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Google the Silent Assassin
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cthisbear

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
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Location: Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Thu 13 May 2010, 05:40    Post subject:  Google the Silent Assassin  

Please explain:
why Google wants your Wi-Fi data

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/please-explain-why-google-wants-your-wifi-data-20100513-uyyh.html

" Google Australia will today be sent a "please explain" letter from
two local privacy organisations demanding to know why the company
has been collecting personal Wi-Fi network data from Australian homes alongside the images it takes with its Street View cameras. "

And some people use Google Desktop in Windows.

I'm sure they'd never be hacked by this out of control
juggernaut.

Chris.
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tubby

Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Posts: 317

PostPosted: Thu 13 May 2010, 06:12    Post subject:  

So google are legally War Driving. Surprised

Quote:
Little is known about Google's collection of this data. Although the company argues the information is public and therefore not in breach of any laws, it conceded last week that it could have been better publicised.
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abushcrafter


Joined: 30 Oct 2009
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Location: England

PostPosted: Thu 13 May 2010, 12:19    Post subject:  

I think this is great. I hope I will be able to use this for knowing where I can get Wi-Fi as well as it being able to find where I am.

If you don't want people accessing/knowing about your Wi-Fi then can't you change your settings?
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2byte

Joined: 09 Oct 2006
Posts: 357

PostPosted: Thu 13 May 2010, 13:10    Post subject:  

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Google claims the Wi-Fi data is only being used to help pinpoint the location of mobile devices on Google Maps and other location services much like a GPS signal, and that no details it collects about the network are published online.


And just why does Google need to pinpoint the location of my mobile device ?

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VIRIDIAN

Joined: 21 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Fri 21 May 2010, 05:10    Post subject:  

Mandatory E911 service. (intended purpose: Distress call geolocation)
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2byte

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PostPosted: Fri 21 May 2010, 08:53    Post subject:  

Really? I feel so much better knowing that Google will be handling the 911 distress call from my mobile phone! When was a mandate issued to Google for E911 service?

What's next? Are they going to try to take over my TV too? Wait a sec.. that's already in the works. They're gonna have a hard time doing that! The dummies. Ha ha ha. All TVs would have to be able to read digital transmissions for that to work! Oops... darn, that was done last year wasn't it.

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VIRIDIAN

Joined: 21 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Fri 21 May 2010, 17:01    Post subject:  

Well I don't like the big-brotherish potentials of the system,
but continuing to play sheeple, there are more reasons
google will be involved:
1.Newer phones do a lot more than make "Cellular" calls,
which may cost more than VOIP/wi-fi stuff like Skype.
2.Some people Twitter all day instead of Talk on their phone,
and that is also a service owned by or associated with google.
3.Google has already scanned the whole earth in fine detail
and made google maps which are or have been or will be used
in GPS gadgets, (which actually have been hacked to reveal a
linux or WinCE environment, and then after installing an AV player,
be used like an i-pod, since the screen and voice speaker can also
play videos). Many of the online maps (and GPS gadgets) can
also already be queried to show the nearest fuel stations, hotels,
places to eat, hospitals, etc.

Also:
"Stolen" wireless devices have in the past been located by turning
on the cameras, but that feature has been outrageously abused
and now its location can be more effectively and less intrusively
known by where it is connecting to the networks. Unfortunately,
the devices don't automatically determine when they are "stolen"
so the "recovery features" can be used at any time for unrelated
reasons. Likewise, an emergency panic button in some cars that
has a speakerphone and GPS has been used to locate "stolen"
vehicles and disable them in unexpected ways and situations.
The objectionable issues arise when malicious parties gain
access and control to these functions and use them in harmful
ways, and they cannot be turned off by the obviously rightful
owners and innocent victims in such a situation, most of which
believed the intended feature was a good safe idea when they
bought the wireless communicator, laptop, or vehicle. Automatic
updates can be turned into Malware, and for that reason I always
want to know what's being "fixed" and why, especially if its not
obviously broken, and always tends to slow down as more
active software is added.
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JustGreg

Joined: 24 May 2005
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Jun 2010, 19:41    Post subject:
Subject description: State of Connecticut may prosecute Google
 

The state of Connecticut Attorney General has sent Google a letter notifying of possible violations of the state's privacy laws and requesting an explanation of their actions. He is also running for the Senate, so it is a good way to get on the local TV. It may help.
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benali72

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PostPosted: Thu 10 Jun 2010, 01:38    Post subject:  

I have also heard that the German government is investigating Google re their wifi data collection. Google has been requested to keep all such data until the investigation concludes.
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Lobster
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Jun 2010, 02:05    Post subject:  

Until intellipedia becomes part of wikipedia . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellipedia

. . . we have to develop Open Source Intelligence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_intelligence

Spooks are as stupid as everyone else
politicians for example
- wouldn't they hate for you to know that?
Now you do Cool

I spy with my little I
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walter90


Joined: 25 Aug 2009
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Location: Pennsylvania, USA

PostPosted: Thu 10 Jun 2010, 14:26    Post subject:  

The new world order and big brother doesn't seem so far fetched now does it?
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benali72

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jun 2010, 00:26    Post subject:  

To answer the original question --

>>>>> "Please explain: why Google wants your Wi-Fi data"

I think the answer is that Google understands the value of data and wants ALL your data. Not just search histories but to scan your email and rip off your songs (Youtube) and rip off your books (Google book project), etc, etc.

This is a company built on selling the intellectual content and personal data of others.
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