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Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 02:04
by BarryK
Sylvander wrote:The latest retro version 1.2rc will not boot on either of my two PC's, when the previous retro version 1.1 booted fine on both. :(
I don't know of any change between 1.1 and 1.2rc that would affect booting.

Please provide more details.

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 02:08
by jrb
/root/Choices/Mime-types/application_x-chm still reads
exec chmseeshell "$1"
/usr/share/mime/globs still contains
application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document:*.docx

Re: clock setting

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 03:56
by aarf
BarryK wrote:
Béèm wrote:I think, 95% of the users are unaware of the clock setting local/UTC and will be confused and won't know what to choose.

I think it's a too technical a question to ask.

Before the discussion on the issue, recently, I wasn't aware of this difference either.
The dialog window states that almost all Windows installations use localtime, also it states if in doubt choose localtime. So I don't see the problem.
if your not going to boot to desktop, minimal questions are preferable.
set default to localtime and alter it after desktop is reached if necessary.
my preference is also for get rid of that question.

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 07:51
by Sylvander
@BarryK
"Please provide more details."
1. Hardware:
PC1 = Compaq Deskpro EN made 1999.
256MB RAM, Pentium-3 800MHz CPU, PCI to IDE SCSI RAID controller card in use.

PC2 = non-proprietary tower of 2002, Asus A7A266, 3x256MB Ram, 1000MHz CPU.

2. Quirky.
(a) Originally Quirky 100 only on PC1.

(b) Updated PC1 to qret-104 worked fine.

(c) On PC2, brought qret-104 into use just fine.

(d) On PC's 1 & 2, attempted to update using CD-RW made using qret-112.
Boot got only as far as attempting loading of 2nd line = initrd.gz [if I remember right], and halting there for long time.
Eventually it reported the problem to me [warning dialog].

Re: strange times of files in tmp after boot.

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 08:43
by Béèm
BarryK wrote:
Béèm wrote:strange times of files in tmp after boot.
The red rectangle in the picture indicates the boot time.
Strangely enough, there are files which have a time 21 hours before the boot time.

How does this come?
Fortunately, important files like bootxxx.log seem to be correct.
This is deliberate. I only need to know if it causes any trouble.
OK then.
At first sight, it doesn't give trouble unless in case of in depth diagnostic purposes it is important to know when things have happened at which time.

strange jerky video in youtube.

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 09:02
by Béèm
strange jerky video in youtube (boot with pfix=ram)
I have now 1GB of RAM.
I noticed jerky video when playing from youtube owl city fireflies At that moment the temperature got high and warnings are issued. The laptop is very slow then.
I looked at some other video's and I didn't see that issue, until I played Beyonce Sweat Dreams (Official Music Video) + Lyrics where I had he same issue.

I was aware of the xf86-video-ati-6.13.0-q1 package and installed it and restarted X.
It didn't improve the issue. These two video's were still jerky.

Then I had the idea to replace, in xorg.conf, the radeon driver by the vesa driver, restarted X and did the tests again.
This time the video's played ok, but the laptop still runs hot.

Even when typing this, the fan is going often to cool the laptop.

So I don't know if this jerky video issue is a bug or not, but I wanted to report and also that vesa seems to make the video's run better.
Don't know what the effect of vesa is on my Ati mobility Radeon 7500 controller in comparison with the radeon driver.

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 10:44
by BarryK
jrb wrote:/root/Choices/Mime-types/application_x-chm still reads
exec chmseeshell "$1"
/usr/share/mime/globs still contains
application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document:*.docx
Hmmm, ok, I'll look at it again.

Re: clock setting

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 10:50
by BarryK
aarf wrote:
BarryK wrote:
Béèm wrote:I think, 95% of the users are unaware of the clock setting local/UTC and will be confused and won't know what to choose.

I think it's a too technical a question to ask.

