4.4 Pre Alpha test run
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re: glipper - I had removed it to install the new glipperlite, but forgot to install glipperlite, but normally this would work
echo >/root/.glipper_on
then restart x
thanks for the heads up
echo >/root/.glipper_on
then restart x
thanks for the heads up
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Re: Some Very First Responses
Get it back by : Menu --> Control-center --> desktop --> menu. Here you can specify all available menus. You are looking for Programs menu. Define it for mouse-right click.davec51 wrote:4. I wish a full applications menu would come up when I right-click on the desktop. That was a great convenience, and I don't know how to bring it back.
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Hello !
Is this the direction, in which the 44CE is going?
I don't think I have the eye-sight to run this CE; black text on dark-gray background or dark-yellow text on gray background .
Booted with pkeys as usual, no cigar, had to manually set my keyboard layout.
Right-click on desktop to open the menu - I miss it .
Sorry, but I was faster helping out my colleague on his Vista machine (which I had never previously run) than I was finding my way around in this CE-puplet (and I have tried quite a few of these puppies) .
Ok, I know it's only a pre-alpha, it might still come around ...
Galculator , but why in Menu/Program/Business .
hth /
MHHP
Is this the direction, in which the 44CE is going?
I don't think I have the eye-sight to run this CE; black text on dark-gray background or dark-yellow text on gray background .
Booted with pkeys as usual, no cigar, had to manually set my keyboard layout.
Right-click on desktop to open the menu - I miss it .
Sorry, but I was faster helping out my colleague on his Vista machine (which I had never previously run) than I was finding my way around in this CE-puplet (and I have tried quite a few of these puppies) .
Ok, I know it's only a pre-alpha, it might still come around ...
Galculator , but why in Menu/Program/Business .
hth /
MHHP
[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]
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something a bit weird with the clock in the tray.. and no freememapplet (the time is actually 6:11pm here, but I couldn't resist that shot)
spose we should be going through the bugtracker at googlecode
Noticed too heaps of extra formats supported in mtpaint when I took the screeny.... why's that? Recompile of netpbm?
Cheers
spose we should be going through the bugtracker at googlecode
Noticed too heaps of extra formats supported in mtpaint when I took the screeny.... why's that? Recompile of netpbm?
Cheers
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Thank you.Jim1911 wrote:pupsave-xxx.2fsBéèm wrote:Can someone give me the correct name for the pup save file?
I wasn't sure it followed the one of the newer 4.xx puppies.
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dark theme for alpha 4.4 and dpkg
I personally think the dark look is cool.
There seems to be an influx of oldies into the Puppy Forum these days who complain that the theme is too dark for their aging visual perception abilities. Since I'm rapidly becoming an "oldie" myself, I do understand what they mean. Maybe a default theme should be lighter (call it "Old but Experienced"?) and another for those with more cat-like vision. (Call it "Dark but Interesting"?)
On another topic, yesterday I had the task of installing drivers for printing and scanning into 4.4Alpha. (for a Brother DCP7030 all-in-one). Basically it worked for me by doing the following:
1. Go to http://packages.debian.org and select the 'testing' repo.
2. Install DPKG from there using Puppy Package manager.
3. Go to http://solutions.brother.com and download the relevant drivers.
4. Install the drivers as per the online guide at Brother.
The thing is, Puppy 4 series comes out-of-the-box with 'dpkg-deb' but not 'dpkg' which is necessary if you need to use 'dpkg' from the command-line for any reason - as is certainly the case if you are trying to install certain types of DEB packages such as the above-mentioned Brother drivers to take an example.
It is necessary to use the command-line here because on occasions you need to pass command-line parameters to dpkg e.g. 'dpkg -i force-all'
It is also often useful to be able to easily install debs into puppy in situations where there is no easily available native Puppy alternative.
What this adds up to then, is that there now appears to be a need for DPKG to be included in Puppy in addition to DPKG-DEB (already included).
To make this easier for newbies (as well as the more experienced)
a pet package for DPKG appears to be in order. (lol, a dotpet for a Debian DEB for DPKG).
The resultant pet will not be of any significant size and will also contain blank files placed in /var/lib/dpkg called 'status' and 'available'.
If there is any interest or demand for this, I could build this dotpet from the existing DEB. Let me know and I'll make it. Ideal for 4.4CE I reckon.
There seems to be an influx of oldies into the Puppy Forum these days who complain that the theme is too dark for their aging visual perception abilities. Since I'm rapidly becoming an "oldie" myself, I do understand what they mean. Maybe a default theme should be lighter (call it "Old but Experienced"?) and another for those with more cat-like vision. (Call it "Dark but Interesting"?)
