I posted about this on my blog, reproduced here:
Available here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... uirky-013/
The main purpose of this build is to test the rollback to Xorg 7.3.
I put in a small utility, 'report-video', though I found afterward that it doesn't work quite right. It's purpose is to help with reporting your setup if your video doesn't work quite right.
I would like to know what works, what doesn't. So far I have tested on three computers, my laptop that uses the 'intel' or 'i810' driver, a desktop PC with an Nvidia card that uses the 'nv' driver, and another that uses the 'openchrome' driver. All three work.
'report-video' doesn't report the screen resolution and color depth, so could you add that info when reporting please. There was some feedback in Quirky 010 about different results depending on whether 16-bit or 24-bit color depth is chosen -- I would very much like to know if those problems occur with this build.
The build uses the 2.6.30.5 kernel from Puppy 431.
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ATI OK
Using: - used Menu /System / Hardware Info and output to browser 
Somehow I had confidence that the graphics would work
(probably should have tested) and it did - at max res for my screen
Ran Firewall and connected to the Internet OK
The programs I tried including PupTV worked if a bit small
Changing desktop settings no problems
I could not record (from mic) with mhwavedit or precord despite changing settings
I might just give up on audio - could not get it working on my previous hardware - last time it worked that I remember was the 2.xx series
Be interested if others can record
Why has Quirky shot up in size for this release?
- 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+
ATI Technologies Inc RV710 [Radeon HD 435
Somehow I had confidence that the graphics would work
(probably should have tested) and it did - at max res for my screen
Ran Firewall and connected to the Internet OK
The programs I tried including PupTV worked if a bit small
Changing desktop settings no problems
I could not record (from mic) with mhwavedit or precord despite changing settings
I might just give up on audio - could not get it working on my previous hardware - last time it worked that I remember was the 2.xx series
Be interested if others can record
Why has Quirky shot up in size for this release?
Black icon background
I run Quirky under VMware. I propose to use virtual environment for testing to help reproduce bugs/special behavior in a standard h/w.
Problems found:
1. Quirky 013 still shows black icon background at 24 bits (vesa driver). It's OK at 16 bits.
2. When I tried to reconfigure to 16 bits using Xorgwizard, the screen became too small to display the selection buttons. Note that this problem may target virtual machines only.
See attachments.
Problems found:
1. Quirky 013 still shows black icon background at 24 bits (vesa driver). It's OK at 16 bits.
2. When I tried to reconfigure to 16 bits using Xorgwizard, the screen became too small to display the selection buttons. Note that this problem may target virtual machines only.
See attachments.
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I am booting from CD/DVD
I inadvertently booted up with the 008 version save file of Puppy
It tried to update and dumped me out to the command line
- this may be because I was using an Nvidia graphics driver at the time
Just running xorgwizard would probably have fixed it
Two 4.3.1 sfs were in my home partition (Xara and Open Office)
added and working without incident
I inadvertently booted up with the 008 version save file of Puppy
It tried to update and dumped me out to the command line
- this may be because I was using an Nvidia graphics driver at the time
Just running xorgwizard would probably have fixed it
Two 4.3.1 sfs were in my home partition (Xara and Open Office)
added and working without incident
Hi Barry
All 5 machines in my home I tested with Q-013 (either pfix=ram or off usb key no save file)
All booted and all connected with sns. All had black backgrounds with icons at 24 bit, ok at 16 bit
1. Main box, athlon 2100+ Radeon 9200Pro, fine with "radeon" driver
2. EEEpc 701SD, fine with "intel" driver
3. Old box, P3 coppermine 600, vanta video card, fine with "nv" driver
4. Son's Thinkpad R61e, GM965 Intel integrated graphics, epic fail after probing then testing, waited and waited.. never recovered from black screen, it was as if there were no keyboard either. Could do nothing, I think the test failed to run because sound was loaded. I hit the "off" button to do a hard reboot and got the acpid "woof".. normally if X fails to start for me it drops back to console. So X must have started?? But failed, got sound? Of course I couldn't grab anything, sorry.
