responding. I just noticed that the devx .SFS was not set to load at boot - so just did that. I'll reboot and see if things are working then. (Can't wait to get my new PC running so I can set everything up fresh & clean.)

Meanwhile, here is what's in my rc.xml - can you spot any errors?

Thanks! David

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!-- Do not edit this file, it will be overwritten on install.
        Copy the file to $HOME/.config/openbox/ instead. -->
<openbox_config xmlns="http://openbox.org/3.4/rc">
  <resistance>
    <strength>10</strength>
    <screen_edge_strength>20</screen_edge_strength>
  </resistance>
  <focus>
    <focusNew>yes</focusNew>
    <!-- always try to focus new windows when they appear. other rules do
       apply -->
    <followMouse>yes</followMouse>
    <!-- move focus to a window when you move the mouse into it -->
    <focusLast>yes</focusLast>
    <!-- focus the last used window when changing desktops, instead of the one
       under the mouse pointer. when followMouse is enabled -->
    <underMouse>no</underMouse>
    <!-- move focus under the mouse, even when the mouse is not moving -->
    <focusDelay>700</focusDelay>
    <!-- when followMouse is enabled, the mouse must be inside the window for
       this many milliseconds (1000 = 1 sec) before moving focus to it -->
    <raiseOnFocus>yes</raiseOnFocus>
    <!-- when followMouse is enabled, and a window is given focus by moving the
       mouse into it, also raise the window -->
  </focus>
  <placement>
    <policy>Smart</policy>
    <!-- 'Smart' or 'UnderMouse' -->
    <center>no</center>
    <!-- whether to place windows in the center of the free area found or
       the top left corner -->
    <monitor>Any</monitor>
    <primaryMonitor>1</primaryMonitor>
  </placement>
  <theme>
    <name>Mikachu-LHP</name>
    <titleLayout>CMILSN</titleLayout>
    <!--
      avaible characters are NDSLIMC, each can occur at most once.
      N: window icon
      L: window label (AKA title).
      I: iconify
      M: maximize
      C: close
      S: shade (roll up/down)
      D: omnipresent (on all desktops).
  -->
    <keepBorder>yes</keepBorder>
    <animateIconify>yes</animateIconify>
    <font place="ActiveWindow">
      <name>Luxi Sans</name>
      <size>10</size>
      <!-- font size in points -->
      <weight>Normal</weight>
      <!-- 'bold' or 'normal' -->
      <slant>Normal</slant>
      <!-- 'italic' or 'normal' -->
    </font>
    <font place="InactiveWindow">
      <name>Luxi Sans</name>
      <size>10</size>
      <!-- font size in points -->
      <weight>Normal</weight>
      <!-- 'bold' or 'normal' -->
      <slant>Normal</slant>
      <!-- 'italic' or 'normal' -->
    </font>
    <font place="MenuHeader">
      <name>Luxi Sans</name>
      <size>10</size>
      <!-- font size in points -->
      <weight>Normal</weight>
      <!-- 'bold' or 'normal' -->
      <slant>Normal</slant>
      <!-- 'italic' or 'normal' -->
    </font>
    <font place="MenuItem">
      <name>Luxi Sans</name>
      <size>10</size>
      <!-- font size in points -->
      <weight>Normal</weight>
      <!-- 'bold' or 'normal' -->
      <slant>Normal</slant>
      <!-- 'italic' or 'normal' -->
    </font>
    <font place="ActiveOnScreenDisplay">
      <name/>
    </font>
    <font place="InactiveOnScreenDisplay">
      <name>Sans</name>
      <size>8</size>
      <weight/>
      <slant/>
    </font>
  </theme>
  <desktops>
    <!-- this stuff is only used at startup, pagers allow you to change them
       during a session

       these are default values to use when other ones are not already set
       by other applications, or saved in your session

