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#106 Post by artifus »

postfs1 wrote:
amigo wrote:@postfs1 Are you a bot?
A)http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/postin ... 687#486687(LAST SENTENCE)

B)One of the created by me topics with the links onto created by me youtube channel was deleted some time ago on this forum. That topic was here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/index.php?f=63
Youtube.com is not for bots i guess.

C)For final assurance, you can try to make a real donation to me, i.e. like a pedestrians do. :lol: It was a joke.
i'm still not convinced and demand a turing test!

*edit*

and if i'm still not satisfied then maybe even a Voight-Kampff test!!

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To reedit up to date.
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#108 Post by artifus »

postfs1 wrote:Wow, what a tester!
:arrow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liRSXULdJw4
and what is this?

:lol:

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#110 Post by l0wt3ch »

Actually, postfs1 is one of my favorite posters. Don't always understand what he's talking about, but it's always creative. :D

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#111 Post by artifus »

Actually, postfs1 is one of my favorite posters. Don't always understand what he's talking about, but it's always creative.
is there an app for that?
:lol:

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#112 Post by Lobster »

Here is most of a message I received by hushmail
and had to answer a secret message just to access
- oh boy . . .
https://www.hushmail.com/
install kalgebra_4.4.2 using the "Puppy Package Manager". The
download

went OK.

However, when I started to check (examine) dependencies as
recommended,

the thing started to search all my hard disks WHICH WERE NOT
MOUNTED.

Alarmed, I immediately killed the network power and thought "What
is going on? Is there some spyware built into the system, someone
utilizing a vulnerably, or
a bug in the system?"
I have been using Puppy for some months and was starting to really
like

what I thought was a pretty secure system that would not allow
access to

my hard disks when I was connected to the web, so I am pretty
disappointed
that I now have to run it on a system without any hard disks to
feel safe.

Since you seem to be involved in the development of Puppy and I
found a post from you on the "Forum index » Off-Topic Area »
Security" page, I thought that you would be trustworthy and at
least know who to contact if a vulnerably needs fixing.
I wouldn't trust myself with a tin of sardines.
Let us hope it is something serious so the security buffs have something
to panic over . . . 8)
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#113 Post by otropogo »

Lobster wrote:Here is most of a message I received by hushmail
...
install kalgebra_4.4.2 using the "Puppy Package Manager". The
download

went OK.

However, when I started to check (examine) dependencies as
recommended,

the thing started to search all my hard disks WHICH WERE NOT
MOUNTED.

...
Since you seem to be involved in the development of Puppy and I
found a post from you on the "Forum index » Off-Topic Area »
Security" page, I thought that you would be trustworthy and at
least know who to contact if a vulnerably needs fixing.
I wouldn't trust myself with a tin of sardines.
Let us hope it is something serious so the security buffs have something
to panic over . . . 8)
Come on Lobster. You didn't even check out his report by trying the install yourself. What kind sleuth are you?

Surely when you shoulder the mantle of the paranoiac, you have to take on some responsibility. It seems to me that the correspondent who confided in you deserves better, as do your rapt readers, among them yours truly.
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#114 Post by Lobster »

It seems to me
If adopting paranoid mantles I would not trust my opinions - let alone anyone elses . . . :wink:

Meanwhile . . . if running Puppy Lucid (you need the Ubuntu compatibility), those wishing to play detective and try Zenmap can get it here:
http://portablelinuxapps.org/
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#115 Post by Lobster »

Hi guys,

Paranoia can strike any time. Whilst answering another thread
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 300#492300
I suddenly felt the need to install a secure OS.
I was thinking of either Pardus or Open-BSD
However Pardus was started by Turkey Govt security services.
If they had the sense they were born with, they would compromise the system,
release that for the rest of Turkey and the world and harden their version.
So not that.

Open-BSD next version should be out in a week or two.
I did not have or feel too interested in creating a primary partition.
Also my plans for world domination are perhaps best aired publicly . . .
Open-BSD will be slower than Puppy, probably too slow.
Maybe I need a tail?
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Paranoia v apathy?
Apathy wins :roll:
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#116 Post by abushcrafter »

BSD has a FBI back-door :cry:. Can't remember the source of this info. Might have been this forum.
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#117 Post by nooby »

Yes we had a link to it in security or maybe in offtopic.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#118 Post by Lobster »

Here is some info about Open BSD
Did not realise they were funded by Darpa for a while
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20025767-281.html

Rather than a Puppy security audit,
I am wondering what weird and wonderful security measures to employ
for the fretful?

Ideas by carrier pigeon to the usual location

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#119 Post by Lobster »

In my Black Ops Puppy (BOP) efforts :shock:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 700#492700
came across some interesting tips
Backtrack Linux users (grey hat crackers)
run as root, especially if running from live DVD
. . . and they are professionally paranoid . . .

For pre-emptive security, attack your own system with attackpup
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 022#421022

Right click on the internet connection icon (bottom right)
and disconnect/or connect to the Internet at will (works in Lucid 5.2)
I was going to write a program to do this
but it exists for always on connections . . .
Obvious security measure really :roll:

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#120 Post by Lobster »

One-Stop TOR-Browser (everything included in this one package--based on Firefox)
Surf Anonymously

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 297#494297
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#121 Post by Lobster »

For those not adopting the 'back to modem' or 'always off' internet connection
methodology, here is how flash, available in Puppy and PDF,
also available, is the new point of attack . . .

http://www.anewmorning.com/2011/02/17/a ... fographic/

Frets, threats and solutions to the usual drop point . . .

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#122 Post by Lobster »

Polygraph Technician: This is a control question, a riddle really. How would you say would be the easiest way to take a weapon away from a Grammaton Cleric?
Brandt: [speaks into Preston's ear] You ask him for it.
That is from the film 'Equilibrium' with its outrageous but fun Gun-Fu

Let us apply it to the current time . . .
Them - How do you find out what people are doing and thinking?
Puppy Whisper - You ask them.


Simple really. Facebook rises. Is insecure. Job done.
The new generation shares and blogs without privacy concerns.
Transparency is the new norm. Are you raising suspicion by not having a social network account? :roll:
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#123 Post by Lobster »

bacofoil = proprietary tinfoil used by tin hats

I am a great believer in preemtive paranoia.
Get them before they are after you. :)

Of course I am not crazy enough to implement this system which
I call the 'triple dorje' but the idea may be sound:

This is the system I would implement if I ran out of bacofoil.
Requires 3 computers. Each connected to the router, each secure.
Maybe it could be done with Virtual Box.
I would then swap between the three computers, perhaps generating spurious
noise from two machines . . .
Yeah too crazy - I know . . . :roll:

But maybe it is possible to write a macro that simulates
usage, whilst implementing an underlying 'world domination communication' node . . .

This week we got line crackle and had to have a new line installed to the telegraph poles (still used in parts of London) This carries both the telephone line and broadband. Our old line was about 30 years old and exposed to the elements and had corroded. It all sounded very plausible. Probably because it was.
Come to think of it we are one of the few streets that does not have cable. Why? Must find more bacofoil whilst I contemplate the answer . . . :wink:
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#124 Post by Lobster »

Being truly paranoid one has to worry about operating systems one is not even running

This on security breach on Android OS
http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/05/androi ... -response/

Eventually I intend to be running Android or its descendent as a brain implant,
so am a little concerned at the remote kill precedent - a good thing for now . . .

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#125 Post by Lobster »

Electromagnetic pulses can fry our electronics temporarily.
A multisession Puppy can get us up and running again
with our data intact.
Would hard drives and solid state devices survive?
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