5. Wife's Compaq Evo (thin desktop) Intel 82845G, almost the same result as Son's, except I skipped the test.
Vesa was fine on both. (Um, I was lucky to grab time on Son's and Wife's!)
HTH
Cheers
All 5 machines in my home I tested with Q-013 (either pfix=ram or off usb key no save file)
All booted and all connected with sns. All had black backgrounds with icons at 24 bit, ok at 16 bit
1. Main box, athlon 2100+ Radeon 9200Pro, fine with "radeon" driver
2. EEEpc 701SD, fine with "intel" driver
3. Old box, P3 coppermine 600, vanta video card, fine with "nv" driver
4. Son's Thinkpad R61e, GM965 Intel integrated graphics, epic fail after probing then testing, waited and waited.. never recovered from black screen, it was as if there were no keyboard either. Could do nothing, I think the test failed to run because sound was loaded. I hit the "off" button to do a hard reboot and got the acpid "woof".. normally if X fails to start for me it drops back to console. So X must have started?? But failed, got sound? Of course I couldn't grab anything, sorry.
5. Wife's Compaq Evo (thin desktop) Intel 82845G, almost the same result as Son's, except I skipped the test.
Vesa was fine on both. (Um, I was lucky to grab time on Son's and Wife's!)
HTH
Cheers
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I include the results of running top from the console
It may be of some use
I was hoping that Seamonkey (same is happening in Firefox
on Fatdog64) would run BBC Iplayer (that is Flash based I believe)
without crashing - no can do
Get 15 minutes of video and then tells me not enough broadband width (which is nonsense unless Linux is being capped by my ISP)
Works OK on Wii which uses wifi and Windows on another ethernet connection - so only Linux
I am not really smart enough to trace what and why this is happening
One last thing - the ATI card seemed to be retaining some residual graphic memory - which now seems gone (it would flash a unknown screen page briefly)
- maybe Quirky flushed it in some Quirky way . . .
It may be of some use
I was hoping that Seamonkey (same is happening in Firefox
on Fatdog64) would run BBC Iplayer (that is Flash based I believe)
without crashing - no can do
Get 15 minutes of video and then tells me not enough broadband width (which is nonsense unless Linux is being capped by my ISP)
Works OK on Wii which uses wifi and Windows on another ethernet connection - so only Linux
I am not really smart enough to trace what and why this is happening
One last thing - the ATI card seemed to be retaining some residual graphic memory - which now seems gone (it would flash a unknown screen page briefly)
- maybe Quirky flushed it in some Quirky way . . .
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Mem: 661192K used, 1412940K free, 0K shrd, 77072K buff, 512024K cached
CPU: 3% usr 0% sys 0% nic 95% idle 0% io 0% irq 0% sirq
Load average: 0.00 0.30 0.50 2/83 2480
PID PPID USER STAT VSZ %MEM CPU %CPU COMMAND
31032 31027 root S 80384 4% 1 2% /usr/lib/seamonkey-1.1.18/seamonkey-bin
30547 30546 root S < 39956 2% 1 1% X :0 -br -nolisten tcp
30611 30550 root S 13664 1% 0 0% retrovol -bg #DCDAF5
30550 30546 root S 6224 0% 1 0% jwm
31530 30606 root S 5096 0% 1 0% /usr/bin/urxvt
30585 30550 root S 2536 0% 1 0% /bin/ash /sbin/pup_event_frontend_d