On another topic, yesterday I had the task of installing drivers for printing and scanning into 4.4Alpha. (for a Brother DCP7030 all-in-one). Basically it worked for me by doing the following:
1. Go to http://packages.debian.org and select the 'testing' repo.
2. Install DPKG from there using Puppy Package manager.
3. Go to http://solutions.brother.com and download the relevant drivers.
4. Install the drivers as per the online guide at Brother.
The thing is, Puppy 4 series comes out-of-the-box with 'dpkg-deb' but not 'dpkg' which is necessary if you need to use 'dpkg' from the command-line for any reason - as is certainly the case if you are trying to install certain types of DEB packages such as the above-mentioned Brother drivers to take an example.
It is necessary to use the command-line here because on occasions you need to pass command-line parameters to dpkg e.g. 'dpkg -i force-all'
It is also often useful to be able to easily install debs into puppy in situations where there is no easily available native Puppy alternative.
What this adds up to then, is that there now appears to be a need for DPKG to be included in Puppy in addition to DPKG-DEB (already included).
To make this easier for newbies (as well as the more experienced)
a pet package for DPKG appears to be in order. (lol, a dotpet for a Debian DEB for DPKG).
The resultant pet will not be of any significant size and will also contain blank files placed in /var/lib/dpkg called 'status' and 'available'.
If there is any interest or demand for this, I could build this dotpet from the existing DEB. Let me know and I'll make it. Ideal for 4.4CE I reckon.
Life is too short to spend it in front of a computer
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I have been using petget to install debs for a while - would petget not install them? What advantage is dpkg over petget's deb support?
I have also made a patch to install txz packages and our own new similar xz compressed pet called pxt...all that is left is rpm and there was a thread on that too
mtpaint was from svn... wjaguar has made many improvements and mtpaint now also supports theming... but needs testing
I have also made a patch to install txz packages and our own new similar xz compressed pet called pxt...all that is left is rpm and there was a thread on that too
mtpaint was from svn... wjaguar has made many improvements and mtpaint now also supports theming... but needs testing
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Downloaded local DEBs will often install fine directly via Puppy Package manager. This is accomplished via dpkg-deb - a different package from dpkg itself.
But, if a situation arises where you need to install a locally downloaded DEB from the command line (as opposed to clicking on the DEB file and then letting Puppy PM take care of things) - then DPKG also needs to be installed. An example of this situation could arise if you have, say, printer drivers to install that require a forced install for some reason.
The drivers(s) for my Brother printer/scanner will not install in any other way other than by issuing a command line such as:
dpkg -i force-install 'name of driver' for example
Puppy by default only contains dpkg-deb - an executable that (not surprisingly) does not accept the command-line parameters from dpkg.
It's a relatively uncommon situation to come across having said that, but could be worth its weight in gold if you're struggling with installing stuff from the massive Debian repos as is necessary on occasions.
The size/usefulness trade-off would be favourable, since the basic dpkg executable is small. Only other things to be included in the dotpet would be two blank files that hold installed package data. (apt-get is not needed in this case in order to be able get this to work well enough to accomplish the required package installation). As always, dependencies are another matter though.
Downloaded local DEBs will often install fine directly via Puppy Package manager. This is accomplished via dpkg-deb - a different package from dpkg itself.
But, if a situation arises where you need to install a locally downloaded DEB from the command line (as opposed to clicking on the DEB file and then letting Puppy PM take care of things) - then DPKG also needs to be installed. An example of this situation could arise if you have, say, printer drivers to install that require a forced install for some reason.
The drivers(s) for my Brother printer/scanner will not install in any other way other than by issuing a command line such as:
dpkg -i force-install 'name of driver' for example
Puppy by default only contains dpkg-deb - an executable that (not surprisingly) does not accept the command-line parameters from dpkg.
It's a relatively uncommon situation to come across having said that, but could be worth its weight in gold if you're struggling with installing stuff from the massive Debian repos as is necessary on occasions.
The size/usefulness trade-off would be favourable, since the basic dpkg executable is small. Only other things to be included in the dotpet would be two blank files that hold installed package data. (apt-get is not needed in this case in order to be able get this to work well enough to accomplish the required package installation). As always, dependencies are another matter though.