Before the discussion on the issue, recently, I wasn't aware of this difference either.
The dialog window states that almost all Windows installations use localtime, also it states if in doubt choose localtime. So I don't see the problem.
if your not going to boot to desktop, minimal questions are preferable.
set default to localtime and alter it after desktop is reached if necessary.
my preference is also for get rid of that question.
Unfortunately the question has to be asked, for those who have their hardware clock set to UTC. For them, they will have the wrong time if localtime is assumed -- they would then have to run the X app to fix it. So, if we can let those few who set their clock to UTC be inconvenienced, then I guess we can drop the question.

Re: strange jerky video in youtube.

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 10:52
by BarryK
Béèm wrote:strange jerky video in youtube (boot with pfix=ram)
I have now 1GB of RAM.
I noticed jerky video when playing from youtube owl city fireflies At that moment the temperature got high and warnings are issued. The laptop is very slow then.
I looked at some other video's and I didn't see that issue, until I played Beyonce Sweat Dreams (Official Music Video) + Lyrics where I had he same issue.

I was aware of the xf86-video-ati-6.13.0-q1 package and installed it and restarted X.
It didn't improve the issue. These two video's were still jerky.

Then I had the idea to replace, in xorg.conf, the radeon driver by the vesa driver, restarted X and did the tests again.
This time the video's played ok, but the laptop still runs hot.

Even when typing this, the fan is going often to cool the laptop.

So I don't know if this jerky video issue is a bug or not, but I wanted to report and also that vesa seems to make the video's run better.
Don't know what the effect of vesa is on my Ati mobility Radeon 7500 controller in comparison with the radeon driver.
Q1.2rc doesn't have the latest Adobe Flash player, so I'm wondering if the latest player will improve things ...would you mind downloading and trying it?

Re: strip is buggy

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 10:56
by tatemono
BarryK wrote:
tatemono wrote:/bin/e3 crashes after applying strip command to reduce its size.
By the way, strip of Puppy 4.3.1 has the same problem.
We know this. Why are you reporting this as a bug?
The file length of stripped /bin/e3 is 208 bytes. I don't think e3 is such a trivial program that its file length is just 208 bytes. Therefore, I suspect that /usr/bin/strip cuts off too many bytes.

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 13:14
by puppymartin
GUI-version of the Quirky 1.2 "builtin packages remover"

- Menu-entry in Utility
- My first steps on gtkdialog, so ...
- Backup your save-file before using this

See what you did in the maps:
/root/my-applications/bin/remove_builtin_files/backup
/root/my-applications/bin/remove_builtin_files/removed

(My bad English: buildin must be builtin... :? )

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 14:03
by wuwei
Quirky 112 is a wonderful piece of art. Thank you Barry.

It detects nVidia graphics right out of the box. And...the pppoe connection is retained during reboots. I just had to symlink /usr/sbin/pppoe-start_shell to /root/Startup and it works. Very happy about it.

YET...there is still one problem with pppoe. The once established pppoe connection turns itself off during longer inactive periods.
E.g. when I get my emails and then write a lengthy reply. It is not possible to send the answer because the connection has shut off while I was writing.
This seems to be a new bug and was not present in older Puppies (421, 431, 432).

Apply Current GTK theme to JWM

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 14:54
by ljfr
Hi,

This may have been here for a while, this JWM configuration option "Apply Current GTK theme to JWM" is buggy. In the file /usr/local/jwmconfig2/gtk2jwm:

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MENU_BG=`grep -v "^#" $GTKTHEME | grep -m1 '\Wbg\[NORMAL\]' | cut -d'"' -f2`
ACTIVE_BG=`grep -v "^#" $GTKTHEME | grep -m1 '\Wbg\[SELECTED\]' | cut -d'"' -f2`
FOREGROUND=`grep -v "^#" $GTKTHEME | grep -m1 '\Wfg\[NORMAL\]' | cut -d'"' -f2`
PAGER_BG=`grep -v "^#" $GTKTHEME | grep -m1 '\Wbg\[ACTIVE\]' | cut -d'"' -f2`
FG_SELECTED=`grep -v "^#" $GTKTHEME | grep -m1 '\Wfg\[SELECTED\]' | cut -d'"' -f2`
the grep -v "^#" filter failed, and anyway most of these colors are not defined in the gtkrc files anymore.

regards,

Re: strange jerky video in youtube.