31275 31261 root S 19828 1% 1 0% gtkdialog3 --program=PPROCESS --center
30606 1 root S 16088 1% 1 0% /usr/local/apps/ROX-Filer/ROX-Filer -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin
30622 1 root S 12080 1% 1 0% blinky -bg #DCDAF5
11009 1 root S 4068 0% 0 0% /usr/sbin/cupsd -C /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
30616 1 root S 4024 0% 0 0% xload -nolabel -bg #888888 -fg red -hl white
30618 1 root S 3964 0% 0 0% freememapplet
31531 31530 root S 3120 0% 1 0% bash
31261 1 root S 3056 0% 1 0% /bin/bash /usr/local/pprocess/pprocess
31027 31011 root S 3004 0% 0 0% /bin/sh /usr/lib/seamonkey-1.1.18/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/seamonkey-1.1.18/seamonkey-bin
10773 1 root S 2980 0% 1 0% /bin/sh /usr/bin/xwin
31011 30606 root S 2980 0% 0 0% /bin/sh /usr/bin/mozilla
30546 10773 root S 2760 0% 1 0% /usr/bin/xinit /root/.xinitrc -- -br -nolisten tcp
6823 1 root S < 2564 0% 1 0% /bin/sh /sbin/pup_event_backend_modprobe_protect --daemon
10494 6823 root S < 2564 0% 1 0% /bin/sh /sbin/pup_event_backend_modprobe_protect --daemon
10496 10494 root S < 2564 0% 1 0% /bin/sh /sbin/pup_event_backend_modprobe_protect --daemon
31645 31531 root R 2536 0% 0 0% top
10774 1 root S 2256 0% 0 0% /sbin/getty 38400 tty2
10779 1 root S 2256 0% 0 0% /sbin/getty 38400 tty3
1 0 root S 2252 0% 0 0% /bin/busybox init
10903 1 root S 2252 0% 1 0% syslogd -m 0
10906 1 root S 2252 0% 1 0% klogd
11021 1 messageb S 2056 0% 0 0% /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system
11160 1 root S 1824 0% 0 0% dhcpcd -d -I eth0
31049 30618 root S 1744 0% 1 0% /usr/bin/inotifywait -e modify --format %w /tmp/pup_event_sizefreem
6826 1 root S < 1720 0% 0 0% /sbin/udevd --daemon
2480 30585 root S 1652 0% 1 0% sleep 2
31045 1 root S 1640 0% 1 0% /usr/sbin/acpid
2105 2 root SW< 0 0% 1 0% [loop5]
1274 2 root SW< 0 0% 1 0% [aufsd]
1977 2 root SW< 0 0% 1 0% [loop0]
211 2 root SW< 0 0% 1 0% [ata/1]
2098 2 root SW< 0 0% 1 0% [loop4]
6 2 root SW< 0 0% 1 0% [ksoftirqd/1]
8 2 root SW< 0 0% 1 0% [events/1]
1885 2 root SW< 0 0% 1 0% [loop1]
2 0 root SW< 0 0% 1 0% [kthreadd]
3 2 root SW< 0 0% 0 0% [migration/0]
4 2 root SW< 0 0% 0 0% [ksoftirqd/0]
5 2 root SW< 0 0% 1 0% [migration/1]
7 2 root SW< 0 0% 0 0% [events/0]
9 2 root SW< 0 0% 0 0% [khelper]
14 2 root SW< 0 0% 1 0% [async/mgr]
115 2 root SW< 0 0% 0 0% [kblockd/0]
116 2 root SW< 0 0% 1 0% [kblockd/1]
118 2 root SW< 0 0% 1 0% [kacpid]
119 2 root SW< 0 0% 1 0% [kacpi_notify]
210 2 root SW< 0 0% 0 0% [ata/0]
212 2 root SW< 0 0% 1 0% [ata_aux]
215 2 root SW< 0 0% 1 0% [kseriod]
267 2 root SW 0 0% 1 0% [pdflush]
268 2 root SW 0 0% 0 0% [pdflush]
No success at all with xorgwizard on startup.
Video card is ATI Radeon 3450. Black screen only.
Vesa does work though.
I then installed MU's ati fglrx proprietary drive for kernel 2.6.3.5
This worked OK.
Still got black background on menu item icons.
Edit: Both Firefox and Openoffice 3.2 now start OK. This was not this case with Quirky 10
Video card is ATI Radeon 3450. Black screen only.
Vesa does work though.
I then installed MU's ati fglrx proprietary drive for kernel 2.6.3.5
This worked OK.
Still got black background on menu item icons.
Edit: Both Firefox and Openoffice 3.2 now start OK. This was not this case with Quirky 10
Life is too short to spend it in front of a computer
Aaaahh, lucky 13 .