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I have busybox 1.16.0 already compiled and it includes dpkg.
here are the options included
dpkg
dpkg [-ilCPru] [-F option] package_name
Install, remove and manage Debian packages
Options:
-i Install the package
-l List of installed packages
-C Configure an unpackaged package
-F depends Ignore dependency problems
-P Purge all files of a package
-r Remove all but the configuration files for a package
-u Unpack a package, but don't configure it
here are the options included
dpkg
dpkg [-ilCPru] [-F option] package_name
Install, remove and manage Debian packages
Options:
-i Install the package
-l List of installed packages
-C Configure an unpackaged package
-F depends Ignore dependency problems
-P Purge all files of a package
-r Remove all but the configuration files for a package
-u Unpack a package, but don't configure it
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this searchmonkey or the yahoo project?
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As the problems I had were so weird and as I didn't find a md5sum to verify if the download was done correctly, I decided to download again.
Either in the meantime the iso has been updated or I had indeed a bad download, but this time I got all the good questions on pfix=ram.
And I am in xorg
Just have to see if I get the proposal to create a save file.
But: altho I defined my keyboard to be Belgium, it stayed in us.
I redid the config through the control panel, but to no avail, still us.
Finally I edited xorg.conf and changed us to be.
I am in Belgian now.
I suppose I better open an incident in the bug track system for this.
Hopefully there is a follow up, as for other puppies I used a bug track system, already but never saw any activity.
Either in the meantime the iso has been updated or I had indeed a bad download, but this time I got all the good questions on pfix=ram.
And I am in xorg
Just have to see if I get the proposal to create a save file.
But: altho I defined my keyboard to be Belgium, it stayed in us.
I redid the config through the control panel, but to no avail, still us.
Finally I edited xorg.conf and changed us to be.
I am in Belgian now.
I suppose I better open an incident in the bug track system for this.
Hopefully there is a follow up, as for other puppies I used a bug track system, already but never saw any activity.
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I rebuilt busybox from master with almost allyesconfig and have set up a pinstall.sh that will only make symlinks if the program is not installed in the executable path... so if you have a program installed you will need to move it out of your path (so which cannot find it) prior to installation if you want to test the busybox version (although I configured busybox with the ability to install itself via busbox --install -s , I used a pinstall.sh script to do it manually in case programs are installed to non-default locations - when tar is configured with --prefix=/usr for example)
If anyone would like to test it for dpkg or others it also provides the following:
If anyone would like to test it for dpkg or others it also provides the following:
- [, [[, acpid, addgroup, adduser, adjtimex, ar, arp, arping, ash, awk,
basename, bbconfig, beep, blkid, brctl, bunzip2, bzcat, bzip2, cal,
cat, catv, chat, chattr, chgrp, chmod, chown, chpasswd, chpst, chroot,
chrt, chvt, cksum, clear, cmp, comm, cp, cpio, crond, crontab, cryptpw,
cttyhack, cut, date, dc, dd, deallocvt, delgroup, deluser, depmod,
devfsd, devmem, df, dhcprelay, diff, dirname, dmesg, dnsd,
dnsdomainname, dos2unix, dpkg, dpkg-deb, du, dumpkmap, dumpleases,
echo, ed, egrep, eject, env, envdir, envuidgid, ether-wake, expand,
expr, fakeidentd, false, fbset, fbsplash, fdflush, fdformat, fdisk,
fgrep, find, findfs, flash_eraseall, flash_lock, flash_unlock, flashcp,
fold, free, freeramdisk, fsck, fsck.minix, fsync, ftpd, ftpget, ftpput,
fuser, getopt, getty, grep, gunzip, gzip, halt, hd, hdparm, head,
hexdump, hostid, hostname, httpd, hush, hwclock, id, ifconfig, ifdown,
ifenslave, ifplugd, ifup, inetd, init, inotifyd, insmod, install,
ionice, ip, ipaddr, ipcalc, ipcrm, ipcs, iplink, iproute, iprule,
iptunnel, kbd_mode, kill, killall, killall5, klogd, lash, last, length,
