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Béèm


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PostPosted: Sun 30 May 2010, 05:02    Post subject: strange jerky video in youtube.
Subject description: quirky 1.2		  
strange jerky video in youtube (boot with pfix=ram)
I have now 1GB of RAM.
I noticed jerky video when playing from youtube owl city fireflies At that moment the temperature got high and warnings are issued. The laptop is very slow then.
I looked at some other video's and I didn't see that issue, until I played Beyonce Sweat Dreams (Official Music Video) + Lyrics where I had he same issue.

I was aware of the xf86-video-ati-6.13.0-q1 package and installed it and restarted X.
It didn't improve the issue. These two video's were still jerky.

Then I had the idea to replace, in xorg.conf, the radeon driver by the vesa driver, restarted X and did the tests again.
This time the video's played ok, but the laptop still runs hot.

Even when typing this, the fan is going often to cool the laptop.

So I don't know if this jerky video issue is a bug or not, but I wanted to report and also that vesa seems to make the video's run better.
Don't know what the effect of vesa is on my Ati mobility Radeon 7500 controller in comparison with the radeon driver.
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Sun 30 May 2010, 06:44    Post subject:  
jrb wrote:
/root/Choices/Mime-types/application_x-chm still reads
Quote:
exec chmseeshell "$1"

/usr/share/mime/globs still contains
Quote:
application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document:*.docx


Hmmm, ok, I'll look at it again.
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PostPosted: Sun 30 May 2010, 06:50    Post subject: Re: clock setting
Subject description: quirky 1.2rc		  
aarf wrote:
BarryK wrote:
Béèm wrote:
I think, 95% of the users are unaware of the clock setting local/UTC and will be confused and won't know what to choose.

I think it's a too technical a question to ask.

Before the discussion on the issue, recently, I wasn't aware of this difference either.


The dialog window states that almost all Windows installations use localtime, also it states if in doubt choose localtime. So I don't see the problem.

if your not going to boot to desktop, minimal questions are preferable.
set default to localtime and alter it after desktop is reached if necessary.
my preference is also for get rid of that question.


Unfortunately the question has to be asked, for those who have their hardware clock set to UTC. For them, they will have the wrong time if localtime is assumed -- they would then have to run the X app to fix it. So, if we can let those few who set their clock to UTC be inconvenienced, then I guess we can drop the question.
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PostPosted: Sun 30 May 2010, 06:52    Post subject: Re: strange jerky video in youtube.
Subject description: quirky 1.2		  
Béèm wrote:
strange jerky video in youtube (boot with pfix=ram)
I have now 1GB of RAM.
I noticed jerky video when playing from youtube owl city fireflies At that moment the temperature got high and warnings are issued. The laptop is very slow then.
I looked at some other video's and I didn't see that issue, until I played Beyonce Sweat Dreams (Official Music Video) + Lyrics where I had he same issue.

I was aware of the xf86-video-ati-6.13.0-q1 package and installed it and restarted X.
It didn't improve the issue. These two video's were still jerky.

Then I had the idea to replace, in xorg.conf, the radeon driver by the vesa driver, restarted X and did the tests again.
This time the video's played ok, but the laptop still runs hot.

Even when typing this, the fan is going often to cool the laptop.

So I don't know if this jerky video issue is a bug or not, but I wanted to report and also that vesa seems to make the video's run better.
Don't know what the effect of vesa is on my Ati mobility Radeon 7500 controller in comparison with the radeon driver.


Q1.2rc doesn't have the latest Adobe Flash player, so I'm wondering if the latest player will improve things ...would you mind downloading and trying it?
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PostPosted: Sun 30 May 2010, 06:56    Post subject: Re: strip is buggy  
BarryK wrote:
tatemono wrote:
/bin/e3 crashes after applying strip command to reduce its size.
By the way, strip of Puppy 4.3.1 has the same problem.


We know this. Why are you reporting this as a bug?


The file length of stripped /bin/e3 is 208 bytes. I don't think e3 is such a trivial program that its file length is just 208 bytes. Therefore, I suspect that /usr/bin/strip cuts off too many bytes.
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puppymartin


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Location: The Netherlands
PostPosted: Sun 30 May 2010, 09:14    Post subject:  
GUI-version of the Quirky 1.2 "builtin packages remover"

- Menu-entry in Utility
- My first steps on gtkdialog, so ...
- Backup your save-file before using this

See what you did in the maps:
/root/my-applications/bin/remove_builtin_files/backup
/root/my-applications/bin/remove_builtin_files/removed

(My bad English: buildin must be builtin... Confused )
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wuwei


Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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Location: de
PostPosted: Sun 30 May 2010, 10:03    Post subject:  
Quirky 112 is a wonderful piece of art. Thank you Barry.

It detects nVidia graphics right out of the box. And...the pppoe connection is retained during reboots. I just had to symlink /usr/sbin/pppoe-start_shell to /root/Startup and it works. Very happy about it.