No black screen freeze this time on my 12" 700m Dell.
855gm Intel video.
Xorg works fine at the 1280 x 800 native res.
Xvesa works fine at the 1024 x 768 I prefer.
Both at 16 or 24 colors.
SNS works good also.
.No black screen freeze this time on my 12" 700m Dell.
855gm Intel video.
Xorg works fine at the 1280 x 800 native res.
Xvesa works fine at the 1024 x 768 I prefer.
Both at 16 or 24 colors.
SNS works good also.
Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs
Hi Barry
Manual Frugal install on my 10yr old IBM A21m laptop.
PIII (coppermine). 192mb ram, ext3 hdd, 400mb swap partition. Running with no save_file.
Using acpi=force on the kernel line in menu.lst (won't load otherwise)
(with no acpi=force - gives message - pup sfs not found,
dropping out to initial ramdisk, console, bin/sh; cant access tty;
job control turned off, #)
But that happens to all 431 puppies with k2.6.30.5 on this machine - so no change there.
Got a woof woof at start
All seemed ok at and after initial setup.
However keyboard Ctrl+Q, Ctrl+W etc not working in hardinfo or SeaMonkey
So - checked and changed KB setting to UK - and all is well.
So it seems that initial KB selection (ie UK) is not being remembered during first setup.
Have not seen this before on any 431 puppy. Will double check and report.
However hardinfo does not show - kernel modules OR usb devices.
All previously tried 431 puppy's do show those details on this machine.
However hardinfo seems much, much faster than before.
SNS works and Xorg seems fine.
Thats all for now - got to work - so more later.
Thanks for this and the proposed triple whammy.
Very best regards - Ray
Manual Frugal install on my 10yr old IBM A21m laptop.
PIII (coppermine). 192mb ram, ext3 hdd, 400mb swap partition. Running with no save_file.
Using acpi=force on the kernel line in menu.lst (won't load otherwise)
(with no acpi=force - gives message - pup sfs not found,
dropping out to initial ramdisk, console, bin/sh; cant access tty;
job control turned off, #)
But that happens to all 431 puppies with k2.6.30.5 on this machine - so no change there.
Got a woof woof at start
All seemed ok at and after initial setup.
However keyboard Ctrl+Q, Ctrl+W etc not working in hardinfo or SeaMonkey
So - checked and changed KB setting to UK - and all is well.
So it seems that initial KB selection (ie UK) is not being remembered during first setup.
Have not seen this before on any 431 puppy. Will double check and report.
However hardinfo does not show - kernel modules OR usb devices.
All previously tried 431 puppy's do show those details on this machine.
However hardinfo seems much, much faster than before.
SNS works and Xorg seems fine.
Thats all for now - got to work - so more later.
Thanks for this and the proposed triple whammy.
Very best regards - Ray
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HP s3707c: Athlon 5400+, 4GB RAM, nvidia 9100 on-board graphics,
Soyo DLYM-2086 monitor (1680x1050 native)
Video:
Requested driver/resolution/depth: probe/1680x1050 24-bit.
Actual driver/resolution/depth: vesa/1600x1200 24-bit
Evaluation: good enough. - needs nvidia driver or nouveau driver from kernel 2.6.33 or newer to display properly.
Display:
Black background on startup.
Networking:
SNS just worked
Soyo DLYM-2086 monitor (1680x1050 native)
Video:
Requested driver/resolution/depth: probe/1680x1050 24-bit.
Actual driver/resolution/depth: vesa/1600x1200 24-bit
Evaluation: good enough. - needs nvidia driver or nouveau driver from kernel 2.6.33 or newer to display properly.
Display:
Black background on startup.
Networking:
SNS just worked
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First time I get a black screen. Laptop freezes.
No cursor, no way to get to the X prompt.
So I don't know what driver is loaded.
Graphics ATI Radeon 7500.
Selecting test in Xorgwizard freezes the laptop also.
No cursor, no way to get to the X prompt.
So I don't know what driver is loaded.
Graphics ATI Radeon 7500.
