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Dillo - Browser
Posted: Mon 15 Feb 2010, 09:11
by aragon
Home:
http://www.dillo.org/
Version: 3.0.2-1
What is Dillo?
* Dillo is a multi-platform graphical web browser known for its speed and small footprint.
* Dillo is written in C and C++.
* Dillo is based on FLTK, the Fast Light Toolkit (statically-linked by default!).
* Dillo is free software made available under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPLv3).
* Dillo strives to be friendly both to users and developers.
* Dillo helps web authors to comply with web standards by using the bug meter.
This is statically compiled against fltk. Compiled and tested in 4.31.
20111217: Uploaded new Release 3.0.2.
20110926: Uploaded new Release 3.0.1. Dillo has now a conf-option for the fltk-Theme.
aragon
Posted: Mon 15 Feb 2010, 23:58
by puritanic829
Works great.. and I'm pleasently surprised to see some CSS support from the new version!
However, any idea how to get some nicer fonts? The fonts I get are quite ugly.
Posted: Tue 16 Feb 2010, 03:45
by ttuuxxx
puritanic829 wrote:
However, any idea how to get some nicer fonts? The fonts I get are quite ugly.
here install this, the dillo config file is missing from the pet.
after go to /root/.dillo/dillorc and manually change it, I already did do a few setting changes
ttuuxxx
Posted: Tue 16 Feb 2010, 04:26
by puritanic829
ttuuxxx wrote:puritanic829 wrote:
However, any idea how to get some nicer fonts? The fonts I get are quite ugly.
here install this, the dillo config file is missing from the pet.
after go to /root/.dillo/dillorc and manually change it, I already did do a few setting changes
ttuuxxx
Awesome, that works great. Thanks a lot!
Adjust font size while browsing
Posted: Tue 16 Feb 2010, 05:39
by don922
I have several websites that when displayed in dillo the fonts are very small -- much smaller than the font appears in Firefox.
I have downloaded and installed the dillo_settings.pet.
Can the font size be increased or decreased while browsing? (Like using the mousewheel in Firefox.)
Re: Adjust font size while browsing
Posted: Tue 16 Feb 2010, 05:48
by ttuuxxx
don922 wrote:I have several websites that when displayed in dillo the fonts are very small -- much smaller than the font appears in Firefox.
I have downloaded and installed the dillo_settings.pet.
Can the font size be increased or decreased while browsing? (Like using the mousewheel in Firefox.)
I don't think so don922, I think manually editing /root/.dillo/dillorc is the only way.
ttuuxxx
Adjust font size while browsing
Posted: Tue 16 Feb 2010, 06:02
by don922
I was afraid of that!
The strange thing about this particular web site is that I don't have a problem with the font size using the version of dillo included in Puppy 214X. I have even copied the dillorc in 214X and tried it in dillo version: 2.2 -- but it didn't help.
If I knew the dillo version in 214X I would get rid of version 2.2 and download and install that version.
Posted: Tue 16 Feb 2010, 08:16
by aragon
ttuuxxx wrote:here install this, the dillo config file is missing from the pet.
No they are not missing, they are not there by intention...
the general config-files are at
if we want to make user-config-files, we copy all files from
to
and edit those files.
The usual access sequence is, first look in $HOME than look in /etc for config-files.
if we include user-config-files in a/the package, previous existing ones would get overwritten, what would be not that nice, if a user has allready configured dillo before.
don922 wrote:I have several websites that when displayed in dillo the fonts are very small -- much smaller than the font appears in Firefox.
Well this is true for most browsers i guess... but sorry to say that: you'll notice much more differences between firefox and dillo...
aragon
Adjust font size while browsing
Posted: Tue 16 Feb 2010, 08:45
by don922
I have solved the problem of "small font sizes", at least on the websites that I was concerned about.
Unselecting Use remote CSS in the Tools menu allows the fonts to become larger, normal sized and very readable.
Posted: Tue 16 Feb 2010, 09:11
by disciple
Cool, I didn't realise Dillo officially does css now.
Apart from that, do you guys think it has caught up with the GTK version yet?
Posted: Tue 16 Feb 2010, 11:22
by aragon
disciple wrote:Apart from that, do you guys think it has caught up with the GTK version yet?
sorry, i can't remember the features of the gtk-one...
aragon
Posted: Tue 16 Feb 2010, 12:52
by puritanic829
disciple wrote:Cool, I didn't realise Dillo officially does css now.
Apart from that, do you guys think it has caught up with the GTK version yet?
Definitely, and it has surpassed them. I actually liked the tab handling in the 0.8* versions included with Debian, but those were neither official nor really had any extra features.