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 16:12
by jpeps
BarryK wrote: Q1.2rc doesn't have the latest Adobe Flash player, so I'm wondering if the latest player will improve things ...would you mind downloading and trying it?
That doesn't seem to matter. As a followup to my previous post, I updated
to 10.0.45.2...same issue.

4.4 has 10.0.32.18 installed, without issue. I updated it to 10.0.45.2 and it still worked smoothly.

Here's the video I tested, although all others had the same problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR66wYYJ ... e=featured

pdict update

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 16:22
by ecube
I have made a few minor changes to pdict (the dict GUI). The following functions are added
  • At first run a hidden configuration file /root/.dict_dbs is created. The file contains a list of all dict databases.

    A config button added, so you can edit your configuration file and save databases of interest.

    For "perhaps you mean" help, stderr output is added to the result window.
:D
ecube

Re: strange jerky video in youtube.

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 19:41
by Béèm
BarryK wrote:
Béèm wrote:strange jerky video in youtube (boot with pfix=ram)
I have now 1GB of RAM.
I noticed jerky video when playing from youtube owl city fireflies At that moment the temperature got high and warnings are issued. The laptop is very slow then.
I looked at some other video's and I didn't see that issue, until I played Beyonce Sweat Dreams (Official Music Video) + Lyrics where I had he same issue.

I was aware of the xf86-video-ati-6.13.0-q1 package and installed it and restarted X.
It didn't improve the issue. These two video's were still jerky.

Then I had the idea to replace, in xorg.conf, the radeon driver by the vesa driver, restarted X and did the tests again.
This time the video's played ok, but the laptop still runs hot.

Even when typing this, the fan is going often to cool the laptop.

So I don't know if this jerky video issue is a bug or not, but I wanted to report and also that vesa seems to make the video's run better.
Don't know what the effect of vesa is on my Ati mobility Radeon 7500 controller in comparison with the radeon driver.
Q1.2rc doesn't have the latest Adobe Flash player, so I'm wondering if the latest player will improve things ...would you mind downloading and trying it?
OK I'll do that.
Coolpup was so nice to make it available.

Re: strange jerky video in youtube.

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 19:58
by Béèm
jpeps wrote:
BarryK wrote: Q1.2rc doesn't have the latest Adobe Flash player, so I'm wondering if the latest player will improve things ...would you mind downloading and trying it?
That doesn't seem to matter. As a followup to my previous post, I updated
to 10.0.45.2...same issue.

4.4 has 10.0.32.18 installed, without issue. I updated it to 10.0.45.2 and it still worked smoothly.

Here's the video I tested, although all others had the same problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR66wYYJ ... e=featured
I am in the latest lucid (200) and this video doesn't give problems. Flashplayer is at 10.0.r32 so about:plugins reports.

Re: strange jerky video in youtube.

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 20:02
by jpeps
Béèm wrote:
OK I'll do that.
Coolpup was so nice to make it available.
...just download from Adobe and cp /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin/libflashplayer.so

....anyway, don't think that's the issue

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 21:38
by Jim1911
Tried your new xsane pet with my HP 5280 usb all-in-one. It did not work, cannot find a scanner, even after unplugging and replacing the usb cable. Scanner works fine with ubuntu/Kubuntu.

However, everything else is working great with your latest Quirky. It's solid and very fast on my hardware.

Thanks,
Jim

System: BFG NVIDIA Geforce 8400 GS 512MB, Asus P6T Motherboard, Intel core i7-920 (8MB Cache, 2.66 GHz), DDR3 3GB 1333MHz ram, Pioneer DVR-2910 DVD+-RW Dual Layer Burner, Realtek ALC1200 Audio, HP Photosmart 5280 All-in-One

Posted: Sun 30 May 2010, 21:49
by DaveS
Love Quirky but can only run it for a few mins as it overheats CPU :(