less, linux32, linux64, linuxrc, ln, loadfont, loadkmap, logger, login,
logname, logread, losetup, lpd, lpq, lpr, ls, lsattr, lsmod, lspci,
lsusb, lzmacat, lzop, lzopcat, makedevs, makemime, man, md5sum, mdev,
mesg, microcom, mkdir, mkdosfs, mke2fs, mkfifo, mkfs.ext2, mkfs.minix,
mkfs.reiser, mkfs.vfat, mknod, mkpasswd, mkswap, mktemp, modprobe,
more, mount, mountpoint, msh, mt, mv, nameif, nc, netstat, nice,
nmeter, nohup, nslookup, ntpd, od, openvt, passwd, patch, pgrep, pidof,
ping, ping6, pipe_progress, pivot_root, pkill, popmaildir, poweroff,
printenv, printf, ps, pscan, pwd, raidautorun, rdate, rdev, readahead,
readlink, readprofile, realpath, reboot, reformime, renice, reset,
resize, rm, rmdir, rmmod, route, rpm, rpm2cpio, rtcwake, run-parts,
runlevel, runsv, runsvdir, rx, script, scriptreplay, sed, sendmail,
seq, setarch, setconsole, setfont, setkeycodes, setlogcons, setsid,
setuidgid, sh, sha1sum, sha256sum, sha512sum, showkey, slattach, sleep,
softlimit, sort, split, start-stop-daemon, stat, strings, stty, su,
sulogin, sum, sv, svlogd, swapoff, swapon, switch_root, sync, sysctl,
syslogd, tac, tail, tar, taskset, tcpsvd, tee, telnet, telnetd, test,
tftp, tftpd, time, timeout, top, touch, tr, traceroute, traceroute6,
true, tty, ttysize, tunctl, tune2fs, udhcpc, udhcpd, udpsvd, umount,
uname, uncompress, unexpand, uniq, unix2dos, unlzma, unlzop, unzip,
uptime, usleep, uudecode, uuencode, vconfig, vi, vlock, volname, wall,
watch, watchdog, wc, wget, which, who, whoami, xargs, yes, zcat, zcip
- acpid, adjtimex, arp, arping, bbconfig, beep, brctl, catv, chpasswd, chpst, chrt, cryptpw, cttyhack, devfsd, devmem, dhcprelay, dnsdomainname, dpkg, dumpleases, envdir, envuidgid, ether-wake, fakeidentd, FALSE, fbsplash, flashcp, flash_eraseall, flash_lock, flash_unlock, fsync, ftpd, httpd, hush, ifenslave, inetd, ionice, ipcrm, ipcs, kbd_mode, killall5, lash, length, linux32, linux64, lpd, lsusb, lzmacat, lzop, lzopcat, makemime, mdev, microcom, mkfs.reiser, mkpasswd, mountpoint, msh, mt, nmeter, ntpd, pgrep, pkill, popmaildir, printenv, pscan, raidautorun, readahead, readprofile, reformime, resize, rtcwake, run-parts, runsv, runsvdir, rx, script, scriptreplay, sendmail, setarch, setconsole, setlogcons, setuidgid, sha1sum, slattach, softlimit, start-stop-daemon, sum, sv, svlogd, taskset, tcpsvd, telnetd, tftpd, traceroute6, TRUE, ttysize, tunctl, udhcpc, udhcpd, udpsvd, unexpand, unlzop, vconfig, vi, wall, watch, watchdog, who, zcip
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So I got the panel to create a save file this time.Béèm wrote:As the problems I had were so weird and as I didn't find a md5sum to verify if the download was done correctly, I decided to download again.
Either in the meantime the iso has been updated or I had indeed a bad download, but this time I got all the good questions on pfix=ram.
And I am in xorg
Just have to see if I get the proposal to create a save file.
But: altho I defined my keyboard to be Belgium, it stayed in us.
I redid the config through the control panel, but to no avail, still us.
Finally I edited xorg.conf and changed us to be.
I am in Belgian now.
I suppose I better open an incident in the bug track system for this.
Hopefully there is a follow up, as for other puppies I used a bug track system, already but never saw any activity.
But when I rebooted, only the trash had the correct icons. The others surrounding not. Another incident to be made so.
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Hi technosaurus,
Using Stardust-012, I converted my pupsave-431_2.2fs to 3fs and modified the initrd.gz file so that the pupsave-431_2.3fs will mount properly as a journaled file system on my ext3 partition. They are working great. I hope that you are considering having options to create pupsaves as 2/3/4fs with the corresponding changes to the initrd.gz so they will mount properly as journaled file systems on ext3/4.
Thanks,
Jim
Using Stardust-012, I converted my pupsave-431_2.2fs to 3fs and modified the initrd.gz file so that the pupsave-431_2.3fs will mount properly as a journaled file system on my ext3 partition. They are working great. I hope that you are considering having options to create pupsaves as 2/3/4fs with the corresponding changes to the initrd.gz so they will mount properly as journaled file systems on ext3/4.
Thanks,
Jim