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PostPosted: Mon 01 Mar 2010, 21:05    Post subject:  

ICPUG wrote:
abushcrafter

Thanks for the info re GTKHash. I see it on the menu now.

I was looking for sha1sum in the past because that was supposed to be an inbuilt linux command line tool.


some puppies don't have Gtkhash, but you can get it from
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=32700

and since Gtkhash I've switched to ghash its smaller and faster
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=372415#372415
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Mar 2010, 23:54    Post subject: Which Searchmonkey?  

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technosaurus,
this searchmonkey or the yahoo project?
searchmonkey-0.8.1-i486.pet


This is the one I like.

Refer you to Barry's Blog;

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01269
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Mar 2010, 00:06    Post subject: Re: Which Searchmonkey?  

bigpup wrote:
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technosaurus,
this searchmonkey or the yahoo project?
searchmonkey-0.8.1-i486.pet


This is the one I like.

Refer you to Barry's Blog;

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01269

Yes I like also, it did have a few crashing issues with some 5 series I think it was last year. But its stable on 2.14X. and 4 series
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy//viewtopic.php?t=41486
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FlyingRedGoat

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Mar 2010, 00:08    Post subject:    

Just gave 4.4 a whirl.

I like it. Smile

As noted on the stardust thread, some of the icons in the upper bar disappear when the green background color is selected. It may be possible to outline the icons with a contrasting color (as subtitles are done now days).

The bright yellow background with white letters was blinding (petget). Cool At the very least it should come with a warning. Laughing

Xorg worked like the other puppies, I haven't tried vesa yet.

The widget analog clock never displayed.

I like having some doc files included. It helps when working with newbies like me. Wink

I do have a suggestion. People frequently call me to ask what a particular pet does when they are using petget. Is it possible to add a description for future pets?

Also, is it possible to add different backgrounds to the different desktops? I get lost sometimes. Embarassed

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Mar 2010, 01:56    Post subject:  

abiword updated for spell check... this time built with goffice, gfs and gio as dependencies for interoperability with gnumeric 1.10.0

the main binary is so large because of the many builtin plugins
    --enable-builtin-plugins="applix babelfish bmp clarisworks docbook eml freetranslation gdict gimp google hancom hrtext iscii kword latex loadbindings mif opendocument openwriter openxml opml paint passepartout pdb pdf presentation s5 sdw t602 urldict wikipedia wml xslfo"

    --enable-plugins="aiksaurus collab garble goffice grammar mht ots psion wmf wordperfect wpg mswrite"
    Aside from aiksaurus, these were built against their corresponding static libs because nothing else

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Mar 2010, 02:15    Post subject:  

FlyingRedGoat wrote:


As noted on the stardust thread, some of the icons in the upper bar disappear when the green background color is selected. It may be possible to outline the icons with a contrasting color (as subtitles are done now days).

The widget analog clock never displayed.

Also, is it possible to add different backgrounds to the different desktops? I get lost sometimes. Embarassed

the icons and clock are probably issues with the stardust installer - starting with pfix=ram is reported to fix the issues with the missing icons but the dim icons should be fixed with stardust 12

I can set up different backgrounds with jwm, but not rox AFAIK - so you could turn off pinboard support in the ROX options menu but you would also lose icons ... here is a thread for using jwm for multiple backgrounds and to hack some pseudo icons (via tray buttons)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51200
I'd like to add this as an option if possible to reduce resources.

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Mar 2010, 05:42    Post subject: SSL support  

I have a program which needs SSL.
As the program doesn't work, I suppose there is no SSL support in 4.4.
Would it be possible to add it or else indicate where to find?
(I looked in PPM, but didn't find it there with the search facility)

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Mar 2010, 11:48    Post subject:
Subject description: NumLock
 

technosaurus,
On a previous page, I requested that you consider adding the capability to Mouse/Keyboard Settings in the Puppy Control Center, an option to turn the NumLock key on/off. I made the same request on the Stardust thread and zigbert wanted more information. My reply is here for your consideration also.
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Mar 2010, 13:22    Post subject:  

technosaurus wrote:

the icons and clock are probably issues with the stardust installer - starting with pfix=ram is reported to fix the issues with the missing icons but the dim icons should be fixed with stardust 12

I can set up different backgrounds with jwm, but not rox AFAIK - so you could turn off pinboard support in the ROX options menu but you would also lose icons ... here is a thread for using jwm for multiple backgrounds and to hack some pseudo icons (via tray buttons)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51200
I'd like to add this as an option if possible to reduce resources.


