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some applications to try out

#661 Post by don570 »

I have some applications for you to try out:

mtpaintsnapshot.sh 1.2 will open and save to screenshots folder
as the default when taking a screenshot
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-cf582c86.html

Screenshotbrowser will open the Screenshots folder and edit images there
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-501053b3.html

latest version of mtpaint 3.34.63
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-5b44e99f.html

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right click for a folder

#662 Post by don570 »

I've just discovered that there is a built-in application
called 'dir2tgz'

It would be useful to have a right click entry for
folders when using Rox Filer so this app was readily available.

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gnac in Fluppy010

#663 Post by don570 »

I noticed GNAC sound converter program in
Fluppy010. It requires gstreamer to be installed.
It's a nicely written and powerful program. Check it out.

http://gnac.sourceforge.net/

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Re: JWM TrayStyle font, right click for a folder

#664 Post by tazoc »

don570 wrote:I recommend that you increase the font size in the tray by a point.

I changed the line in .jwmrc-theme to the following:

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<TrayStyle>
<Font> Luxi Sans-11 </Font>
and the clock appeared nicer.
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I've just discovered that there is a built-in application
called 'dir2tgz'

It would be useful to have a right click entry for
folders when using Rox Filer so this app was readily available.
Yes, both good ideas! I've added these to 5.02, updated /sbin/dir2tgz for use in the context menu or terminal and also added dir2sfs to directory context menu.

Will try out the new mtpaint.
Thanks,
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How to use full partition for VirtualBox virtual disk images

#665 Post by tazoc »

I received a PM about VirtualBox filling up the LHPsave and I think my reply might help others:

Exit VirtualBox, copy .VirtualBox from /root to /mnt/home (uses full partition) or wherever your desired drive is mounted, remove /root/.VirtualBox, then symlink back to /root (in ROX make the link by dragging the new .VirtualBox folder back to /root and click Link (absolute).

Or copy and paste into a terminal:

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cp -afT --remove-destination /root/.VirtualBox /mnt/home/LHP_Programs/.VirtualBox
rm -fR /root/.VirtualBox
ln -snfT /mnt/home/LHP_Programs/.VirtualBox /root/.VirtualBox
or in LHP 501 and later, use frugal-symlink--one simple command with a preset destination of /mnt/home/LHP_501_Programs/ and checks for sufficent free space:

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#Free up space in the pupsave by moving and symlinking SOURCE_DIR with /usr/sbin/frugal-symlink to a subdir in /mnt/home/
# (in a frugal install) subdir ex: /mnt/home[/PSUBDIR]/LHP_501_Programs/DEST_DIR

#frugal-symlink SOURCE_DIR   DEST_DIR &
frugal-symlink /root/.VirtualBox .VirtualBox & # <--just paste this line into a terminal
If you uninstall VirtualBox later, repeat the same command with '--remove' to remove both the symlink and destination:

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frugal-symlink /root/.VirtualBox .VirtualBox --remove & 
This is how I run several OS in VirtualBox, inc Win 7, WinXP, LHP and a few other puppies--all outside of my LHPsave.

If you use a partition other than /mnt/home, make sure it is mounted before starting VirtualBox. You can do that automatically at boot with StartMount, in the File System or System | Hardware Settings menu.
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#666 Post by Béèm »

tazoc wrote:
Béèm wrote:But still wonder if there are differences between 500G and Lucid 516 concerning the ipw2100 support.
Hi Beem,
That's nice to hear--previous reports on Wireless were that LHP had problems where Luci didn't! All I know is there are some differences between LHP and Luci that may or may not be related to ipw2100 support. LHP has 3 ipw2200 firmware files pre-extracted in /lib/firmware/, e.g., ipw2200-bss.fw. I haven't checked 516, but Luci 239 and 517 share a slightly different kernel (same release, but different version) than LHP's. LHP has an updated Network Wizard, net_setup-20101020, but that is also in Luci 517. Luci has Barry's simple_network_setup, which I haven't included as yet.
-TazOC
I mounted the 516 sfs and the 2100 firmware files are in a tar.gz and there are of the same size and date as those in your LH.

I'll address the issue in the Lucid thread also.
I already reported the disappearing nameserver entry to playdayz, but he apparently has no clue on what happens, but now I have reference of a working distro.

Happy Newyear for you and your family.
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#667 Post by its-me-again »

Just a few things i need clarification on. can you please update .sts to latest versions. such as pidgin. you have made a pet. for 2.7.7 good job. but are there sfs being done.

the new lhp update is great. thanks for considering adding latest.sfs versions for them. or, as i believe, in the past are they included in an update so only one sfs file is needed and updated from there.


also pidgin 2.7.7 pet is not working properly. not dislpaying things or even able to loggin.

also is it ok to use the auto update feature in apps such as firefox. i know that in windows os you can get viruses thru it. and a downloading is better.