       use obconf if you want to change these without having to log out
       and back in -->
    <number>2</number>
    <firstdesk>1</firstdesk>
    <names>
      <!-- set names up here if you want to, like this:
    <name>desktop 1</name>
    <name>desktop 2</name>
    -->
    </names>
    <popupTime>875</popupTime>
    <!-- The number of milliseconds to show the popup for when switching
       desktops.  Set this to 0 to disable the popup. -->
  </desktops>
  <resize>
    <drawContents>yes</drawContents>
    <popupShow>Always</popupShow>
    <!-- 'Always', 'Never', or 'Nonpixel' (xterms and such) -->
    <popupPosition>Center</popupPosition>
    <!-- 'Center' or 'Top' -->
    <popupFixedPosition>
      <x>0</x>
      <y>0</y>
    </popupFixedPosition>
  </resize>
  <!-- You can reserve a portion of your screen where windows will not cover when
     they are maximized, or when they are initially placed.
     Many programs reserve space automatically, but you can use this in other
     cases. -->
  <margins>
    <top>0</top>
    <bottom>0</bottom>
    <left>0</left>
    <right>0</right>
  </margins>
  <dock>
    <position>TopLeft</position>
    <!-- (Top|Bottom)(Left|Right|)|Top|Bottom|Left|Right|Floating -->
    <floatingX>0</floatingX>
    <floatingY>0</floatingY>
    <noStrut>yes</noStrut>
    <stacking>Above</stacking>
    <!-- 'Above', 'Normal', or 'Below' -->
    <direction>Vertical</direction>
    <!-- 'Vertical' or 'Horizontal' -->
    <autoHide>no</autoHide>
    <hideDelay>300</hideDelay>
    <!-- in milliseconds (1000 = 1 second) -->
    <showDelay>300</showDelay>
    <!-- in milliseconds (1000 = 1 second) -->
    <moveButton>Middle</moveButton>
    <!-- 'Left', 'Middle', 'Right' -->
  </dock>
  <keyboard>
    <chainQuitKey>C-g</chainQuitKey>
    <!-- Keybindings for desktop switching -->
    <keybind key="C-A-Left">
      <action name="DesktopLeft">
        <dialog>no</dialog>
        <wrap>no</wrap>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="C-A-Right">
      <action name="DesktopRight">
        <dialog>no</dialog>
        <wrap>no</wrap>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="C-A-Up">
      <action name="DesktopUp">
        <dialog>no</dialog>
        <wrap>no</wrap>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="C-A-Down">
      <action name="DesktopDown">
        <dialog>no</dialog>
        <wrap>no</wrap>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="S-A-Left">
      <action name="SendToDesktopLeft">
        <dialog>no</dialog>
        <wrap>no</wrap>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="S-A-Right">
      <action name="SendToDesktopRight">
        <dialog>no</dialog>
        <wrap>no</wrap>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="S-A-Up">
      <action name="SendToDesktopUp">
        <dialog>no</dialog>
        <wrap>no</wrap>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="S-A-Down">
      <action name="SendToDesktopDown">
        <dialog>no</dialog>
        <wrap>no</wrap>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="W-F1">
      <action name="Desktop">
        <desktop>1</desktop>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="W-F2">
      <action name="Desktop">
        <desktop>2</desktop>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="W-F3">
      <action name="Desktop">
        <desktop>3</desktop>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="W-F4">
      <action name="Desktop">
        <desktop>4</desktop>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="W-d">
      <action name="ToggleShowDesktop"/>
    </keybind>
    <!-- Keybindings for windows -->
    <keybind key="A-F4">
      <action name="Close"/>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="A-Escape">
      <action name="Lower"/>
      <action name="FocusToBottom"/>
      <action name="Unfocus"/>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="A-space">
      <action name="ShowMenu">
        <menu>client-menu</menu>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <!-- Keybindings for window switching -->
    <keybind key="A-Tab">
      <action name="NextWindow"/>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="A-S-Tab">
      <action name="PreviousWindow"/>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="C-A-Tab">
      <action name="NextWindow">
        <panels>yes</panels>
        <desktop>yes</desktop>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <!-- Keybindings for running applications -->
    <keybind key="C-S-c">
      <action name="Execute">
        <command>PupControl run</command>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="C-S-x">
      <action name="Execute">
        <command>PupShutdown run</command>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="C-S-m">
      <action name="Execute">
        <command>mtpaint -s</command>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="W-e">
      <action name="Execute">
        <startupnotify>
          <enabled>true</enabled>
          <name>File Manager</name>
        </startupnotify>
        <command>defaultfilemanager</command>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <!--keybindings for LXPanel -->
    <keybind key="W-r">
      <action name="Execute">
        <command>lxpanelctl run</command>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="A-F2">
      <action name="Execute">
        <command>lxpanelctl run</command>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="C-Escape">
      <action name="Execute">
        <command>lxpanelctl menu</command>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="F11">
      <action name="ToggleFullscreen"/>
    </keybind>
  </keyboard>
  <!-- Tiling & Maximise/Restore with the numberpad -->
