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dejan555 wrote:

battleshooter wrote:
There is actually a Kdenlive for KDE 3.5,

I know there is one but on their official site they don't reccommend using version for kde 3.x because current version is like complete rewrite or something

Kdenlive 0.7.5 Debian packages are now available in Debian sid (unstable). Melt (MLT) is presently only available from Debian sid (unstable). Do not use Debian testing repositories, which offer older versions of Kdenlive.

Oh ok, weird. I figured you'd already know about that Kdenlive, just making sure...

Battleshooter

Super sweet dejan! Some sound bites from my head:

Man that's a big sfs.

God I love that wallpaper.

Oh man! So *this* is what KDE is!

Folks, this is not your fathers puppy.

Oh man! So *this* is Amarok!

Hey little bouncing fox thingie! (running firefox)

Oh hai, wats this! (7 or 8 times)

Hey this is dpup, let's see about...(several times).

I'm gonna have to put this on the big box in the other room and see what it can do. Little heavy for my lappie, wbar and pwidgets don't seem to work so I want to see if I can fix 'em. I had to keep reminding myself that this wasn't some huge distro that I finally got working on my laptop after all these years. Very snappy, surprisingly so. This pup makes me say "what if" a lot, so I can see hours of messing around ahead. I've gotten so used to traditional puppies and JWM that I forgot what Linux can be if given some legs. Had a similar experience with PAW, but the addition of KDE is really something. Thanks for letting it out of the kennel, dejan!

Hey thanks tubeguy, btw wbar should work but there's some catch how gposil configured it for dpup will check later, hmm how did you try to run it, from wbar setup wizard?

From the top of my head, go to /var/ there's configuration file for wbar where it says true or false change it to true and then it should run.

dejan555 wrote:Hey thanks tubeguy, btw wbar should work but there's some catch how gposil configured it for dpup will check later, hmm how did you try to run it, from wbar setup wizard?

From the top of my head, go to /var/ there's configuration file for wbar where it says true or false change it to true and then it should run.

Ran from wizard. The config file is where you said it was, changing to true worked. Thanks!

Some +2 years ago I tried a KDE 3.x.x sfs on my then 256MB Thinkpad.
I liked KDE, but it was slower then JWM. But I used it.
I started to have problems and I got no response from the developer, so I had to stop using it.

When I saw the iso, I decided to try again. As far as I can judge it's quicker then quirky and lucid, in fact very snappy, but can be due to the fact I have 1GB now. Indeed, after boot, I only have 50K available.

But I have problems.

My HDD's, specially sda2 on which there is a swap file and the external USB HDD's aren't seen. But strangely when creating a save file, I got them proposed all and selected sda2 to create the save file.

But also I have no internet. I got it without problems in dpup 484b4.
I need the ipw2100 module, but it isn't found.

So I have 2 show stoppers here. A pity.

How do you mean your HDDs aren't seen? When you run pmount they aren't shown there or fdisk -l in terminal or they're not seen as there's no icon for them on desktop? Because hotpup icons won't show on kde desktop as they do with jwm.
whatever was in dpup is also in kdpup, I haven't removed anything and so is ipw2100 module too,

For this box:

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+
Memory : 1554MB (536MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.48
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri May 21 21:55:37 2010

-Display-
Resolution : 1600x1200 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation

-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : NFORCE - NVidia nForce2
Audio Adapter : USB-Audio - USB Sound Device

-Input Devices-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse
Power Button
Power Button
PC Speaker

-Printers (CUPS)-
CUPS-PDF : <i>Default</i>

-SCSI Disks-
ATA Maxtor 6L200P0
HP DVD Writer 300n
ATAPI CDROM 48X
RIM BlackBerry SD

I couldn't get pwidgets to work. Conky runs but the widgets themselves won't actually display, my understanding is that it is a KDE thing. So got standard conky running. Not as pretty but functional anyway.

Very happy to report that my USB sound thingie works!

Just more and more enamored with KDE and Konqueror file manager, best thing since, well, it's great.

I have a 1gig pupsave on an ext4 volume, very snappy startup. Man this is cool!

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dejan555 wrote:How do you mean your HDDs aren't seen? When you run pmount they aren't shown there or fdisk -l in terminal or they're not seen as there's no icon for them on desktop? Because hotpup icons won't show on kde desktop as they do with jwm.
whatever was in dpup is also in kdpup, I haven't removed anything and so is ipw2100 module too,

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# find /lib/modules/ -name ipw2100*
/lib/modules/2.6.30.5/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2x00/ipw2100.ko
/lib/modules/all-firmware/ipw2100_firmware-1.3.tar.gz
# modprobe ipw2100
#

I must have been sleepy
This morning after a fresh reboot, I found the network wizard and could configure it and connect.
And looking for ipw2100 with find, do find it now. Weird.