Thanks for the link. I see why it's not done now. It would be a bad trade. It would be a nice option though. Much appreciated.

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Mar 2010, 20:27    Post subject: adding sfs files with bootmanager  

Just for information.

With success I added OOo 3.01, Wine 1.1.20 and pidgin 2.6.1 and can use the programs, included the programs installed in wine. I keep these wine programs outside the save file, so I can use them in any puppy I use.

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Mar 2010, 17:50    Post subject:  

So, just to put it out there I have done some testing of various email programs and the recently released Sylpheed-3.0.0 seemed excellent - better than Seamonkey mail in my opinion... I also tested Abiword's html capabilities and they are now comparable to Seamonkey composer. This should give us a net savings on space (~1-2MB) and provide better functionality via firefox and its addons.

I have been having some compatibility issues trying to get a working Firefox-3.6 maybe due to the updated cairo, but that is just speculation.

I have compiled hunspell which is what firefox uses for spell check (it can also --enable-system-hunspell for reduced size) and is also usable by enchant for abiword, ayttm and many other programs with spell check, and has the most international support (probably because open office uses it too)
... also the updated sqlite included should be sufficient for --with-system-sqlite and the png-1.2.40 library has been patch for apng (animated), so that should work as well .

I'll upload a compile of Sylpheed (and gtkspell) tonight, but would be interested in the config options or tricks/hacks to get a working Firefox-3.6 or info about the latest version that is stable on Puppy.

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Mar 2010, 19:12    Post subject:  

Altho I prefer suite type of programs, I downloaded the FF 3.6 tar.bz2 and installed in a directory outside my pupsave file.
I saw I had the missing libdus.... libraries and installed them.
After that FF did run. I didn't do extensive browsing.

In this way FF is available for other puppies as well.

All this has taken some 5 minutes.

I had used this way of installing already for SeaMonkey 2.0.3

As much as possible I try to use this way of installing.

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Mar 2010, 19:40    Post subject:  

Béèm wrote:
Altho I prefer suite type of programs, I downloaded the FF 3.6 tar.bz2 and installed in a directory outside my pupsave file.
I saw I had the missing libdus.... libraries and installed them.
After that FF did run. I didn't do extensive browsing.
In this way FF is available for other puppies as well....

I assume that you set up a Firefox directory at mnt/home. What links or changes are needed in the pupsave for it to be used properly?
Thanks,
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Mar 2010, 21:46    Post subject:  

posting from my previously compiled firefox-3.6 it turns out that the --enable-chrome-format=symlink caused the chrome directory to get borked so I unzipped the jar files from the official build as directories of the same name into the chrome directory and viola - it works as if I had --enable-chrome-format=flat (this will allow better theming and changes to the interface and we can do symlinks manually using rdfind)


./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --build=i486-t2-linux-gnu --enable-application=browser --enable-optimize=-Os --disable-update-channel --disable-update-packaging --disable-debug --disable-tests --enable-strip --with-system-jpeg --with-system-bz2 --with-system-png --with-system-zlib --enable-system-sqlite --enable-xul --disable-glibtest --enable-system-cairo --enable-system-hunspell --disable-accessibility --disable-crash-reporter --enable-chrome-format=symlink --disable-dbus --disable-libnotify --no-create --no-recursion

Note: /usr/lib/firefox-3.6/defaults/profile/bookmarks.html <<<contains the default bookmarks

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Mar 2010, 23:44    Post subject:  

Hi techn as FF3.6 goes why not use the default version, if its because of themes, you can rename the jar files to zip, and extract them, then change the images and zip the folders and rename to jar and it should be good, The latest default 3 series has been extremely fast & stable on 2.14X for over a year, plus it auto updates out of the box, saves compiling. Seamonkey used to be a pain all the time, users always wanted the latest version etc to be compiled. But Mozilla's precompiled Firefox on the other hand works out of the box on puppy with only 2 deps needed, dbus and dbus-glib.
also if your installing Firefox as default in this puppy, you'll have to fix Cups and actual printing on FF3 series is broke for some users, so luckily if you install this package below it will all be fixed. gtklp is what fixes when you replace lpr with the one included in this package.
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