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#91 Post by willem1940NLD »

I suffered under konqueror before (SUSE) and am not longing for some repeat; totally useless on Web.

Just tried 484 beta downloaded last night, as CDlive and am now preparing to install on HD. Looks fine and it DOES PRINT (hp deskjet 3650).

Thx so far.

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#92 Post by dejan555 »

Glad it works for you so far Willem and I keep konqueror more because of it's file manager functions and integration with kde.
Have fun! ;)
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#93 Post by willem1940NLD »

Problem: cannot use 484 without the CD; at restart, it does not find the saved files on my sda2 partition, though duly saved and GRUB (same partition) working.

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#94 Post by willem1940NLD »

Thanks for hints in puppychat. Found "puppy installer" in KDE menu.

Could not reboot or poweroff, till I added in grub kernel line
acpi=force
which somebody taught me earlier in chat.

Firefox behaving strange; terribly long startup and does not obey to "show my home page" setting.

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#95 Post by willem1940NLD »

So sorry, will remove 484 because I cannot make it work orderly.

Could it be it has not yet been tried deepgoing for HD full install?

Two more clean reinstalls.

- Grub deteriorates within 2 restarts: no more reboots, no more poweroff, just restarting X instead but then laming Firefox (server not found); grub menu.lst looks o.k, though
- Firefox {I suspect: bugged by konqueror/KDE} does not obey to ordered home page
- messengers {bugged by konqueror/KDE?} cannot open e-mail (hotmail)

Edit: slight change: Grub seems to behave now, after 3x using mains switch and ignoring comments on reboot; does poweroff and reboot now. Firefox still as bad.

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#96 Post by dejan555 »

Firefox doesn't open home page because of different .desktop files format, can fix that by editing /usr/share/applications/FireFoxox.desktop
Open it as text, remove the "$@" after the firefox command then save.

I'm running full install, works for me, messengers also both work, not sure what's the problem, did you configure your internet connection first?
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#97 Post by willem1940NLD »

Found the firefox thing you indicated and saw mij way to erase "$@" using Geany.

Restarted computer, still nothing changed.

Triple checked, "$@" stays away.

Firefox still does not obey home page.

Pidgin, Kopete, aMSN .... cannot open hotmail (e-mail) messages but all can chat. They do NOT see Firefox.

Think something else or more needs correction, maybe in KDE settings .... remember a comparable problem in KDE4.5 SUSE but forgot how it was resolved.

Note: Pidgin, at clicking, first tries to lead me to freenode chat .... which has an own entry as well in menu (Weechat) .... confusing.

Yes, net connection o.k, I am using the machine this moment to type here and it was second thing I installed (firewall first).

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#98 Post by willem1940NLD »

Mount and Startmount (drives) both do not work properly; must do all by hand.

Grub failing again, "repaired" my way, will not last more than 3 reboots then again rendering unsollicited X-restart only.

Keyboard variant USA-intl (so, WITH the accents/diacritics) duly chosen but disappears in 2-3 restarts. this to me is a known KDE-bug. Often the proper setting remains visible in Control Center but must be re-opened and repeated/manipulated to get to work again for so long or short as it lasts.

I am really sorry, as 484 has a lot of attractive things for me, but cannot go on using it this way.

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#99 Post by willem1940NLD »

Grub now totally beyond repair, keeps restarting "tty" or something instead of following reboot/poweroff. Does appear after mains switch forced restart, then needing twice control-alt-delete repeat to login.

Will now remove 484, waiting for a newer version.