    <keybind key="W-KP_8">
      <action name="UnmaximizeVert"/>
      <action name="MaximizeHorz"/>
      <action name="MoveResizeTo">
        <x>center</x>
        <y>0</y>
        <height>1/2</height>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="W-KP_6">
      <action name="UnmaximizeHoriz"/>
      <action name="MaximizeVert"/>
      <action name="MoveResizeTo">
        <x>-0</x>
        <y>center</y>
        <width>1/2</width>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="W-KP_2">
      <action name="UnmaximizeVert"/>
      <action name="MaximizeHorz"/>
      <action name="MoveResizeTo">
        <x>center</x>
        <y>-0</y>
        <height>1/2</height>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="W-KP_4">
      <action name="UnmaximizeHoriz"/>
      <action name="MaximizeVert"/>
      <action name="MoveResizeTo">
        <x>0</x>
        <y>center</y>
        <width>1/2</width>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="W-KP_7">
      <action name="UnMaximizeFull"/>
      <action name="MoveResizeTo">
        <x>0</x>
        <y>0</y>
        <width>1/2</width>
        <height>1/2</height>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="W-KP_9">
      <action name="UnMaximizeFull"/>
      <action name="MoveResizeTo">
        <x>-0</x>
        <y>0</y>
        <width>1/2</width>
        <height>1/2</height>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="W-KP_1">
      <action name="UnMaximizeFull"/>
      <action name="MoveResizeTo">
        <x>0</x>
        <y>-0</y>
        <width>1/2</width>
        <height>1/2</height>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="W-KP_3">
      <action name="UnMaximizeFull"/>
      <action name="MoveResizeTo">
        <x>-0</x>
        <y>-0</y>
        <width>1/2</width>
        <height>1/2</height>
      </action>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="W-KP_5">
      <action name="ToggleMaximizeFull"/>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="W-KP_0"><action name="Iconify"/>
    </keybind>
  <mouse>
    <dragThreshold>8</dragThreshold>
    <!-- number of pixels the mouse must move before a drag begins -->
    <doubleClickTime>200</doubleClickTime>
    <!-- in milliseconds (1000 = 1 second) -->
    <screenEdgeWarpTime>400</screenEdgeWarpTime>
    <!-- Time before changing desktops when the pointer touches the edge of the
       screen while moving a window, in milliseconds (1000 = 1 second).
       Set this to 0 to disable warping -->
    <context name="Frame">
      <mousebind button="A-Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="A-Left" action="Click">
        <action name="Unshade"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="A-Left" action="Drag">
        <action name="Move"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="A-Right" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
        <action name="Unshade"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="A-Right" action="Drag">
        <action name="Resize"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="A-Middle" action="Press">
        <action name="Lower"/>
        <action name="FocusToBottom"/>
        <action name="Unfocus"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="A-Up" action="Click">
        <action name="DesktopPrevious"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="A-Down" action="Click">
        <action name="DesktopNext"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="C-A-Up" action="Click">
        <action name="DesktopPrevious"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="C-A-Down" action="Click">
        <action name="DesktopNext"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="A-S-Up" action="Click">
        <action name="SendToDesktopPrevious"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="A-S-Down" action="Click">
        <action name="SendToDesktopNext"/>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="Titlebar">
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Drag">
        <action name="Move"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Left" action="DoubleClick">
        <action name="ToggleMaximizeFull"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Middle" action="Press">
        <action name="Lower"/>
        <action name="FocusToBottom"/>
        <action name="Unfocus"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Up" action="Click">
        <action name="Shade"/>
        <action name="FocusToBottom"/>
        <action name="Unfocus"/>
        <action name="Lower"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Down" action="Click">
        <action name="Unshade"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Right" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
        <action name="ShowMenu">
          <menu>client-menu</menu>
        </action>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="Top">
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
        <action name="Unshade"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Drag">
        <action name="Resize">
          <edge>top</edge>
        </action>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="Left">
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Drag">
        <action name="Resize">
          <edge>left</edge>
        </action>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="Right">
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Drag">
        <action name="Resize">
          <edge>right</edge>
        </action>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="Bottom">
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Drag">
        <action name="Resize">
          <edge>bottom</edge>
