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Posted: Fri 28 May 2010, 16:42
by scabz
Testing on my EeePc 900a, I am really happy that i can finally play games that require Opengl using Puppy and not some huge bloated OS.Games that I have tested are OpenArena, Smokin' Guns, SuperTuxKart and Tremulous all are playable at decent speeds.
I just wanted to say thanks alot for quirky!!!
Posted: Sat 29 May 2010, 01:06
by BarryK
I have bumped this thread up to Quirky 1.2rc:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01625
Lots of new goodies!
Xdefaults
Posted: Sat 29 May 2010, 01:24
by broomdodger
Barry wrote:!broomdodger reported these work in puppy 431 with rxvt...
!Rxvt*keysym.0xFF50:\001
!Rxvt*keysym.0xFF57:\005
!but urxvt in quirky etc needs these...
Rxvt.keysym.Home: \033[1~
Rxvt.keysym.End: \033[4~
Almost
For puppy 431 it should be:
!puppy431 sol eol
!Rxvt.keysym.0xFF50: \033[1~
!Rxvt.keysym.0xFF57: \033[4~
Similar to that for quirky, but the older rxvt (in puppy431) does not understand: Rxvt.keysym.Home or Rxvt.keysym.End
Both quirky112 and puppy431 will work with:
Rxvt.keysym.0xFF50: \033[1~
Rxvt.keysym.0xFF57: \033[4~
.
strip is buggy
Posted: Sat 29 May 2010, 10:21
by tatemono
/bin/e3 crashes after applying strip command to reduce its size.
By the way, strip of Puppy 4.3.1 has the same problem.
too many vi
Posted: Sat 29 May 2010, 10:27
by tatemono
I found 2 vi in Quirky 1.2rc.
One is /bin/vi, while the other is an alias, e3vi.
Please apply shinobar's shell script to fix a bug in JWM
Posted: Sat 29 May 2010, 11:03
by tatemono
After adding a suitable unicode TTF file to Quirky, SeaMonkey displays unicode characters. However, it does not display unicode characters in its title bar. For example, if you visit
http://map.yahoo.co.jp/, you cannot see the last 2 characters of "Yahoo!地図" displayed in title bar of SeaMonkey even if Android's TTF is added to the system.
In fact, this problem was solved by shinobar 11 months ago. Please apply his shell script, whose URL is
http://shino.pos.to/linux/puppy/jwm_font_repair.sh, to fix a bug in JWM's setting causing this problem.
libGL.so
Posted: Sat 29 May 2010, 11:17
by tatemono
libGL.so is needed to run Google Earth for Linux 5.1 and it is not included in Quirky.
Is it to be added to Quirky in the near future?
Re: libGL.so
Posted: Sat 29 May 2010, 14:48
by scabz
tatemono wrote:libGL.so is needed to run Google Earth for Linux 5.1 and it is not included in Quirky.
Is it to be added to Quirky in the near future?
yes can be added to quirky in the near future or as soon as you go to the puppy package manager and install mesa "opengl and dri".
Posted: Sat 29 May 2010, 21:40
by `f00
(using a butchered q110 savefile copy, so..) xdeltas were fine
The default html viewer(s) in /usr/local/bin .. probably just as well that 'basic' invokes the almost-forgotten-in-quirky/wary PuppyBrowser and surfer seems to be only referenced in /usr/sbin/delayedrun (since it can't handle file:// and other address forms as-is). Too bad, since even the new SM is molasses-slow to load initially for me. Did .mht extension ever get properly mime'd? I see it has at least a different 'icon-look' if that portends anything
and set/run does better than sendto did previously (.mht is more a webpage archive than plaintext). More local help is a good thing imo (SM local help has returned and there's some other things which don't simply give an online link) even if it adds to the size - judgement call there.
For me it's about 4-5 minutes into uptime that idle settles (looking at xload). SM takes 20 sec to load, old Opera10a about 14 sec, Arora about 9 sec and surfer almost instantly (but times shorten after initial cold loads so that's simply an offhand observation).
Drat, system just froze (was checking the soundfiles in /usr/share/audio with defaultaudioplayer pmusic and the last one played was beep_high.wav when it just froze with clockstop etc in pekwm - no way out except hardoff
). All oki in w020 .. probably just a fluke instance in q112 since freeze not repeatable on return (fwiw, fresh partial xerrs.log in tar.gz attached).
ps - UTC hwclock is maybe more for server? I used swatchtime for an unambiguous 'universal' time-reference at one point (but it never really caught on since it
is unambiguous in it's division-format). Offsets can lead to misunderstandings occasionally (some few 'special cases' in DST whenifas observed regionally) .. edit posted @996 (;
clock setting
Posted: Sat 29 May 2010, 22:18
by Béèm
I think, 95% of the users are unaware of the clock setting local/UTC and will be confused and won't know what to choose.
