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puppian


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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jan 2006, 13:32    Post subject:  

I have a good news Very Happy

I just tried using Azureus to download a 140MB file and get a maximum download speed of 120kb/s and the maximum upload speed is the same too! The statistics page shows that I'm connected to around 70 seeds and 25 peers (this is in the middle of the download, the figures are smaller at the beginning).

I have tweaked some settings of Azureus (e.g. max. no. of connections). At first the speed isn't that fast, but it increases gradully (time is needed to establish connections to others machines?), and there seems to be further increase when I have my firewall turned off. So I was wrong, Azureus IS working at great DL/UL speed with proper settings and enough no. of seeds/peers. Port forwarding is probably not needed too Very Happy More experiments needed for me to find the best setting in Azureus thou Smile

So all we need is more seeds and peers for our Puppy tracker Very Happy (and it would be great if people are from different places too...downloading from a machine geographically near to yours would be faster...e.g., if a machine in North America is downloading from a machine in Asia things may get slow. On the other hand if the two machines are on the same continent it will be much faster Smile )
More people using it means faster download for everyone Cool

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2006, 23:30    Post subject:  

puppian wrote:

So all we need is more seeds and peers for our Puppy tracker Very Happy

Well, I let the guy at TLMP know about our tracker and so he added the main release(s) to their seeding servers and will continue to do so for our official files on our official tracker.

Also, if someone already has the file(s) on their computer then they can put them in their client's default directory and then start the torrent and the client should use the existing file to start seeding from.

Now in time, more growth will come and this resource will become useful and at the same time the old/unpopular torrents will eventually lose their usefulness. That is the way of torrents....
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PostPosted: Sat 04 Feb 2006, 04:47    Post subject:  

That's great J_Rey! Cool

TLMP has been around for over a year and I think they have regular seeders who seed using crob job Very Happy Hope that we'll have our own regular seeders too. Puppy now has crond and crontab, and a GUI Gcrontab, maybe we can set them up with Azureus?

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Feb 2006, 05:55    Post subject:  

http://labs.opera.com/news/2006/02/07/2/

Feb 07, 2006

technology preview of Opera 9

Opera Widgets – Widgets are small AJAX applications

BitTorrent – built right into the browser so you can download torrent files easily
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Feb 2006, 15:51    Post subject:  

That's good news! Cool

I think they are having bittorrent enabled in the next stable release too:

Opera integrates BitTorrent in upcoming browser
http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2006/02/06/

I have tried their previous preview releases before and the bittorrent feature works great. Nothing to configure - it just works. Opera would be the ideal bittorrent app for puppy IMO Very Happy

I'm going to try THIS.

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Feb 2006, 21:12    Post subject:  

Where did all the torrents go?!?!? Confused

EDIT: Rather, why did the tracker & tracker page get reset? BTW, I added some important torrents back.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb 2006, 01:54    Post subject:  

Thanks for notifying me about that J_Rey. No I didn't reset it. I have no idea what's wrong, probably something missing in the data. I restored a backup of the data file and it seems working again now ...
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Feb 2006, 03:17    Post subject:  

I think I know what the problem is. There are two causes (as far as I know) for the disappearing of torrents, one of them is a know bug.

Edit: It seems that someone is attacking the tracker (the site has been down twice since I restored the data last time) using the information I mentioned here. I hope not, I can't believe we have such person in the puppy community... Sad The info. is now deleted.
If you think you have broken the tracker inadverdently, please kindly send me a pm so that we know it's not an attack. If you are the attacker, please stop that.

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2006, 15:33    Post subject:  

Certain part of the tracker has been rewritten and the problem mentioned is basically solved now (thanks raffy for his help!) Very Happy

And now only specially authorized users (Uploaders) have permission to upload torrents.

What criteria must I meet before I can join the Uploader team?
You must be able to provide releases that:
• you'll be able to seed, or make sure are well-seeded, for at least 24 hours.

If you think you can match the criteria do not hesitate to send me a pm.

P.S. Admin. of puppylinux.org please log in the site for details.

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Creating .torrent Files
I'll use the popular Azureus as an example here, but other programs surely have a similar process. So creating a .torrent file is actually easy, not much to it.

In Azureus:
1. File menu -> Create a Torrent.
2. Make sure "Use an external Tracker" is selected, and use the URL stated in the upload page as the Announce URL.
3. Leave "Add Multi-Tracker..." unchecked.
4. Select "Single File" if you're only doing it for one file.
5. Click next, then locate the file you want to share.
6. Click next. The default data shown should be fine.
Go ahead and check "Open torrent for seeding when done" and click Finish.
7. It will then create the .torrent file (in it's 'torrent' directory configured at setup).
8. Now just upload this torrent file to the site
9. Post the [url=link to torrent]file name[/url] so people can download it.