YET...there is still one problem with pppoe. The once established pppoe connection turns itself off during longer inactive periods.
E.g. when I get my emails and then write a lengthy reply. It is not possible to send the answer because the connection has shut off while I was writing.
This seems to be a new bug and was not present in older Puppies (421, 431, 432).
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ljfr

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PostPosted: Sun 30 May 2010, 10:54    Post subject: Apply Current GTK theme to JWM  
Hi,

This may have been here for a while, this JWM configuration option "Apply Current GTK theme to JWM" is buggy. In the file /usr/local/jwmconfig2/gtk2jwm:

Code:

MENU_BG=`grep -v "^#" $GTKTHEME | grep -m1 '\Wbg\[NORMAL\]' | cut -d'"' -f2`
ACTIVE_BG=`grep -v "^#" $GTKTHEME | grep -m1 '\Wbg\[SELECTED\]' | cut -d'"' -f2`
FOREGROUND=`grep -v "^#" $GTKTHEME | grep -m1 '\Wfg\[NORMAL\]' | cut -d'"' -f2`
PAGER_BG=`grep -v "^#" $GTKTHEME | grep -m1 '\Wbg\[ACTIVE\]' | cut -d'"' -f2`
FG_SELECTED=`grep -v "^#" $GTKTHEME | grep -m1 '\Wfg\[SELECTED\]' | cut -d'"' -f2`


the grep -v "^#" filter failed, and anyway most of these colors are not defined in the gtkrc files anymore.

regards,
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PostPosted: Sun 30 May 2010, 12:12    Post subject: Re: strange jerky video in youtube.
Subject description: quirky 1.2		  
BarryK wrote:

Q1.2rc doesn't have the latest Adobe Flash player, so I'm wondering if the latest player will improve things ...would you mind downloading and trying it?


That doesn't seem to matter. As a followup to my previous post, I updated
to 10.0.45.2...same issue.

4.4 has 10.0.32.18 installed, without issue. I updated it to 10.0.45.2 and it still worked smoothly.

Here's the video I tested, although all others had the same problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR66wYYJrpM&playnext_from=TL&videos=c-7wUwHTK4Q&feature=featured
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Location: Västerås, Sweden
PostPosted: Sun 30 May 2010, 12:22    Post subject: pdict update  
I have made a few minor changes to pdict (the dict GUI). The following functions are added

    At first run a hidden configuration file /root/.dict_dbs is created. The file contains a list of all dict databases.

    A config button added, so you can edit your configuration file and save databases of interest.

    For "perhaps you mean" help, stderr output is added to the result window.

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PostPosted: Sun 30 May 2010, 15:41    Post subject: Re: strange jerky video in youtube.
Subject description: quirky 1.2		  
BarryK wrote:
Béèm wrote:
strange jerky video in youtube (boot with pfix=ram)
I have now 1GB of RAM.
I noticed jerky video when playing from youtube owl city fireflies At that moment the temperature got high and warnings are issued. The laptop is very slow then.
I looked at some other video's and I didn't see that issue, until I played Beyonce Sweat Dreams (Official Music Video) + Lyrics where I had he same issue.

I was aware of the xf86-video-ati-6.13.0-q1 package and installed it and restarted X.
It didn't improve the issue. These two video's were still jerky.

Then I had the idea to replace, in xorg.conf, the radeon driver by the vesa driver, restarted X and did the tests again.
This time the video's played ok, but the laptop still runs hot.

Even when typing this, the fan is going often to cool the laptop.

So I don't know if this jerky video issue is a bug or not, but I wanted to report and also that vesa seems to make the video's run better.
Don't know what the effect of vesa is on my Ati mobility Radeon 7500 controller in comparison with the radeon driver.


Q1.2rc doesn't have the latest Adobe Flash player, so I'm wondering if the latest player will improve things ...would you mind downloading and trying it?
OK I'll do that.
Coolpup was so nice to make it available.
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PostPosted: Sun 30 May 2010, 15:58    Post subject: Re: strange jerky video in youtube.
Subject description: quirky 1.2		  
jpeps wrote:
BarryK wrote:

Q1.2rc doesn't have the latest Adobe Flash player, so I'm wondering if the latest player will improve things ...would you mind downloading and trying it?


That doesn't seem to matter. As a followup to my previous post, I updated
to 10.0.45.2...same issue.

4.4 has 10.0.32.18 installed, without issue. I updated it to 10.0.45.2 and it still worked smoothly.

Here's the video I tested, although all others had the same problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR66wYYJrpM&playnext_from=TL&videos=c-7wUwHTK4Q&feature=featured
I am in the latest lucid (200) and this video doesn't give problems. Flashplayer is at 10.0.r32 so about:plugins reports.
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PostPosted: Sun 30 May 2010, 16:02    Post subject: Re: strange jerky video in youtube.
Subject description: quirky 1.2		  
Béèm wrote:


OK I'll do that.
Coolpup was so nice to make it available.


...just download from Adobe and cp /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin/libflashplayer.so

....anyway, don't think that's the issue
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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Sun 30 May 2010, 17:38    Post subject:
Subject description: xsane-0.997-patched-q1.pet		  
Tried your new xsane pet with my HP 5280 usb all-in-one. It did not work, cannot find a scanner, even after unplugging and replacing the usb cable. Scanner works fine with ubuntu/Kubuntu.

However, everything else is working great with your latest Quirky. It's solid and very fast on my hardware.

Thanks,
Jim

System: BFG NVIDIA Geforce 8400 GS 512MB, Asus P6T Motherboard, Intel core i7-920 (8MB Cache, 2.66 GHz), DDR3 3GB 1333MHz ram, Pioneer DVR-2910 DVD+-RW Dual Layer Burner, Realtek ALC1200 Audio, HP Photosmart 5280 All-in-One
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PostPosted: Sun 30 May 2010, 17:49    Post subject:  
Love Quirky but can only run it for a few mins as it overheats CPU Sad
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