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#46 Post by Lobster »

Nothing to worry about? :shock:

Have no fear
here is some FUD:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 465#427465

Incidentally the only thing
known to consistently crash Puppy is
Adobe Flash (Steve Jobs may be right
to exclude them from the Ipad - though
other considerations are going on too)

For those who are trying to wean themselves off
the paranoid brain. Try turning off the firewall for an hour
(you can do it!) :?
Puppy ran for its initial years with no firewalls
and was safe. 8)
Without a firewall, what might happen?
The evil 'they' might not do anything . . .
Best not take any chances?
Reinforced tin-foil hats all around . . . :D

Lately I have been using a Puppy
that downloads files as a secured user (Spot)
into a secret location of my choice.
I can not tell you which version of Puppy
because then you would worry that your
version does not do that.
Hey - you need to worry to be a paranoid
So I will tell you
Puppy Fatdog64
Only works on 64bit computers
Oh you 32bit paranoids should be scared now . . . :roll:


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#47 Post by KF6SNJ »

I'd be scared if I had the time to do so.
The only windows I have are those on my home.

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#48 Post by Lobster »

Open Chromium
click on the spanner
under the bonnet
content settings
cookies
adobe flash settings

What is all that about?

Google is keeping an eye on you
Adobe Flash is a full programming language . . .
and 'they' are watching you
Looks like an advanced sort of cooky to me
(probably in preparation for GoogleTV)

Someone pass the bacofoil . . . :shock:
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#49 Post by Lobster »

Spyware for kiddies?
http://www.salon.com/technology/col/gar ... 5/brodcast

I was just phoned by a company 'Accident Helpline'
claiming an accident had been witnessed outside my home.
They reluctantly gave their address as 'Central London'
Sorry I need specifics before I talk to anyone
I am unsure of, they hung up as I was not cooperating with whatever scam script they were promoting.
Mind you I was kind to the Jehovah's Witnesses
who called this morning - telling them I was a Buddhist
rather than a Satanist. They were elderly and too much excitement might cause the end of their world. :wink:

As adults we can deal with these scams

Cyber vested interests are gaining access to
kids.
We have to be paranoid for them
as they do not have the capacity.

Keep your fledgling penguins safe.
Allow them to use Puppy.

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#50 Post by Lobster »

:)

I am happy (for our tin hats) to provide the Puppy IRC conspiracy
It probably does not exist but who knows?

I was happily using IRC in Puppy Lucid 5.1 (Beta3 509)
when I was kicked off (I think)
and could not get back in

I can no longer connect to the IRC Puppy channel
even with a change of software
Could it be part of this:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 543#439543

It might just be a bug
but I think our tin foil hats deserve a real conspiracy
to get their worry beads into . . .

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#51 Post by shariebeth »

Lobster wrote::)

I am happy (for our tin hats) to provide the Puppy IRC conspiracy
It probably does not exist but who knows?

I was happily using IRC in Puppy Lucid 5.1 (Beta3 509)
when I was kicked off (I think)
and could not get back in

I can no longer connect to the IRC Puppy channel
even with a change of software
Could it be part of this:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 543#439543

It might just be a bug
but I think our tin foil hats deserve a real conspiracy
to get their worry beads into . . .

8)
Ehhm it was most likely a server hiccup. Multiple people had the same problem around the same time. Try again. If it still won't work, maybe choose a different server to connect through.
Try this list:
http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml

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#52 Post by Lobster »

Ehhm it was most likely a server hiccup.
No paranoia feeding for tin hats today
. . . ah well . . . :roll:

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#53 Post by Lobster »

Cars hacked through wireless tire sensors
http://arstechnica.com/security/news/20 ... ensors.ars

. . . not even safe in your car . . . :wink:
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#54 Post by Stripe »

Hi Lobster

Well at least our operating systems are not sending personal information to mr gates.
Could not block it in W*****S 7 so stopped using it.
Read some alarming stories about government monitoring (UK)
Is there anything that can be done to remain private from google?
Pass the tin foil hat please
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#55 Post by Lobster »

Is there anything that can be done to remain private from google?
http://scroogle.org/
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#56 Post by Lobster »

In my continuing efforts to find something (rather than the usual nothing) for our intrepid tin hats to concern themselves with . . .
I have noticed that Firefox has somehow decided to go to http://bi/ every time it starts up . . .
The message 'It works' comes up on screen . . .

