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aarf

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Jun 2010, 01:53    Post subject:  

initial assessment: 02 default desktop was stunning with the white high-lites, 03 is approaching quirkys universal grey. not so good for the color blind. icon looks to much like footbrawl though Wink
03 >wifi works Very Happy

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aarf

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Jun 2010, 08:32    Post subject:  

about 3 hrs surfing. getting some short freezes in opera 10.60 which had mostly disappeared in peee-rc5. on one long freeze tried to kill opera and it then needed ctrl+alt+backspace to proceed. last fsck was all clean after restart X. wifi holding superbly. haven't test other things. fsck on opera's partition still clean.
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jemimah


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PostPosted: Mon 14 Jun 2010, 12:48    Post subject:  

I'm still working on mastering the fine art of making wallpapers with mtPaint. Very Happy

If you don't like the grey, there are several more options to choose from in /usr/share/backgrounds. I also take user-submitted wallpapers if I like them.
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gerry

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Jun 2010, 17:43    Post subject:  

I'm getting on ok with fluppy 2, do I need Fluppy 3 or 4? Can I keep the same save file (using frugal install) and just replace the sfs?

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jemimah


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PostPosted: Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:21    Post subject:  

You can keep the same save file - make a backup first, it upgrades automatically.

I recommend testing first without a save file, just so you know any bugs you find aren't save file related.

(You need to replace all the files, not just the sfs or it probably won't work)
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DC


Joined: 30 Apr 2006
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Location: Maidenhead, England

PostPosted: Tue 15 Jun 2010, 03:56    Post subject:  

Hi jemimah,
Testing 003 on a HP laptop centrino duo with a full install

First tried upgrading 002 (which was working fine).
problem - all the desktop icons disappeared ? except the drive icons.
everything else seemed to work fine
I did make the 003 ISO myself from 002 ISO so that could have caused it

reinstalled 003 (full) completely all seems to be working fine.

One very good point for me. I have a 20" screen plugged in to my laptop
When watching BBC iplayer I can now have full screen video (1680x1050)
this works in chrome and opera

In other puppies when I switch to full screen I get a window top left showing the laptop screen resolution (1024x768) and the rest of the 20" screen freezes.
It would be nice to know why your build works and other puppies don't.

thanks

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jemimah


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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jun 2010, 08:20    Post subject:  

I switched the icon theme since the last version. If anyone else gets the icon problem with upgrades, just use the Rox Icon Switcher to switch the theme and the icons will be fixed.

If your full screen video works in Quirky you can probably blame your freeze on Xorg 7.3 or the old kernel. Otherwise I haven't the foggiest idea what the difference could be - maybe installing Xorg-Full in other Puppies will fix it.
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rjbrewer


Joined: 22 Jan 2008
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Location: merriam, kansas

PostPosted: Wed 16 Jun 2010, 12:53    Post subject:  

Holy crap!!!
This is the first new kernel Puppy version that lets me
install and run Ttuuxxxs vlc lite 8.6.
Gxine is almost as good.
No overheating problems.

Jemimah; this is just great on my 12" Inspiron 700m, using
vesa at 1024 x 768.

edit;
Full install to hard drive was a piece of cake too.

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jun 2010, 13:56    Post subject:  

Do you have a link for "vlc light"? I am wondering how small it is. Maybe it could fit in the sfs.

Edit: Nevermind, found it. 8MB, a bit too large...
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jun 2010, 14:49    Post subject:  

jemimah wrote:
Do you have a link for "vlc light"? I am wondering how small it is. Maybe it could fit in the sfs.

Edit: Nevermind, found it. 8MB, a bit too large...


Comparing Gxine to this Vlc using Htop, playing mp4 video
almost full screen.

Gixine 60% + cpu
Vlc 40% + cpu

Gxine 80/993 ram
Vlc 64/993 ram

The new gnome-mplayer and mplayer versions are a
complete disaster with my favorite dvds.

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jun 2010, 14:54    Post subject:  

I'd consider replacing Gxine, but both Goggles and Xfmedia need Xine.
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rjbrewer


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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:30    Post subject:  

jemimah wrote:
I'd consider replacing Gxine, but both Goggles and Xfmedia need Xine.


I've never eliminated Gxine on the earlier installs either.
It's just nice to be able to have the Vlc .pet option.

Edit;
Google Chrome don't play nice with Vlc or mms video streams;
dumped it and installed Seamonkey 1.1.18.

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JustGreg

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:37    Post subject:
Subject description: NVIDIA Ion Chipset
 

I have been experimenting with the Fluppy 002 vesa (Xvesa) driver and my Acer Aspire Revo that has Nvidia Ion chipset. I have found that using the standard Xvesa resolution 1280 by 1024 looks fairly good on my 1366 by 768 monitor. The monitor does automatically adapt and display the resolution. The start up takes a while.

I did some research on Xvesa. There is a tool called Xvesa that provides information (needed to run at console prompt without Xserver running) on the available modes. Specifically, there is the command Xvesa -force -listmodes that shows all the video modes in BIOS list. Puppy and Fluppy do not have the Xvesa tool. Does anyone know how to get a list of the video modes from the BIOS? Thanks in advance for any help.

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jemimah


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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jun 2010, 15:46    Post subject:  

I believe the necessary drivers are there in Fluppy 003 to make Xorg work on Nvidia ION.

The XVesa Video Wizard should show you all the detected modes.
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JustGreg

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jun 2010, 19:08    Post subject:  

Yes, xvesa in Fluppy does show the "standard" vesa modes. I kept trying the listed modes until I found the highest resolution that work and looked good.

I was hoping to find all modes including the non-standard ones that might be in BIOS. It might be possible to get 1366 by 768 mode (if present) used by many laptops. I will keep looking! Thank you for the reply

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