Selecting test in Xorgwizard freezes the laptop also.
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Identifier "Card0"
Driver "radeon" #card0driver
VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
BoardName "Radeon HD 2400 XT"Acer laptop backlight brightness control vanished with 2.6.30.5 kernel. Worked with Quirky 010.
Wireless with iwlagn driver works fine.
Touchpad movements were fine without xorg.conf adjustments.
q13 video report
Here's my video report,
Machine: hp5100S-p4
Initially Xorg crashed both on testing and on trying direct, forcing me to manually restart, even ctrl+alt+del didn't work. Tried on 1280x1024 and 1024x768.
Xvesa worked and allowed me to rename /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/i810_drv.so and /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so and then symlink /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers-alternate/i810_drv.so to both of the above.
This worked and allowed me to generate this video-report.
In all previous versions of quirky Xorg has worked on this machine out of the box.
Puppy 4.3 and 4.3.1 have worked but Xorg defaulted to 1680x1050 forcing me to use resolution changer (xrandr) to change to other settings.
Hope this is of some help, J
Machine: hp5100S-p4
Initially Xorg crashed both on testing and on trying direct, forcing me to manually restart, even ctrl+alt+del didn't work. Tried on 1280x1024 and 1024x768.
Xvesa worked and allowed me to rename /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/i810_drv.so and /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so and then symlink /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers-alternate/i810_drv.so to both of the above.
This worked and allowed me to generate this video-report.
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# report-video
cat: /etc/videomode: No such file or directory
VIDEO REPORT
Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller
Driver used by Xorg:
i810
Video mode used by Xorg:
...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# Puppy 4.3 and 4.3.1 have worked but Xorg defaulted to 1680x1050 forcing me to use resolution changer (xrandr) to change to other settings.
Hope this is of some help, J
Quirky 013 feedback
On booting the cd selecting "probe" just goes to a black screen, on next boot I selected vesa and it works.
The graphics card is a nVidia GeForce 8600 GT.
I later downloaded NVIDIA-185.18.36-k2.6.30.5-1.pet from the forum and
it installed and works good.
The graphics card is a nVidia GeForce 8600 GT.
I later downloaded NVIDIA-185.18.36-k2.6.30.5-1.pet from the forum and
it installed and works good.
Last edited by Billtoo on Tue 30 Mar 2010, 17:41, edited 1 time in total.
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As Tronkel did , I on a fresh boot (pfix=ram) I chosed Xvesa now and got to the desktop.Béèm wrote:First time I get a black screen. Laptop freezes.
No cursor, no way to get to the X prompt.
So I don't know what driver is loaded.
Graphics ATI Radeon 7500.
Selecting test in Xorgwizard freezes the laptop also.
But why did I get also a fresh Xorg.conf, I thought Xvesa didn't use it.
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Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "ShadowFB" # [<bool>]
#Option "DefaultRefresh" # [<bool>]
#Option "ModeSetClearScreen" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "vesa" #card0driver
VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
BoardName "Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSectionSo what happened here?
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boot options "puppy pfix=ram acpi=force"
1024x768 24bit (mostly)
1) horseshoe mode
-a,b) user-select "test": Xorg selects 'wrong' bus, card and monitor (old-style PCI, ati 9200SE and 17" CRT .. turned on after extended stay on test-blackscreened main display), Xorg stalls at prompt "VT9200SE128P H1B" .. Ctrl+Alt+Bs (no response) -> hardoff
-c) user-select "vesa": readable test, usable X on normal AGP setup..
minor user-edit of /etc/X11/xorg.conf while in X - fill in proper monitor vendor and model values, narrow HorizSync value-range and narrow/shift VertRefresh value-range, change driver values "vesa" to 'ati' (cards' vendor, model and bus values are now proper/sameas known-good - no Unknown or switched bus as was the case previously)
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.ATI_RADEON_9200CM1997PF file extant (but odd compared to known-good previous xorg.* files - "vesa" rather than 'ati' as driver values etc, it seems to work oki but)
after user-edit, re-X..
play ring-around-the-xorg-bush, redo edit in mp ..
xorg rejects attempts to use 'known-good' edit(s), insists that the horseshoe is in the same sand that the pin is in, declares itself the winner and "All U edits R belong 2 US".
do the hokey-pokey.. edit again in another pup..
attempt time travel, meet Bill Murray and discuss strategy.
