(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

hi techno BMP in or pmusic, tough call, really a CE edition is about the community, I consider myself as part of community, Let me lay it down for you real easy, a community edition is about the community actually giving input and the leader aka you , decides the end result.
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bigpup wrote:Beem,

I think a lot of your problems are being caused by start-up seeing saved files and SFS files, from other puppies you have, and using them for settings. The indication of this is your statement:

I never got the questions about keyboard, timezone, locale, and graphic environment (xorg - xvesa)

The second one is that at shutdown I never got the panel to say yes I want to save to a save file.

You say you stat with puppy pfix=ram, but are you sure this command is being followed?

I boot with pfix=ram for a first time.

I just booted with no saved files or SFS files, on my computer, and I got none of the problems you had.

Nice for you, but the 4.4 pre alpha is the first I have this issues. Running puppy from early 2.xx versions on.

Maybe my question was lost.
Can someone give me the correct name for the pup save file?
I can then try to create an empty one.

Béèm wrote:Can someone give me the correct name for the pup save file?

pupsave-xxx.2fs

This seems to be a very nice system. I'm running it off a frugal install, but I haven't yet made a save file. Here are some findings:
1. I can't enable Glipper. Nothing appears in the tray.
2. As someone else observed, I have no icons for drives on the desktop.
3. I can't change the page that come up when I open Seamonkey. I have changed the home page in Preferences, and that page comes up when I click the home icon on the toolbar. But when I activate Seamonkey, I get the resources page for TinyCore, no matter what.
4. I wish a full applications menu would come up when I right-click on the desktop. That was a great convenience, and I don't know how to bring it back.

re: glipper - I had removed it to install the new glipperlite, but forgot to install glipperlite, but normally this would work
echo >/root/.glipper_on
then restart x

thanks for the heads up

davec51 wrote:4. I wish a full applications menu would come up when I right-click on the desktop. That was a great convenience, and I don't know how to bring it back.

Get it back by : Menu --> Control-center --> desktop --> menu. Here you can specify all available menus. You are looking for Programs menu. Define it for mouse-right click.


Sigmund

Hello !

Is this the direction, in which the 44CE is going?

I don't think I have the eye-sight to run this CE; black text on dark-gray background or dark-yellow text on gray background .

Booted with pkeys as usual, no cigar, had to manually set my keyboard layout.

Right-click on desktop to open the menu - I miss it .

Sorry, but I was faster helping out my colleague on his Vista machine (which I had never previously run) than I was finding my way around in this CE-puplet (and I have tried quite a few of these puppies) .

Ok, I know it's only a pre-alpha, it might still come around ...

Galculator , but why in Menu/Program/Business .

hth /
MHHP

Installed Htop and Kazehakase........both are working fine.

I'm with Lobster on Burniso2cd as well....I have much more success with it than other burner apps.

I know its just a pre-alpha but I had restore some icons and change themes and stuff......

James C wrote: I'm with Lobster on Burniso2cd as well....I have much more success with it than other burner apps.

+1

It's easy to use and it always works.

sounds fine - it looks like I'm going to need to make a list

something a bit weird with the clock in the tray.. and no freememapplet (the time is actually 6:11pm here, but I couldn't resist that shot)

spose we should be going through the bugtracker at googlecode

Noticed too heaps of extra formats supported in mtpaint when I took the screeny.... why's that? Recompile of netpbm?

Cheers

Jim1911 wrote:

Béèm wrote:Can someone give me the correct name for the pup save file?

pupsave-xxx.2fs

Thank you.
I wasn't sure it followed the one of the newer 4.xx puppies.

I personally think the dark look is cool.

There seems to be an influx of oldies into the Puppy Forum these days who complain that the theme is too dark for their aging visual perception abilities. Since I'm rapidly becoming an "oldie" myself, I do understand what they mean. Maybe a default theme should be lighter (call it "Old but Experienced"?) and another for those with more cat-like vision. (Call it "Dark but Interesting"?)

On another topic, yesterday I had the task of installing drivers for printing and scanning into 4.4Alpha. (for a Brother DCP7030 all-in-one). Basically it worked for me by doing the following:

1. Go to http://packages.debian.org and select the 'testing' repo.
2. Install DPKG from there using Puppy Package manager.
3. Go to http://solutions.brother.com and download the relevant drivers.
4. Install the drivers as per the online guide at Brother.

The thing is, Puppy 4 series comes out-of-the-box with 'dpkg-deb' but not 'dpkg' which is necessary if you need to use 'dpkg' from the command-line for any reason - as is certainly the case if you are trying to install certain types of DEB packages such as the above-mentioned Brother drivers to take an example.

It is necessary to use the command-line here because on occasions you need to pass command-line parameters to dpkg e.g. 'dpkg -i force-all'

It is also often useful to be able to easily install debs into puppy in situations where there is no easily available native Puppy alternative.

What this adds up to then, is that there now appears to be a need for DPKG to be included in Puppy in addition to DPKG-DEB (already included).

To make this easier for newbies (as well as the more experienced)
a pet package for DPKG appears to be in order. (lol, a dotpet for a Debian DEB for DPKG).

The resultant pet will not be of any significant size and will also contain blank files placed in /var/lib/dpkg called 'status' and 'available'.

If there is any interest or demand for this, I could build this dotpet from the existing DEB. Let me know and I'll make it. Ideal for 4.4CE I reckon.

There is a discussion here about installing Brother devices from DEB packages.

I have been using petget to install debs for a while - would petget not install them? What advantage is dpkg over petget's deb support?
I have also made a patch to install txz packages and our own new similar xz compressed pet called pxt...all that is left is rpm and there was a thread on that too

mtpaint was from svn... wjaguar has made many improvements and mtpaint now also supports theming... but needs testing

@technosaurus

Downloaded local DEBs will often install fine directly via Puppy Package manager. This is accomplished via dpkg-deb - a different package from dpkg itself.

But, if a situation arises where you need to install a locally downloaded DEB from the command line (as opposed to clicking on the DEB file and then letting Puppy PM take care of things) - then DPKG also needs to be installed. An example of this situation could arise if you have, say, printer drivers to install that require a forced install for some reason.

The drivers(s) for my Brother printer/scanner will not install in any other way other than by issuing a command line such as:

dpkg -i force-install 'name of driver' for example

Puppy by default only contains dpkg-deb - an executable that (not surprisingly) does not accept the command-line parameters from dpkg.

It's a relatively uncommon situation to come across having said that, but could be worth its weight in gold if you're struggling with installing stuff from the massive Debian repos as is necessary on occasions.

The size/usefulness trade-off would be favourable, since the basic dpkg executable is small. Only other things to be included in the dotpet would be two blank files that hold installed package data. (apt-get is not needed in this case in order to be able get this to work well enough to accomplish the required package installation). As always, dependencies are another matter though.

I have busybox 1.16.0 already compiled and it includes dpkg.

here are the options included

dpkg

dpkg [-ilCPru] [-F option] package_name

Install, remove and manage Debian packages

Options:

-i Install the package
-l List of installed packages
-C Configure an unpackaged package
-F depends Ignore dependency problems
-P Purge all files of a package
-r Remove all but the configuration files for a package
-u Unpack a package, but don't configure it

@technosaurus

Having dpkg included in Busybox should do the trick then, so that's good.

Have you considered putting Searchmonkey in 4.4 CE?

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01269