It has only surpassed the GTK versions in features at every front.
Posted: Tue 16 Feb 2010, 21:12
by Eyes-Only
Hi Aragon,
Just to let you know - this also is working fabulous in Dpup-484b3 as well. Love it! I'm looking forward to going around and upgrading all my other Dillo installs ( from 2.0 to 2.1.1 ) so as to bring them all up to date. ( Only 9 more distros to go! LOL! )
Since Dillo-v2.0 has come out I've found myself using it more and more - and not just here about 90% of the time - but also elsewhere around the net due to its speed in rendering. It may not be always
accurate in rendering a page but at least it
always gives me the text - and after all isn't that the most important of all when digging for info?
Thank you for your compiling dilligance Aragon as it's always greatly appreciated - and I'm afraid I don't tell you enough.
Amicalement/Cheers,
Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge d'Acadie"
Posted: Wed 17 Feb 2010, 05:36
by disciple
I actually liked the tab handling in the 0.8* versions included with Debian, but those were neither official nor really had any extra features.
Ah, sorry. I meant to ask how it compares with the patched gtk versions like in Puppy, as they were basically what everyone used
Posted: Wed 17 Feb 2010, 07:18
by disciple
Ah, looks like it might take a while to get there.
- It is nice and fast.
- I too prefer the tab handling in the patched gtk versions than in this fltk version.
- It doesn't support javascript yet. Either there was a patch to support javascript, or the patch that extracted some urls or something from javascript worked quite well... the dillo version in old Puppies works for sites like megaupload.com (actually, it is the best browser to use, because it doesn't support flash to show the adds, and it ignores the instruction to make you wait to see the download link). The current version doesn't work.
- The css support is still so basic that I think I prefer it turned off.
- It fails to log on to some websites that the gtk version could (in addition to popping up multiple dialogues telling you that the server is not authenticated, instead of just one).
Posted: Wed 17 Feb 2010, 08:52
by aragon
Eyes-Only wrote:Thank you for your compiling dilligance Aragon as it's always greatly appreciated - and I'm afraid I don't tell you enough.
to much ...
aragon
Posted: Wed 17 Feb 2010, 08:57
by aragon
disciple wrote:Ah, looks like it might take a while to get there.
- It doesn't support javascript yet. Either there was a patch to support javascript, or the patch that extracted some urls or something from javascript worked quite well... the dillo version in old Puppies works for sites like megaupload.com (actually, it is the best browser to use, because it doesn't support flash to show the adds, and it ignores the instruction to make you wait to see the download link). The current version doesn't work.
i see, a real downside.
- It fails to log on to some websites that the gtk version could (in addition to popping up multiple dialogues telling you that the server is not authenticated, instead of just one).
this is still experimental (obvious). i turned it on to test a little. would you prefer a second package with the 'feature' turned off?
aragon
Posted: Wed 17 Feb 2010, 09:07
by disciple
No thanks, don't wory about that for me. I'll still use the gtk one if I want Dillo.
font rendering in dillo and opera
Posted: Wed 17 Feb 2010, 17:40
by upnorth
Regarding the font rendering issue mentioned above:
This is not unique to dillo-2.2 or this particular build of dillo2.2. The same situation occurs with opera Version 10.50 Build 6219.
In some cases, when a page loads with stylesheet(s), the fonts appear with jagged edges and wrong sizes. This is most noticeable on V and / characters. This occurs even with local pages and is common among 431, quirky006, and dpup afaik.
The font displayed is actually helvetica and not the intended truetype font.
In dpup484b4:
I renamed the 3 files in /etc/fonts, then added all the files from the debian package(lenny 2.6.0-3)fontconfig-config. This resulted in proper font rendering where it was previously degraded . I don't know specifically what fixed the problem but it is related to fontconfig somehow. Also, rename ~.fonts.conf if present.
This hack has no effect in quirky006 or 431.
There must be a simpler fix out there somewhere that would work in all puppies.
UPDATE: In quirky006, I solved the problem by entering the directory:
/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fonts/misc Then moving only the helv fonts to a safe hiding place in my home directory. There are only 3 in quirky006. Doing any more than this can bork your system.
In Puppy431, the same procedure works, however, there are 24 helv fonts.
This is only a brute force solution that works and so far no side effects have manifested. I assume that the problem is caused by a stylesheet reference to helv or arial or san-serif and helv is deferenced over san-serif: ex: body,td,th { font-family: arial, helvetica, helv, sans-serif; }
Posted: Wed 17 Feb 2010, 17:42
by upnorth
looks like even local.conf is now deprecated for fontconfig-config