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Is Puppy your favorite distro?
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RetroTechGuy


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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 14:35    Post_subject:  

racepres wrote:
RetroTechGuy wrote:
[I still plan to install Debian, hoping that it is less painful than the last time I did an install...)


I pretty much am stuck w/ debian on my macs, or at least left out of the "kennel". And I can tell ya.... You'll be back, to the Puppy, that is. While not that difficult to install, it just aint Puppy!!
RP
BTW xfce gives me the best "debian experience".


I'm figuring Debian just for those occasional operations requiring more horsepower than I'll find under Puppy. I suspect that for day-to-day use, I'll stick with the Pup.

Though I need to do some digging in the Puppy CD -- I really want to modify it so that by default it performs "fsck" on the pupsave, on boot...

(I've already set my Frugal to do so, but I want a bootable CD that I can give to Newbies, that will keep them from running into file system corruption).
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 15:08    Post_subject:  

RetroTechGuy wrote:


I'm figuring Debian just for those occasional operations requiring more horsepower than I'll find under Puppy. .

I'll be surprised.
gFTP, works as well on Puppy as on any distro.
Seamonkey, as an HTML editor, is the same.
Firefox 3.6 seems universal. [even on the MacOS]
Gimp is fully functional
Cups is printing to my ID card maker under puppy/cups!!! [wow]
If I get wine figured out I might even get filemaker pro going... That's a maybe.
The only thing I can't do currently [on anything But Windoze] is my cutter plotter
Plenty of Power for my needs. tho admittedly I don't do video editing and the like so... this is Not all-encompasssing.
Just My Experience.
RP
Oh ! I did forget Open office, works dandy... but I don't use that.. The Bitter Half does all that typin' stuff!! Yes with Puppy!
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RetroTechGuy


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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 15:14    Post_subject:  

racepres wrote:
RetroTechGuy wrote:


I'm figuring Debian just for those occasional operations requiring more horsepower than I'll find under Puppy. .

I'll be surprised.
gFTP, works as well on Puppy as on any distro.
Seamonkey, as an HTML editor, is the same.
Firefox 3.6 seems universal. [even on the MacOS]
Gimp is fully functional
Cups is printing to my ID card maker under puppy/cups!!! [wow]
If I get wine figured out I might even get filemaker pro going... That's a maybe.
The only thing I can't do currently [on anything But Windoze] is my cutter plotter
Plenty of Power for my needs. tho admittedly I don't do video editing and the like so... this is Not all-encompasssing.
Just My Experience.
RP


I have a PVR (old computer with a TV capture card), and so I do a bit of video editing -- a task that I'm not sure Puppy is up to...

I also don't know if I can get that Windoze software to run under Linux (either under wine, or under a virtual machine -- but it does run under Win98...and I'm pretty sure that I can get Debian to run a virtual Win98 box, if necessary...)
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 15:15    Post_subject:  

Gotcha! Hope it works for you... I know less than zero, abt that..
RP
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 15:19    Post_subject:  

racepres wrote:
Gotcha! Hope it works for you... I know less than zero, abt that..
RP


I get chuckling, thinking about making my Win98 system a virtual box sitting under Linux...

It's getting hard to find hardware old enough to be supported by Win98 -- if I can make a virtual machine...I can bypass the hardware support issue. It may also be useful for me at work.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 15:26    Post_subject:  

RetroTechGuy wrote:

It's getting hard to find hardware old enough to be supported by Win98 --

Now That makes me chuckle.... Not around here It Aint Hard!!
Where did you say you was at anyway??
I'm wringing my hands , calculating shipping..LOL
RP
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 15:44    Post_subject:  

racepres wrote:
RetroTechGuy wrote:

It's getting hard to find hardware old enough to be supported by Win98 --

Now That makes me chuckle.... Not around here It Aint Hard!!
Where did you say you was at anyway??
I'm wringing my hands , calculating shipping..LOL
RP


I'm in the US. In fact, looks like I grew up not too far from you. Going to school there?

My newer machine is a 2200 Athlon (which is a few years old now). I had a hell of a time getting the appropriate Win98 drivers to make everything work (and I had a similar problem with my 900 Athlon -- the sound never did work quite right).

Now my "scrap pile" probably has lots of Win98 class machines (mostly ranging from 166 to 233 MHz). But realistically, Puppy needs a moderate amount of horsepower, in comparison (for whatever reason, it sometimes dogs down my 2200 MHz machine - rather annoying).
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 16:09    Post_subject:  

RetroTechGuy wrote:
Going to school there?

Now I'm really chuckling.. Naw My youngest is! Not at central tho... at Ferris. [we live exactly between them]

RetroTechGuy wrote:
Puppy needs a moderate amount of horsepower, in comparison (for whatever reason, it sometimes dogs down my 2200 MHz machine - rather annoying).

Now I am surprised! is it Firefox by chance? I am interested in what could cause a performance hit like that!
RP
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 16:21    Post_subject:  

racepres wrote:
RetroTechGuy wrote:
Going to school there?

Now I'm really chuckling.. Naw My youngest is! Not at central tho... at Ferris. [we live exactly between them]


I'm not exactly a spring chicken myself (being a quite bit more gray than my avatar... Wink )

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RetroTechGuy wrote:
Puppy needs a moderate amount of horsepower, in comparison (for whatever reason, it sometimes dogs down my 2200 MHz machine - rather annoying).

Now I am surprised! is it Firefox by chance? I am interested in what could cause a performance hit like that!
RP


Yup, seems to be primarily Firefox (though I often have Thunderbird open at the same time).

And when I check free memory, I generally have plenty...

What's interesting, is that my Win98 (well, that was limited to FF2.x) doesn't seem to show that slowdown. Nor does my XP, running FF3.6.

Seems to be something specific to the Linux (in the old days, Nyetscrape used to "memory leak" on me, so maybe this is a similar issue).

Hmmm... Maybe I need to try running the Win version under wine... Could be an interesting experiment.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 16:25    Post_subject:  

I don't know abt the windoze version, But, I noticed a change to the Good, when I went to FF3.6. I use it on all my pup's currently.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 16:38    Post_subject:  

racepres wrote:
I don't know abt the windoze version, But, I noticed a change to the Good, when I went to FF3.6. I use it on all my pup's currently.
RP


I'm running 3.6 (and also on my XP at work). I've been getting some rather strange behavior from time to time (mouse pointer completely disappears, entire FF session just disappears) -- I haven't determined if it is one of my plugins (e.g. Noscript, ABP, etc...)

Maybe I'll try disabling all of those and see what happens.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 17:00    Post_subject:  

Good idea maybe... I have not had those experiences w/ 3.6 at all.
RP
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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 18:12    Post_subject:  

Yes, narrowly over the other distro I use (Vector). I've been using both since 2006.

Other distros;

I like the look of AntiX although I haven't yet got it working properly on my machine.

Zenwalk used to be good but the recent versions have been hopeless on my machine, the same with Deli. Mint is good too but I can only just run it on my machine, and even then it's an old version (Mint 5, "Elyssa").

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar 2010, 18:38    Post_subject:  

bugman
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yes, yes, yes

occasionally i think i might give slackware another shot, and then i sit and watch it boot . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .



you missed something very important

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Joe Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Mar 2010, 07:23    Post_subject:  

Let's not forget the fact that Puppy has Portabase, a small but attractive app with all the features most people (including me) need from a flat-file database. No other Linux distro I'm aware of has anything like it (thanks Warren)

Even if there wasn't any other reason to choose Puppy, Portabase would be enough IMO (especially if you use your database a lot, as I do).

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