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artifus


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PostPosted: Sat 15 Jan 2011, 13:30    Post_subject:  
postfs1 wrote:
amigo wrote:
@postfs1 Are you a bot?

A)http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/posting.php?p=486687#486687(LAST SENTENCE)

B)One of the created by me topics with the links onto created by me youtube channel was deleted some time ago on this forum. That topic was here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/index.php?f=63
Youtube.com is not for bots i guess.

C)For final assurance, you can try to make a real donation to me, i.e. like a pedestrians do. Laughing It was a joke.


i'm still not convinced and demand a turing test!

*edit*

and if i'm still not satisfied then maybe even a Voight-Kampff test!!
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Jan 2011, 13:50    Post_subject:  
Wow, what a tester!
Arrow
Here was a link to the one video episode about Borat Sagdiyev.
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Jan 2011, 13:58    Post_subject:  
postfs1 wrote:
Wow, what a tester!
Arrow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liRSXULdJw4


and what is this?

Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun 16 Jan 2011, 06:38    Post_subject:  
amigo wrote:
@postfs1 Are you a bot?

It's won't be a surprise for me if every human personage is under military bot command. For uglified turd it's not a problem to maintain it and realistically. I have an evidence, but it gives only one type of protection - the orientation.
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PostPosted: Sun 16 Jan 2011, 09:06    Post_subject:  
Actually, postfs1 is one of my favorite posters. Don't always understand what he's talking about, but it's always creative. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun 16 Jan 2011, 13:18    Post_subject:  
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Actually, postfs1 is one of my favorite posters. Don't always understand what he's talking about, but it's always creative.


is there an app for that?
Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Jan 2011, 00:05    Post_subject:  
Here is most of a message I received by hushmail
and had to answer a secret message just to access
- oh boy . . .
https://www.hushmail.com/

Quote:
install kalgebra_4.4.2 using the "Puppy Package Manager". The
download

went OK.

However, when I started to check (examine) dependencies as
recommended,

the thing started to search all my hard disks WHICH WERE NOT
MOUNTED.

Alarmed, I immediately killed the network power and thought "What
is going on? Is there some spyware built into the system, someone
utilizing a vulnerably, or
a bug in the system?"
I have been using Puppy for some months and was starting to really
like

what I thought was a pretty secure system that would not allow
access to

my hard disks when I was connected to the web, so I am pretty
disappointed
that I now have to run it on a system without any hard disks to
feel safe.

Since you seem to be involved in the development of Puppy and I
found a post from you on the "Forum index » Off-Topic Area »
Security" page, I thought that you would be trustworthy and at
least know who to contact if a vulnerably needs fixing.


I wouldn't trust myself with a tin of sardines.
Let us hope it is something serious so the security buffs have something
to panic over . . . Cool
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Jan 2011, 01:43    Post_subject:  
Lobster wrote:
Here is most of a message I received by hushmail
...

Quote:
install kalgebra_4.4.2 using the "Puppy Package Manager". The
download

went OK.

However, when I started to check (examine) dependencies as
recommended,

the thing started to search all my hard disks WHICH WERE NOT
MOUNTED.

...
Since you seem to be involved in the development of Puppy and I
found a post from you on the "Forum index » Off-Topic Area »
Security" page, I thought that you would be trustworthy and at
least know who to contact if a vulnerably needs fixing.


I wouldn't trust myself with a tin of sardines.
Let us hope it is something serious so the security buffs have something
to panic over . . . Cool


Come on Lobster. You didn't even check out his report by trying the install yourself. What kind sleuth are you?

Surely when you shoulder the mantle of the paranoiac, you have to take on some responsibility. It seems to me that the correspondent who confided in you deserves better, as do your rapt readers, among them yours truly.
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PostPosted: Tue 25 Jan 2011, 03:45    Post_subject:  
Quote:
It seems to me

If adopting paranoid mantles I would not trust my opinions - let alone anyone elses . . . Wink

Meanwhile . . . if running Puppy Lucid (you need the Ubuntu compatibility), those wishing to play detective and try Zenmap can get it here:
http://portablelinuxapps.org/
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Feb 2011, 05:43    Post_subject:  
Hi guys,

Paranoia can strike any time. Whilst answering another thread
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=492300#492300
I suddenly felt the need to install a secure OS.
I was thinking of either Pardus or Open-BSD
However Pardus was started by Turkey Govt security services.
If they had the sense they were born with, they would compromise the system,
release that for the rest of Turkey and the world and harden their version.
So not that.

Open-BSD next version should be out in a week or two.
I did not have or feel too interested in creating a primary partition.
Also my plans for world domination are perhaps best aired publicly . . .
Open-BSD will be slower than Puppy, probably too slow.
Maybe I need a tail?
https://amnesia.boum.org/download/

Paranoia v apathy?
Apathy wins Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Feb 2011, 17:43    Post_subject:  
BSD has a FBI back-door Crying or Very sad. Can't remember the source of this info. Might have been this forum.
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Feb 2011, 20:25    Post_subject:  
Yes we had a link to it in security or maybe in offtopic.
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Feb 2011, 22:38    Post_subject:  
Here is some info about Open BSD
Did not realise they were funded by Darpa for a while
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20025767-281.html

Rather than a Puppy security audit,
I am wondering what weird and wonderful security measures to employ
for the fretful?

Ideas by carrier pigeon to the usual location

Puppy Linux
Less secure than Open BSD
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Feb 2011, 00:22    Post_subject:  
In my Black Ops Puppy (BOP) efforts Shocked
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=492700#492700
came across some interesting tips
Backtrack Linux users (grey hat crackers)
run as root, especially if running from live DVD
. . . and they are professionally paranoid . . .

For pre-emptive security, attack your own system with attackpup
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=421022#421022

Right click on the internet connection icon (bottom right)
and disconnect/or connect to the Internet at will (works in Lucid 5.2)
I was going to write a program to do this
but it exists for always on connections . . .
Obvious security measure really Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Thu 10 Feb 2011, 02:26    Post_subject:  
One-Stop TOR-Browser (everything included in this one package--based on Firefox)
Surf Anonymously

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=494297#494297
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