That's it ^^ Remember to seed as long as possible so it helps everyone out.

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PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2006, 15:03    Post subject:  

We desperately need more people to seed some of the torrents that are up right now. I just checked and most of them are inactive with 0 seeders. I'm downloading some of the files now and will eventually try and seed all of the ones on the page, but I have to leave for work shortly so won't be able to get them back up and running until later tonight.

I really like the whole concept and want to support it. I may even upgrade Opera in the next Grafpup release in order to facilitate getting more people involved. As I see it one of the biggest stumbling blocks is the lack of a built in client in Puppy, and the fact that most of the ones that are available require Java, Python, or even KDE. Ctorrent is available but not very user freindly.

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PostPosted: Fri 24 Feb 2006, 16:17    Post subject:  

I don't know what's going on! Puppian needs to communicate with the rest of us better.... Mad

Yesterday, the tracker was taken offline saying it will no longer be active because of bandwidth concerns and leaving us with links to LinuxTracker but not our P2P wiki page, and now its back up and the LinuxTracker links are still there?!?! I'm having second thoughts on its usefulness since it hasn't shown to be reliable. I'm about to start trying the TLMP guy's patience if we keep going back and forth.... *sigh* </grumble>

Jay/Puppian, please discuss changes further with the rest of the Puppy Linux community to avoid this happening again. Thanks for all the help though!
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Feb 2006, 02:02    Post subject:  

The tracker has been taken off when I saw Barry's post about server overload. The cause of overload was still unknown at that time Smile
(Please note that the data is not 'lost', I just took it offline. NO data has been lost since the implementation of raffy's scripts, so it is stable).
Then, a day after Puppy 108 had been released, I think the traffic is probably over, and put the other torrents back (but not the two Puppy108 iso torrents that use our own announce url, as I'm still worried).

I leave Linuxtracker's link there as I think the latest ISO would be generating most of the traffic, which is better redirected Wink

Now that we know the hits are generated by the server status script (which has been removed already) and we are safe now Very Happy
But in the long run I would probably tweak our tracker to allow external torrents (and may or may not show their statistics, e.g, no. of seeders/peers, etc) to balance the load (just to be safe Wink ). I'm a bit busy though, so please be patient. And sorry for the confusion caused.

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Yesterday, the tracker was taken offline saying it will no longer be active because of bandwidth concerns
I didn't say "it will no longer be active", I did say it's temporarily offline, as it's generating much traffic (and not bandwidth).
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leaving us with links to LinuxTracker but not our P2P wiki page
I just thought that direct links to the torrent files would be more convenient to our new users Smile

PS. Glad that you like the idea, Nathan Very Happy
Btw Opera is VERY cool IMO Cool It's super fast (faster than firefox and mozilla), smaller in size and even has a built-in IRC client!

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Feb 2006, 04:49    Post subject:  

See how many tabs can be opened in Opera Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat 25 Feb 2006, 17:01    Post subject: I give up  

Well, 1.0.8r1 has been released and now the upload page is not available so I'm going to forget about using our tracker for important files until further notice. Evil or Very Mad If things change let me know.
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Mar 2006, 15:09    Post subject:  

The upload page is back Very Happy

Some settings of our torrent site have been changed: External torrents (of certain trackers) are now allowed. I've set up two backup trackers (announce urls) which are hosted by free webhosts for use.

The multi-tracker feature of bittorrent clients (e.g, Azureus) is very useful. A few announce urls can be specified when creating a torrent, and when one fails, the next one on the list will be used (so the order of urls is important too, and the order in our upload page should be used when creating torrents).

Our torrent site (the one at puppylinux.org) won't get the external stats from the different trackers (to ease server load), but the stats can be found here:
http://mynnam.freecoolsite.com.nyud.net:8080/pupbt/ (alpha testing)
(if you had received another url from me, please update your bookmark)
The stats site has its content sychronized with /puppybt, but with extra stats. It's now hosted by free host too. If you can host it for us, please contact me (dedicated server prefered) Smile

The above setup is still in testing stage. Btw if you know any fast tracker that doesn't require uploading/registration we can also add its annouce url to the list Very Happy

Edit: Scrape for our tracker is enabled to show some nice stats for the stats site (anyway it's just a few torrents Smile )

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