2) on getting the %#&@ xorgwizard runaround for the umpteenth time trying to boot or reboot with edited xorgs.. hit the case-button, take a breather, write it up and go for a walk
confirm jwm "okay" (not real nice since tiny line-halos still border the alpha'd icons even) at 16bit
..and yep, Xorg's vesa 'driver' option is not Xvesa (afaict woowoowoowooo )
hwr@A - (setup above)
testing on: i686 machine
processor - Pentium 3 @1GHz
RAM - 512M
vidcard0 - RV280 (aka ATI Radeon 9200), AGP
vidcard1 - not used, but also RV280 (switched off in BIOS - aka Radeon 9200SE), PCI (old-style)
soundcard - emu10k1 (aka Creative Audigy 2 ZS or SB0350)
boot/save method - liveCDrw/quirkysave-crap.2fs, quirkysave-crap2.2fs on 3fs part on thumb
limitations - no printer, no internet connection
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hwr@B - (setup following)
tested on: Compaq 5225
Processor - AMD-K6 3D @380MHz
RAM - 256M
onboard vidcard - ATI 3D Rage LT Pro
onboard sound - (ALSA config issues with es18xx)
boot/save method - liveCDrw/no save
limitations - no printer, no internet connection
1024x768 16bit - readable test, usable X on 'normal' onboard setup
(wanted widescreen ratio for this machine's usual 32" LCD tv display with VGA in, but 1330x768 selection failed on mach64
meh, it don' work on win98 neither .. not real sure if the Rage can do much more 
)
___addenda-edit-100403___
Values changed to reflect new output of report-video version 100401 on hwr@A.
Interestingly enough, a few copyover 'installs' from other pups work as expected in q013 but not in q010 (notably Mrxvt 0.5.2 - likely due to the kernel?).
A bit of strangeness in q013's report - ATI RADEON 9200 vidcard(s) are not "oem" as I understand the term, original equipment was/is an onboard Intel 82815 if I recall correctly but I may be mistaken as to the exact id (no monitor has been cabled to that jack for years).
In some ways good to hear that q013 is a 'one-off' merely for retro-rollback testing - it is indeed an art appreciated of the effort
1024x768 24bit (mostly)
1) horseshoe mode
-a,b) user-select "test": Xorg selects 'wrong' bus, card and monitor (old-style PCI, ati 9200SE and 17" CRT .. turned on after extended stay on test-blackscreened main display), Xorg stalls at prompt "VT9200SE128P H1B" .. Ctrl+Alt+Bs (no response) -> hardoff
-c) user-select "vesa": readable test, usable X on normal AGP setup..
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VIDEO REPORT: Quirky, version 013
Chip description:
oem: ATI RADEON 9200
Driver used by Xorg:
vesa
Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: 1024x768 Depth: 24/etc/X11/xorg.conf.ATI_RADEON_9200CM1997PF file extant (but odd compared to known-good previous xorg.* files - "vesa" rather than 'ati' as driver values etc, it seems to work oki but)
after user-edit, re-X..
play ring-around-the-xorg-bush, redo edit in mp ..
xorg rejects attempts to use 'known-good' edit(s), insists that the horseshoe is in the same sand that the pin is in, declares itself the winner and "All U edits R belong 2 US".
do the hokey-pokey.. edit again in another pup..
attempt time travel, meet Bill Murray and discuss strategy.