As for the HDD's I probably am confused with Ubuntu, which I tried out for a short while, where those resources are in media:/, which is where I looked to mount them.
Hadn't realized pmount was there. It's ok now.

So it's not possible to see the HDD's on the desktop if I understand well?

Any way 'playing' with KDE now.
As I like to have the system tray vertical on the left side, I can do so now, other puppies not giving this possibility or showing erratic behavior.

Béèm wrote:I must have been sleepy

It's ok beem

Béèm wrote: As for the HDD's I probably am confused with Ubuntu, which I tried out for a short while, where those resources are in media:/, which is where I looked to mount them.
Hadn't realized pmount was there. It's ok now.

Well this is puppy after all, for devices to be shown in media:/ in konqueror you need correct /etc/fstab and also would need some hal backend hack so for mounting best to use puppy's tools not sure if hotpup could be hacked for kde.

No I want try hacking, this is outside my competence.
I'll get used to the earlier days when desktop drive icons didn't exists in puppy.
Enjoying KDE so far.
I specially appreciate the ease of configuring things through the control center.

@dejan555

Thanks for KDE WITH Puppy....was searching for my favorite desktop ,I am more than happy
Tried LHP but had to download and use lots of separate sfs

This KDPup full fills my needs all in one GO

Except for shut down ,have to do it manually all the things ROCK

THANKS

kayan

kayan wrote:Except for shut down ,have to do it manually

You could drag one of the scripts in usr/bin to the desktop (symlink it):

wmexit
wmpoweroff
wmreboot

or drag shutdown to the desktop, that's the dpup shutdown window.

Yeah or locate jwmshutdown it's the shutdown dialog used in dpup.
You can even make button on panel to launch it.

BTW post your PC specs kayan
EDIT: OOPS, it's in your signature!

I tried to configure my connection with pwireless2, but the device, eth1, wasn't found.
With the network wizard no problem.

I prefer pwireless2 as it reconnects, in case of a lost connection, to the same access point.
With the network wizard, as I have a lot access points arond me, I did find myself connected to another (non-protected) one after a connection loss.

What can be done to get Pwireless2 working?
When started no access points are displayed and there are at least some 25 around me.

No idea sorry I don't use wireless maybe look in pwireless dev thread if there's updated version or something?

dejan555 wrote:No idea sorry I don't use wireless maybe look in pwireless dev thread if there's updated version or something?

I thought you wanted to know what goes wrong in your development and eventually correct it.
As I have an alternative, it's up to you to see if you want to look into a possible correction.

Yeah read what I said in first post, you can post bugs but this is just a puplet and I will correct if I know enough to do so otherwise you're on your own. I've never used wireless network or pwireless tool and know nothing about how those protocols function. I know that if ipw module was in dpup it's also in kdpup and if connection worked on dpup you should have same connection as tools are same. Is that other network wizard you talk about also in kdpup?

From first post:

NOTE: This is just a puplet, it's not official release nor I plan on extending it or maintaining/further developing at the moment.
Nothing crucial in base libs/modules/configuration is changed so if dpup didn't work for you or had some bug this one won't be exception.
You can post bugs if you find them or even better if you have fix for them but don't hope that I can do something about.

The other network wizard is just the network wizard which is for a long time in all the puppies. Nothing extravagant. Just standard.
I use that one now.

Not having access to wireless I can understand it's difficult to diagnose, but me having no skills in development I don't know where and how to start.
I can do tests if instructed. I have done that.

As for the iw2100 driver, I know it's in dpup. I used dpup a lot until there was no movement anymore in the project and I still use it on occasions.

So it boils down to the regular network is seeing my internet device as eth1 with the ipw2100 driver whereas pwireless2 don't. That"s all there is.

I successfully added a wine sfs and a OpenOffice sfs to my kdpup installation.
All is working ok.
Just to inform about this.

dejan555,
Good job! I did a frugal install on my usb stick and gave it a try. I am very impressed with kde (I never used kde much) and how well puppy package manager works with the debian repos. I can't wait to do some customizing!

One problem though, I tried doing a frugal install on my girlfriends Dell xps m140 (which is running puppy 4.3.1 at the moment) but when booting I get: The message comes immediately after booting from grub, before any of the normal startup messages ("loading drivers", "copying to ram", etc)

I'm not sure what the problem is. The sfs, initrd, and vmlinuz are in /kdepup on partition 3. the puppy 4.3.1 files are in / on partition 3. Do you think 4.3.1 is conflicting with kdpup? Here is a section from menu.list
Anyone see anything that would cause a problem? All of the md5sums check out ok.