I think it's a too technical a question to ask.
Before the discussion on the issue, recently, I wasn't aware of this difference either.
strange times of files in tmp after boot.
Posted: Sat 29 May 2010, 22:43
by Béèm
strange times of files in tmp after boot.
The red rectangle in the picture indicates the boot time.
Strangely enough, there are files which have a time 21 hours before the boot time.
How does this come?
Fortunately, important files like bootxxx.log seem to be correct.
Posted: Sat 29 May 2010, 23:24
by puppymartin
The new file lists of "builtin" packages in Quirky 1.2 makes it easy to uninstall apps before remastering.
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01620
I made a "builtin packages remover".
New version:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 950#422950
Posted: Sat 29 May 2010, 23:42
by Sylvander
The latest retro version 1.2rc will not boot on either of my two PC's, when the previous retro version 1.1 booted fine on both.
Re: strip is buggy
Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 01:27
by BarryK
tatemono wrote:/bin/e3 crashes after applying strip command to reduce its size.
By the way, strip of Puppy 4.3.1 has the same problem.
We know this. Why are you reporting this as a bug?
Re: too many vi
Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 01:29
by BarryK
tatemono wrote:I found 2 vi in Quirky 1.2rc.
One is /bin/vi, while the other is an alias, e3vi.
See blog:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01629
Re: Please apply shinobar's shell script to fix a bug in JWM
Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 01:50
by BarryK
tatemono wrote:After adding a suitable unicode TTF file to Quirky, SeaMonkey displays unicode characters. However, it does not display unicode characters in its title bar. For example, if you visit
http://map.yahoo.co.jp/, you cannot see the last 2 characters of "Yahoo!地図" displayed in title bar of SeaMonkey even if Android's TTF is added to the system.
In fact, this problem was solved by shinobar 11 months ago. Please apply his shell script, whose URL is
http://shino.pos.to/linux/puppy/jwm_font_repair.sh, to fix a bug in JWM's setting causing this problem.
No, shinobar's script breaks JWM.
The script changes all entries like "DejVu Sans-12" to "DejaVu Sans 12". However, I found long ago that doing that breaks JWM.
If you modify /root/.jwm/jwm-theme:
Code: Select all
<WindowStyle>
<Font>DejaVu Sans-14</Font>
...the title gets bigger, as expected. However, if you replace the '-' with a space, JWM ignores the size parameter, just uses the system default size, which is 12.
This is really a bug in JWM, it should be raised with the developer.
Re: clock setting
Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 01:55
by BarryK
Béèm wrote:I think, 95% of the users are unaware of the clock setting local/UTC and will be confused and won't know what to choose.
I think it's a too technical a question to ask.
Before the discussion on the issue, recently, I wasn't aware of this difference either.
The dialog window states that almost all Windows installations use localtime, also it states if in doubt choose localtime. So I don't see the problem.
Re: strange times of files in tmp after boot.
Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 01:58
by BarryK
Béèm wrote:strange times of files in tmp after boot.
The red rectangle in the picture indicates the boot time.
Strangely enough, there are files which have a time 21 hours before the boot time.
How does this come?
Fortunately, important files like bootxxx.log seem to be correct.
This is deliberate. I only need to know if it causes any trouble.
Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 02:00
by BarryK
puppymartin wrote:The new file lists of "builtin" packages in Quirky 1.2 makes it easy to uninstall apps before remastering.
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01620
I made a drag and drop "builtin packages remover".
Install the pet and open two windows:
Window 1: /root/my-applications/bin/remove_builtin_files
Window 2: /root/.packages/builtin_files
Now drag and drop (one by one) the files from window 2 to the script "remove.pl" in window 1
The maps "backup" and "removed" will show you what you did.
Make a backup of your safe-file before using this script!
A thought: when an application is "uninstalled", also delete it's entry in /root/.packages/builtin_files -- would be important thing to do if remastering.
Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 02:02
by jpeps
I've noticed that quirky seems to have difficulty with streaming videos. I tried several browsers after pfix=ram using various youtube videos, and then compared with 4.4, which played them all smoothly with no issues. I'm using a Dell latitude D600 with a gig of ram.
edit: Did more tests...problems consistent in quirky 110 & 112 across all browsers (FF, opera, seamonkey, google-cromium) for same youtube videos that run smoothly in 4.4. Videos stall, get out of sync, etc.