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#668 Post by tazoc »

its-me-again wrote:also pidgin 2.7.7 pet is not working properly. not dislpaying things or even able to loggin.

also is it ok to use the auto update feature in apps such as firefox. i know that in windows os you can get viruses thru it. and a downloading is better.
Yes, I use the FF and SM auto updates regularly, as they come often, it is the easiest way to stay current. I haven't seen any spyware or bugs from Mozilla.

Which IM service can't you login to and a screen shot of Pidgin might help us help you. I rarely chat, so maybe others can assist. I don't think I should update the Pidgin SFS unless the Pet is working.
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#669 Post by its-me-again »

tazoc wrote:]Yes, I use the FF and SM auto updates regularly, as they come often, it is the easiest way to stay current. I haven't seen any spyware or bugs from Mozilla.

Which IM service can't you login to and a screen shot of Pidgin might help us help you. I rarely chat, so maybe others can assist. I don't think I should update the Pidgin SFS unless the Pet is working.
-TazOC
its nothing to do with a articular im service its the whole application. nothing works. I would prefer an sfs. to cut the size of the save file down.


also do you now find that sfs files are no longer as atable or good as .pet ones.

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#670 Post by Béèm »

its-me-again, I prefer sfs as well, but if the pet doesn't work it's no use to make a sfs out of it.
Tazoc has requested more info, screen shots, but all you reply is: 'it doesn't work'.
That's not helpful for Tazoc to make a diagnosis on.
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#671 Post by ICPUG »

I'm back after my delayed Christmas break, during which I was away from my PC so had little time to do any Puppy work.

One thing I did do was look at the Radky's Puppy Control Panel and PupApps tools.

The control panel seemed to work fine. I need to test the flsynclient .pet and try integrating that as well.

The PupApps panel worked fine but I have a comment regarding the programs shown in the categories. All except Business are OK - although I am not sure of the need for a separate Documents Category.

I think the Business category should include:
Abiword (and/or Open Office Write if Mariner is installed)
Gnumeric (and/or Open Office Calc if Mariner is installed)
Impress (if Mariner is installed)
PDF Reader

Consideration should be given to the following (which I have copied from the Asus EEE):
E-Mail Program
File Manager
Notes
An assessories section under Business has a calculator, a PIM and screen capture. Not sure about the latter for Business but the first two are relevant.

Although this a personal taste I do find the omission of a spreadsheet app from any category is not acceptable. In business, particularly, these are used a lot. Even in home use a spreadsheet is good for a simple database.

Despite my comments, these are great little apps.

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#672 Post by ICPUG »

Sage,

I agree with your comment about a well stocked repository.

If I remember rightly, you are an advocate of the full install method, rather than the frugal install. I think your comment regarding SFS files being undesirable may be made in that light.

SFS files are more or less useless to the full install - but they are very useful to us frugalists, especially in conjunction with SFS Linker - a facility you just do not get with a full install.

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upgrade to pmusic 1.5.2

#673 Post by don570 »

note to Tazoc:

I highly recommend that you upgrade to pmusic 1.5.2
from version 1.4.2 for several reasons.

1) Stability. Previous versions would crash when I opened
a menu item.

2) Audio CD's will now play properly on my machine.
I previously had a problem with the motor racing too quickly.

3) Scripts have been rewritten to make them quicker,
making for a more enjoyable experience.
Switching window modes is now instantaneous on my IBM desktop.

4) While a song is playing in background you can continue to
add music to a playlist .

5) Changes have been made to the interface that make sense.

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#674 Post by radky »

ICPUG wrote:The control panel seemed to work fine. I need to test the flsynclient .pet and try integrating that as well.
flsynclient is included in the upcoming PupControl-1.2.
ICPUG wrote:The PupApps panel worked fine but I have a comment regarding the programs shown in the categories. All except Business are OK - although I am not sure of the need for a separate Documents Category.

I think the Business category should include:
Abiword (and/or Open Office Write if Mariner is installed)
Gnumeric (and/or Open Office Calc if Mariner is installed)
Impress (if Mariner is installed)
PDF Reader

Consideration should be given to the following (which I have copied from the Asus EEE):
E-Mail Program
File Manager
Notes
An assessories section under Business has a calculator, a PIM and screen capture. Not sure about the latter for Business but the first two are relevant.