What works? I close the tab and it comes back next Firefox start.
Am I being foxed by the fox? It does not work for me
- so who are 'they' working for? :roll:
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#57 Post by Stripe »

Thanks Lobster

I thought scroogle was no more

Cheers
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#58 Post by jpeps »

Stripe wrote:Thanks Lobster

I thought scroogle was no more

Cheers
Stripe
With scroogle there's no options panel on the left side (timeline, etc, etc) and the links contain all the same analytics, etc, anyway...so what's the point? I'm liking Ghostery, where I can block them.

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#59 Post by Lobster »

Some facts to keep you paranoid (if required)
http://www.wordstream.com/articles/goog ... et-privacy
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#60 Post by jpeps »

Lobster wrote:Some facts to keep you paranoid (if required)
http://www.wordstream.com/articles/goog ... et-privacy
Trackers on above link:

CrazyEgg
DemandBase
Google Analytics
LeadLander
WordStream
TweetMeme

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#61 Post by dawg »

8-bit wrote:my IO seems to have slowed up greatly upon initial access to drives from the desktop.
Rox is taking a lot longer to come up.
After it is up, it works fine.
But if I exit ROX and then start ROX again, the lag reappears.
I might try reverting to a saved pupsave file to see if the problem persists.
Other frugal installs of Puppy do not seem to have that lag when starting ROX and I did not run the programs to check for a rootkit on them.
EDIT:
After posting this, no more message and IO improved with ROX.
I've some similar "paranoia" (or let's rather call it reasonable suspiciousness) for you guys.
I've just discovered this:
When a network interface is setup but there's no internet connection, the startup of ROX and Firefox lag (I've all update checks in FF unselected). This seems to also be the case in older pups (431).
I've checked my router's log (LinkSys BEFSR41) and it isn't displaying anything of interest, but clearly there is something going on here.
Exactly why & what would that be, I wonder??

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#62 Post by Lobster »

Image
Exactly why & what would that be, I wonder??
I don't know :oops:
But I can make up all kinds of stories . . . :roll:

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#63 Post by dawg »

:D

Well, now that I've taken the time to test it more properly, this behaviour only seems present when one particular 510 savefile is loaded and also in a 431 full install of mine, so no reason for a global panic just yet :)
Anyhow, this must be a rather new phenomenon, since with my somewhat common practice of disconnecting network cables, I think I would've noticed something sooner. So I'm guessing I must've caught something very recently, possibly here on the forum, only what that would be and how, I've yet to find out. Any ideas are welcome...

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#64 Post by dawg »

False alarm; nothing "caught" anywhere (which is nice).
Apparently the problem was my custom /etc/hosts file not defining the same hostname for 127.0.0.1 as in /etc/hostname :)

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#65 Post by Lobster »

dawg wrote:False alarm; nothing "caught"
Oh well we live in hope/dismay [choose preference] :)

Meanwhile I have found a potential tin hat field day

A Linux BSOD - oh I can hear the tin foil rustling as we speak . . . :wink:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 119#443119

In fact this is total - A Black Screen Of Death
Total lock up - Nada, rien, neti neti,

My theories:

- Interfence from the paradox realm - 'The Chronology Protection Agency'
- An AI JHVW created by the future Catholic Church and hacking into the past, to stop me worshiping elephants (now in day 22 of my Ganesh practice)
- Some sort of software bug [surely it can't be that?]

Other conspiracies in an email to the usual encrypted address . . .

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