2) on getting the %#&@ xorgwizard runaround for the umpteenth time trying to boot or reboot with edited xorgs.. hit the case-button, take a breather, write it up and go for a walk
confirm jwm "okay" (not real nice since tiny line-halos still border the alpha'd icons even) at 16bit
..and yep, Xorg's vesa 'driver' option is not Xvesa (afaict woowoowoowooo
)hwr@A - (setup above)
testing on: i686 machine
processor - Pentium 3 @1GHz
RAM - 512M
vidcard0 - RV280 (aka ATI Radeon 9200), AGP
vidcard1 - not used, but also RV280 (switched off in BIOS - aka Radeon 9200SE), PCI (old-style)
soundcard - emu10k1 (aka Creative Audigy 2 ZS or SB0350)
boot/save method - liveCDrw/quirkysave-crap.2fs, quirkysave-crap2.2fs on 3fs part on thumb
limitations - no printer, no internet connection
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hwr@B - (setup following)
tested on: Compaq 5225
Processor - AMD-K6 3D @380MHz
RAM - 256M
onboard vidcard - ATI 3D Rage LT Pro
onboard sound - (ALSA config issues with es18xx)
boot/save method - liveCDrw/no save
limitations - no printer, no internet connection
1024x768 16bit - readable test, usable X on 'normal' onboard setup
(wanted widescreen ratio for this machine's usual 32" LCD tv display with VGA in, but 1330x768 selection failed on mach64
meh, it don' work on win98 neither .. not real sure if the Rage can do much more )Code: Select all
# report-video
cat: /etc/videomode: No such file or directory
VIDEO REPORT
Chip description:
Driver used by Xorg:
mach64
Video mode used by Xorg:
...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-videoValues changed to reflect new output of report-video version 100401 on hwr@A.
Interestingly enough, a few copyover 'installs' from other pups work as expected in q013 but not in q010 (notably Mrxvt 0.5.2 - likely due to the kernel?).
A bit of strangeness in q013's report - ATI RADEON 9200 vidcard(s) are not "oem" as I understand the term, original equipment was/is an onboard Intel 82815 if I recall correctly but I may be mistaken as to the exact id (no monitor has been cabled to that jack for years).
In some ways good to hear that q013 is a 'one-off' merely for retro-rollback testing - it is indeed an art appreciated of the effort
Last edited by `f00 on Sat 03 Apr 2010, 17:35, edited 2 times in total.
Xorg Vesa driver actually is Xvesa; it's just called Xorg, AFAICT.
edit: incorrect info., see further posts.
This is one of two Puppies I've found that displays color correctly
with Xorg when playing dvd or video files.
This one does it right for both Xorg and Vesa!
Using a full install.
edit: incorrect info., see further posts.
This is one of two Puppies I've found that displays color correctly
with Xorg when playing dvd or video files.
This one does it right for both Xorg and Vesa!
Using a full install.
Last edited by rjbrewer on Wed 31 Mar 2010, 16:41, edited 1 time in total.
Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs
First reboot on a fresh frugal install of Quirky 013.........display working fine ootb.
cat: /etc/videomode: No such file or directory
VIDEO REPORT
Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (GMCH) Graphics Memory Controller Hub
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller
Driver used by Xorg:
intel
Video mode used by Xorg:
...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
cat: /etc/videomode: No such file or directory
VIDEO REPORT
Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (GMCH) Graphics Memory Controller Hub
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller
Driver used by Xorg:
intel
Video mode used by Xorg:
...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
Samsung x05
Hi,
This is the first quirky(013) that has booted up on this Samsung x05 laptop.
It failed initially at the probe stage, black screen, killed it with the power switch and rebooted.
Graphics came up using vesa, but I had to select the resolution.
Graphics are onboard Intel 82852/855GM chipset, so it is odd that rjbrewer has posted that his kit worked fine with xorg, when he had the same black screen with Quirky 010.
BTW this was the easiest Puppy yet to get on line with, using a Huawei E169 USB dongle.
This is the first quirky(013) that has booted up on this Samsung x05 laptop.
It failed initially at the probe stage, black screen, killed it with the power switch and rebooted.
Graphics came up using vesa, but I had to select the resolution.
Graphics are onboard Intel 82852/855GM chipset, so it is odd that rjbrewer has posted that his kit worked fine with xorg, when he had the same black screen with Quirky 010.
BTW this was the easiest Puppy yet to get on line with, using a Huawei E169 USB dongle.