        </action>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Middle" action="Press">
        <action name="Lower"/>
        <action name="FocusToBottom"/>
        <action name="Unfocus"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Right" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
        <action name="ShowMenu">
          <menu>client-menu</menu>
        </action>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="BLCorner">
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Drag">
        <action name="Resize"/>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="BRCorner">
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Drag">
        <action name="Resize"/>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="TLCorner">
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
        <action name="Unshade"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Drag">
        <action name="Resize"/>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="TRCorner">
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
        <action name="Unshade"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Drag">
        <action name="Resize"/>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="Client">
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Middle" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Right" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="Icon">
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
        <action name="Unshade"/>
        <action name="ShowMenu">
          <menu>client-menu</menu>
        </action>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Right" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
        <action name="ShowMenu">
          <menu>client-menu</menu>
        </action>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="AllDesktops">
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
        <action name="Unshade"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Click">
        <action name="ToggleOmnipresent"/>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="Shade">
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Click">
        <action name="ToggleShade"/>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="Iconify">
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Click">
        <action name="Iconify"/>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="Maximize">
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
        <action name="Unshade"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Middle" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
        <action name="Unshade"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Right" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
        <action name="Unshade"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Click">
        <action name="ToggleMaximizeFull"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Middle" action="Click">
        <action name="ToggleMaximizeVert"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Right" action="Click">
        <action name="ToggleMaximizeHorz"/>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="Close">
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
        <action name="Unshade"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Click">
        <action name="Close"/>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="Desktop">
      <mousebind button="Up" action="Click">
        <action name="DesktopPrevious"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Down" action="Click">
        <action name="DesktopNext"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="A-Up" action="Click">
        <action name="DesktopPrevious"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="A-Down" action="Click">
        <action name="DesktopNext"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="C-A-Up" action="Click">
        <action name="DesktopPrevious"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="C-A-Down" action="Click">
        <action name="DesktopNext"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="Root">
      <!-- Menus -->
      <mousebind button="Middle" action="Press">
        <action name="Execute">
          <command>background</command>
        </action>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Right" action="Press">
        <action name="ShowMenu">
          <menu>client-list-combined-menu</menu>
        </action>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Left" action="Press">
        <action name="ShowMenu">
          <menu>root-menu</menu>
        </action>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
    <context name="MoveResize">
      <mousebind button="Up" action="Click">
        <action name="DesktopPrevious"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="Down" action="Click">
        <action name="DesktopNext"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="A-Up" action="Click">
        <action name="DesktopPrevious"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="A-Down" action="Click">
        <action name="DesktopNext"/>
      </mousebind>
    </context>
  </mouse>
  <menu>
    <!-- You can specify more than one menu file in here and they are all loaded,
       just don't make menu ids clash or, well, it'll be kind of pointless -->
    <!-- default menu file (or custom one in $HOME/.config/openbox/) -->
    <file>menu.xml</file>
    <hideDelay>200</hideDelay>
    <middle>no</middle>
    <submenuShowDelay>100</submenuShowDelay>
    <applicationIcons>yes</applicationIcons>
  </menu>
  <applications>
    <!--
  # this is an example with comments through out. use these to make your
  # own rules, but without the comments of course.