Although this a personal taste I do find the omission of a spreadsheet app from any category is not acceptable. In business, particularly, these are used a lot. Even in home use a spreadsheet is good for a simple database.
Hi ICPUG,

Thanks for taking time to look at PupApps and PupControl. I think we both agree that the choice of entries in an application launcher or control panel can be a matter of personal taste. There are always a few entries that could fit equally well in more than one general category or subcategory -- for example, some of the entries that are included in the Documents category of PupApps could be placed comfortably in the Business category. However, I did not wish to overload one category with too many entries, and thereby under-utilize another category. Consequently, I divided PupApps into six main categories -- Business, Documents, Graphics, Internet, Multimedia and Utilities. In turn, each main category is divided into eight subcategories -- each of which can be populated with your selection of installed apps as shown in the Preferences manager.

Generally, if you do not have an installed application for a specific subcategory, or have not selected one in the Preferences manager, then that specific subcategory does not display in the PupApps or PupControl GUI. I say this because you indicated a spreadsheet app was not available in PupApps, yet it is quickly available as one of the eight subcategories in the Business section. Abiword (under Word Processor) and PDF Reader are available in the Documents category, and Impress is an option under Presentation in the Graphics category. E-mail is under Internet, while Calculator, Notes and PIM will be found in the Business category under Calculator, Notebook and Schedule Manager respectively. All of these categories are familiar to most users, and mimic the main menu structure found in most Puppy releases. Also, the file manager option is quickly available at all times in the PupApps tray, so I see no reason to include it again in the Business category. Please keep in mind, after installing PupApps (or PupControl), the initial GUI will be underpopulated until you go to the Preferences manager (Pref) and select apps from your installed base. Those selected apps will then appear in the appropriate subcategory as shown below.

Thanks again ICPUG for your thoughts. :) New versions (PupApps-1.2 and PupControl-1.2) should be available soon.

Business
Calculator
Database
Finance Manager
Gmeasures
Notebook (Notes)
Schedule Manager (PIM)
Spreadsheet
Time Manager

Documents
Book Reader
HTML Editor
PDF Manager
PDF Reader
Publisher
Scanner
Text Editor
WordProcessor

Graphics
Bitmap Editor
3D Creation
Diagram Editor
Image Viewer
Paint Program
Presentation
Screen Capture
Vector Editor

Internet
Browser
Chat
Download
E-Mail
FTP
P2P
Streaming
VoIP

Multimedia
Audio Mixer
Audio/CD Player
Audio Editor/Recorder
Burniso2cd
CD Ripper
ISO Master
Media Player
Video Editor

Tray
CD/DVD Burner
File Manager
File Finder
File Archiver

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#675 Post by Q5sys »

TazOC,
I was bored today so I compiled the latest kernel that BK has the patched source for (2.6.35.7). Everything worked well and didnt have any issues... well thats not entirely true. I apparently killed all of the wireless drivers when I did it. Not quite sure how I managed to do that... but yea, ethernet worked well still. lol

If anyone wants to play with it... Here it is: http://rapidshare.com/files/441030576/kernel.tar

I'm also building the latest Intel Graphics driver, but I'm not sure how stable it'll be. I took a peek at where it is in dev with other distros... It hasnt even made it to the unstable branch... its still way out there in experimental land. lol But I'll give it a go.



Another question for you though, It's happened a few times with 5F, for some random reason a save file in Frugal will fail to load the WM. X loads, and then immediately unloads. I've check the logs and Im getting no errors. The save files load fine... and I can browse my files in /root/ and other dirs fine from the command line... I just cant get X to load and stay loaded. No matter what WM I try it just kicks me back out to the prompt the same was as if I shut down X manually.
Any ideas?
I've tried running xorgwizard and going back through that process but then the system hangs and I have to do a hard reboot. However... all I need to do is load my backup of my save file and it works fine.
I'm totally lost as to what might be causing it.

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#676 Post by tazoc »

Q5sys wrote:No matter what WM I try it just kicks me back out to the prompt the same was as if I shut down X manually.
Any ideas?
I've tried running xorgwizard and going back through that process but then the system hangs and I have to do a hard reboot. However... all I need to do is load my backup of my save file and it works fine.
If this is with the new kernel maybe try with the one in LHP. Have you tried deleting xorg.conf when running xorgwizard? When X dumps back to CL, type mp /tmp/root/xerrs.log and mp /var/log/Xorg.0.log. There should be a clue in one of those logs, unless kms is stuffing things up.

I've added the fbcon (frame buffer console) kernel modules to the initrd so that I can run CL at 800x600 (vga=788) and I'm going to test it with nouveau kms to see if it is compatible. I read somewhere that kms may require fbcon and I'm thinking maybe? that is why we get a blank screen when booting Intel graphics without kms. If not, and fbcon causes any difficulty, I'll take it out again.
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VNC problems

#677 Post by nickdobrinich »

Has anyone gotten x11vncserver / TightVnc client working on LHP 5G Mariner?
Server seems to come up ok as a service on one machine.
Client immediately aborts on the second without an error message.
Testing on my internal network, no ports blocked.
Also tried RealVNC with same result.