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#100 Post by dejan555 »

Made some graphics last night, I added pic to second post tell me what you think.
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#101 Post by Eyes-Only »

Really nice pic Dejan! I like it! :) I'll have to send you the two that I'm using for mine. :lol:

Keep up the really great work. I'm glad to see that you've decided to take this "bull by the horns" and do more fine-tuning of this KDpup - developing now your OWN specialised puplet/distro. You yourself well know how much I enjoy this variant of Puppy! :D It's the very best of any puplet/distro out there bar none IMHO! However, for me? I much prefer the original-roll version that you first released, even if the .iso file was "rather large". Hey! It was still far smaller than downloading the full version of Debian-Lenny itself with KDE. Plus you gave several other very nice window managers for variation as well. :)

The one thing I added to mine which made it even more individualised - and hence special for me - was gposil's work with Synaptic/Apt. Granted, it doesn't work perfectly and I wouldn't recommend it to someone new to Linux per se ( for those I'd send them to PPM ). But for someone with a few years under the belt ( i.e. "Knows what they're doing" ) it works out perfectly in the fact that all of Debian-Lenny lies before them - and I've yet to discover anything that doesn't work ( excuse me - except XFE but that's another story ).

Anyway, just wanted to let you know once more what a fabulous and worthwhile project I believe this to be Dejan and what a priceless service you're performing for the Puppy Community at large. Thank you so much and I just wished I could help - and I would at that - if not for my present circumstance/situation...

Bonne Chance!/Good Luck!

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#102 Post by steve_s »

Dejan! It looks great!

We just had to reinstall xp on one of our 'puters, so I set this one up to dual boot and, just for fun, gave KDPup a run...very sharp! Looks great! This is the smoothest run of KDE I've ever used and I've used PCLOS, Knoppix and a few others with KDE. Of course, this is the first with Puppy under the hood, so that's probably why.

Nice job! 8)
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#103 Post by dejan555 »

Thanks Steve, glad you like it!
Which are the specs on that PC?
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#104 Post by steve_s »

dejan555 wrote:Thanks Steve, glad you like it!
Which are the specs on that PC?
Oh, it's pretty quick: ASUS Crosshair "Republic of Games" motherboard, couple gigs of ram, good video card...it used to be the "game" computer of the house and still gets gamed on.

The hard drive is partitioned with NTFS in the first partition as like 80% of the drive, then a 1.5 gig swap partition, and like a 5-10 gig ext2 partition. I put grub on that one, have grub as the bootloader and it defaults to WinXP so the XP obsessed have really no idea or care that it's Linux that is booting the computer. I set the bootloader with hiddenmenu and default to WinXP after 2 seconds.

But whenever I want I can just hit escape and boot to the frugal install of KDpup. Great stuff dejan! 8)

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#105 Post by willem1940NLD »

Back to 501 and again and again .... also after disappointing experiment 508 bêta3.

Possible cause of my troubles: not all Puppies seem to support Ext4 format .... ??

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#106 Post by grimoire »

do you have a lite version of kpup? at least 256mb. :D

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#107 Post by dejan555 »

Oh I did make a lite iso but haven't uploaded yet it's about 220 MB :)
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#108 Post by steve_s »

dejan555 wrote:Oh I did make a lite iso but haven't uploaded yet it's about 220 MB :)
Sweet! It's hard to do anything "Lite" with kde...

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#109 Post by steve_s »

Oh, I'm sure this isn't the right place, but I wanted to mention:

That computer has a Nvidia Gforce 7800 GT video card and Puppy hates it! I used a very complicated and high-tech work around:

I run xorgwizard, set it for the right monitor, then test it, then select "Tweak" then hit Esc like 8 times, toggling back and forth.

For whatever reason this changes it from the originally selected driver that Puppy likes to use (this is ALL versions of Puppy) and seems to switch it do a generic driver (or something).

Then it works prefectly, I set up the save file and I never have to do that again. 8)

I'm sure someone knows the deal with that video driver and a more scientific way to go about changing it, but I don't know if any other way would be quite as fun. :D

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#110 Post by willem1940NLD »

New attempt to install (ext2 only). "KDE Session manager" seems to contain lies only, changes are not obeyed to and I could not reboot, only "leave session" ending in command screen.

Note: the other time the download was, if I well remember, "484 bêta 3" but this new one reads "bêta 4".

2 attempts bêta 4 failed, formatting down 2nd time now.

Note 2: I am trying to achieve double (triple) boot on master HD, sda1=swap, sda2=lupu501, sda3=484 .... 1st attempt as "full" and "update grub", 2nd attempt as "frugal" .... resulting both negative.

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