  <application name="first element of window's WM_CLASS property (see xprop)"
              class="second element of window's WM_CLASS property (see xprop)"
               role="the window's WM_WINDOW_ROLE property (see xprop)">
  # the name or the class can be set, or both. this is used to match
  # windows when they appear. role can optionally be set as well, to
  # further restrict your matches.

  # the name, class, and role use simple wildcard matching such as those
  # used by a shell. you can use * to match any characters and ? to match
  # any single character.

  # when multiple rules match a window, they will all be applied, in the
  # order that they appear in this list


    # each element can be left out or set to 'default' to specify to not
    # change that attribute of the window

    <decor>yes</decor>
    # enable or disable window decorations

    <shade>no</shade>
    # make the window shaded when it appears, or not

    <position>
      # the position is only used if both an x and y coordinate are provided
      # (and not set to 'default')
      <x>center</x>
      # a number like 50, or 'center' to center on screen. use a negative number
      # to start from the right (or bottom for <y>), ie -50 is 50 pixels from the
      # right edge (or bottom).
      <y>200</y>
      <monitor>1</monitor>
      # specifies the monitor in a xinerama setup.
      # 1 is the first head, or 'mouse' for wherever the mouse is
    </position>

    <focus>yes</focus>
    # if the window should try be given focus when it appears. if this is set
    # to yes it doesn't guarantee the window will be given focus. some
    # restrictions may apply, but Openbox will try to

    <desktop>1</desktop>
    # 1 is the first desktop, 'all' for all desktops

    <layer>normal</layer>
    # 'above', 'normal', or 'below'

    <iconic>no</iconic>
    # make the window iconified when it appears, or not

    <skip_pager>no</skip_pager>
    # asks to not be shown in pagers

    <skip_taskbar>no</skip_taskbar>
    # asks to not be shown in taskbars. window cycling actions will also
    # skip past such windows

    <fullscreen>yes</fullscreen>
    # make the window in fullscreen mode when it appears

    <maximized>true</maximized>
    # 'Horizontal', 'Vertical' or boolean (yes/no)
  </application>

  # end of the example
-->
    <application class="gtkdialog-splash">
      <focus>no</focus>
      <desktop>all</desktop>
      <layer>above</layer>
      <skip_taskbar>yes</skip_taskbar>
    </application>
    <application name="xine Panel">
      <decor>no</decor>
    </application>
  </applications>
</openbox_config>

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan 2017, 23:35    Post subject:  

Just rebooted with devx - terminal still unresponsive ... something is broken. Sigh.
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jan 2017, 00:22    Post subject:  

I presume the problem is that the new keybindings should be inside the keyboard tags, with the original keybindings. i.e. move this line down below them:
Code:
</keyboard>

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PostPosted: Sat 21 Jan 2017, 21:48    Post subject:  

I've hacked around in this load so much that who know what I may have broken.
Project delayed until we return from a large Amateur Radio fleamarket in early Feb, where we hope to find a suitable replacement CPU, then complete the new PC.
Will report back at that time & see what things look like.
Sure appreciate the assist!

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PostPosted: Tue 25 Apr 2017, 06:10    Post subject:  

disciple wrote:
disciple wrote:
- an easy gui to change the layout on the fly! When I was first looking this seemed quite rare. I know Bluetile (which is really Xmonad underneath) provides this, but surely there must be others...

Apparently dwm allows you to change layout via a tray icon, so I should probably try it sometime, and maybe spectrewm.
I was planning to try bspwm, but I can't really remember why.

I have now tried spectrwm (note no e - hope I didn't confuse anyone with that mistake). It is what people might remember as scrotwm, and its main reason for being is that it is written in a sane language (e.g no ghc required) and comes with "sane defaults" (I think these can be improved, so I'll post mine at some point), so doesn't require a lot of configuration or even learning a language to get started. It is pretty good.
I now have my machine plugged into the TV and am using it without a mouse, so lack of window decorations is no longer a deal breaker, but I'm still very keen on suggestions of tiling WMs with normal window decorations and control of the tiling via additional decorations or right-click in titlebar (so other people can use it without being trained, particularly if I do go back to a Desktop with a mouse at some stage).

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