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#678 Post by Q5sys »

tazoc wrote:
Q5sys wrote:No matter what WM I try it just kicks me back out to the prompt the same was as if I shut down X manually.
Any ideas?
I've tried running xorgwizard and going back through that process but then the system hangs and I have to do a hard reboot. However... all I need to do is load my backup of my save file and it works fine.
If this is with the new kernel maybe try with the one in LHP. Have you tried deleting xorg.conf when running xorgwizard? When X dumps back to CL, type mp /tmp/root/xerrs.log and mp /var/log/Xorg.0.log. There should be a clue in one of those logs, unless kms is stuffing things up.

I've added the fbcon (frame buffer console) kernel modules to the initrd so that I can run CL at 800x600 (vga=788) and I'm going to test it with nouveau kms to see if it is compatible. I read somewhere that kms may require fbcon and I'm thinking maybe? that is why we get a blank screen when booting Intel graphics without kms. If not, and fbcon causes any difficulty, I'll take it out again.
-TazOC
No my WM/save file issues are with the normal kernel with LHP. Until I redo it with the wireless modules i'm not using the new kernel for anything other than compiling the newest Intel drivers.
I've checked those log files and they dont contain anything. I dont think X is crashing... I just think something is forcing it to close. I just cant seem to figure out what.
I tried deleting the xorg.conf and when I run xorgwizard after I just get a dead black screen...even when manually choosing xvesa in the wizard.
I know its something I'm doing in the save file... I just dont know what. At first I thought it was possibly an error cropping up if I run out of space in the save file and some important file isnt getting written when x shuts down at a reboot... but when it has happened when I've had 50mb free left in my save file... I dont think its that... unless I didnt clear a broswer cache or something before rebooting.
I dont feel its a bug in LHP... just a error in something i'm doing. I'm just hoping to figure out what it is... so I dont have to make new save files occasionaly.
Which actually raises a question. I may have asked this before but I cant remember... if I have let me know. I know you can mount a normal save file (no encrytion) at the CLI with

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mount -o loop savefilenamehere.2fs /mnt/folderyouwant
But do you know how to manually load and mount an encrypted save file from the CLI?
nickdobrinich wrote:Has anyone gotten x11vncserver / TightVnc client working on LHP 5G Mariner?
Server seems to come up ok as a service on one machine.
Client immediately aborts on the second without an error message.
Testing on my internal network, no ports blocked.
Also tried RealVNC with same result.
I never had a problem in 5F Mariner... but I cant comment to G. If you have wireshark on your system you can try loading it and capturing the packets to see if there is something network wise thats not causing it to connect. If that fails you could try to strace the viewer and posting the log here, and someone can see if they can figure it out. run the following from the command line.

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strace -o viewer.log vncviewer
(replace vncviewer with whatever the actual command is to load the client program... i dont recall off the top of my head)
Then gzip the log that it creates and upload it here for someone to take a peek at.

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#679 Post by tazoc »

Q5sys wrote:I dont think X is crashing... I just think something is forcing it to close. I just cant seem to figure out what.
I tried deleting the xorg.conf and when I run xorgwizard after I just get a dead black screen...even when manually choosing xvesa in the wizard.
I know its something I'm doing in the save file... I just dont know what.
If you have these files in /etc/modprobe.d/

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i915.conf
nouveau.conf
radeon.conf
remove them. You can run sys-info from CL and post /tmp/root/sys-info-110107.gz. If not G also cat /proc/cmdline is helpful. The other idea I have is to try pfix=clean to simulate a version upgrade.
But do you know how to manually load and mount an encrypted save file from the CLI?
I haven't tried that but reading the init script I see that

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modprobe cryptoloop #note, cryptoloop does not work with jounalled fs, hence have to use ext2 only
is used for basic encryption and

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modprobe cryptoloop
modprobe aes_generic
modprobe aes  #for older kernel <2.6.25
modprobe crypto_blkcipher #v407 blkcipher name change.
modprobe blkcipher  #old kernel.
modprobe cbc
for aes encryption. The commands used to mount in the init (adjusted for manual usage) are

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losetup -E 1 /dev/loop2 <encrypted.2fs>
e2fsck -y -f /dev/loop2
resize2fs -pf /dev/loop2
mount -t ext2 -o noatime,rw /dev/loop2 /mnt/data
and for aes:

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echo "$MYPASS" | losetup -p 0 -e aes /dev/loop2 <encrypted.2fs>
e2fsck -y -f /dev/loop2
resize2fs -pf /dev/loop2
mount -t ext2 -o noatime,rw /dev/loop2 /mnt/data
-TazOC
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#680 Post by Brown Mouse »

I cant seem to get the default email client to work.When clicking on the desktop icon nothing happens.

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