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PostPosted: Wed 05 Jan 2011, 12:06    Post subject:  

I created the bootable USB stick with Fluppy010 and copied Grub4DOS to it.

I tweaked the MSI's BIOS to boot from a USB Hardisk, which it did.

I am now looking at Fluppy010 in RAM on the MSI.

Since Grub4DOS runs with the MS and not the Linux OS I am not sure why I want it since I am in Linux.

Normally, from a CD, I would use GParted to reconfigure HDD usage, then run the Puppy Installer.

WDYT?

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Jan 2011, 12:35    Post subject:  

of course, i looked on ibam page
but do not understand what the word adaptive means here:)

in win7 it also showed about six hours with 100% battery but it's written it can hold up to 8

for me it would just enough if wifi could be turned off and brightness adjusted

also for newer versions can i use my save file or upgrade will be critical?

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Jan 2011, 17:58    Post subject:  

two important things I've noticed :
Gparted does not work
(couldn't create swapfile and lost partition -got a message that kernell can not read disk table)
booted from old Boxpupeee and everything worked there

also there are a lot of modules in /lib/modules inlike in other puppies i used before
60mb of modules
so had to make pupsave bigger

is this normal ?

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Jan 2011, 19:11    Post subject:  

jemimah wrote:

You can read about the battery thing here: http://ibam.sourceforge.net/


according to the website
http://ibam.sourceforge.net/README
there should be 3 rc files in the ibam folder-ibam.rc, battery.rc and charge.rc, there is only one in mine- ibam.rc. The other ones are the battery profile which I guess must be created-right?

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jan 2011, 01:35    Post subject:
Subject description: gparted?
 

I am booted from USB on the MSI netbook.

gparted does not see the MS version of windows called "7" and describes the 149GB it sees as "unallocated". It is actually NTFS.

There are two partitiions, the first is 100MB, the second 149GB, both NTFS.

Grub4DOS was recommended to load Fluppy but I don't see how to use it and I seem to need to create a proper partition for Puppy and to put MSW7 in a much smaller doghouse ...

I tried Puppy Universal Installer but it appeared to want to wipe everytihing!

How do I proceed, please?

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jan 2011, 02:15    Post subject:  

You only need a new partition for Fluppy if you have to do Full install.

I use Fluppy on a netbook with three partitions that the manufactor Acer out there all in NTFS and the Sda3 or (hd0,2) is the one I use for many frugal installs.

I made use of Shinobar's describtion on how to use grub4dosconfig to get a dual boot going.

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jan 2011, 02:30    Post subject:
Subject description: gparted?
 

edoc wrote:
I am booted from USB on the MSI netbook.

gparted does not see the MS version of windows called "7" and describes the 149GB it sees as "unallocated". It is actually NTFS.

There are two partitiions, the first is 100MB, the second 149GB, both NTFS.

Grub4DOS was recommended to load Fluppy but I don't see how to use it and I seem to need to create a proper partition for Puppy and to put MSW7 in a much smaller doghouse ...

I tried Puppy Universal Installer but it appeared to want to wipe everytihing!

How do I proceed, please?

Thanks!


Don't know if this applies to your version of Windows 7 but.......

I run Windows 7 Ultimate and it has a built in disc partitioner to shrink the Windows partition.

Control Panel/ System and Security/ Administrative Tools/Create and format hard disk partitions.

You could shrink the Windows partition and leave the rest unallocated........then use Gparted to format for Puppy and install.

Good luck.HTH.
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jan 2011, 14:37    Post subject: Testing Fluppy on Toshiba Satellite L305
Subject description: Fluppy on Toshiba Satellite L305
 

Greetings,
Thanks for a great disto (fluppy 10). I don't have a netbook but it runs better than any puppy I've tried so far. Currently using it on a Toshiba Satellite L305. Thing that got me to testing Fluppy is the fact that it had bluetooth and I like using my bt mouse. At this point I have loaded the OpenOffice.sfs, the Google Chrome Stable.deb off of their site (I had to copy a link to the desktop from /opt/google/chrome, Kompozer, Nero Linux 4, medibuntu, gpfind, firefox (pet). My Motorola Quantico tethers just fine using the PupDial and of course I preload the modprobe usbserial instructions for internet. Still trying to get DVD95Converter to run (library problem). And I haven't tried bluetooth dialup with my phone yet. Will keep you posted. O' yes I'm booting puppy from my Ubuntu Maverick ext4 partition. Puppy is the first linux system I was able to get working until I found Ubuntu over a year ago. Ubuntu let me get weaned from M$. I've been 100% Linux for over a year. My wife is all Linux except for Quicken running in wine. Anyway its nice to have a really great Puppy to work with. If I can get all of my apps going I may just switch full time.
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jan 2011, 14:39    Post subject:
Subject description: Fluppy on Toshiba Satellite L305
 

Greetings,
Thanks for a great disto (fluppy 10). I don't have a netbook but it runs better than any puppy I've tried so far. Currently using it on a Toshiba Satellite L305. Thing that got me to testing Fluppy is the fact that it had bluetooth and I like using my bt mouse. At this point I have loaded the OpenOffice.sfs, the Google Chrome Stable.deb off of their site (I had to copy a link to the desktop from /opt/google/chrome, Kompozer, Nero Linux 4, medibuntu, gpfind, firefox (pet). My Motorola Quantico tethers just fine using the PupDial and of course I preload the modprobe usbserial instructions for internet. Still trying to get DVD95Converter to run (library problem). And I haven't tried bluetooth dialup with my phone yet. Will keep you posted. O' yes I'm booting puppy from my Ubuntu Maverick ext4 partition. Puppy is the first linux system I was able to get working until I found Ubuntu over a year ago. Ubuntu let me get weaned from M$. I've been 100% Linux for over a year. My wife is all Linux except for Quicken running in wine. Anyway its nice to have a really great Puppy to work with. If I can get all of my apps going I may just switch full time.
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jan 2011, 14:40    Post subject:  

Greetings,
Thanks for a great disto (fluppy 10). I don't have a netbook but it runs better than any puppy I've tried so far. Currently using it on a Toshiba Satellite L305. Thing that got me to testing Fluppy is the fact that it had bluetooth and I like using my bt mouse. At this point I have loaded the OpenOffice.sfs, the Google Chrome Stable.deb off of their site (I had to copy a link to the desktop from /opt/google/chrome, Kompozer, Nero Linux 4, medibuntu, gpfind, firefox (pet). My Motorola Quantico tethers just fine using the PupDial and of course I preload the modprobe usbserial instructions for internet. Still trying to get DVD95Converter to run (library problem). And I haven't tried bluetooth dialup with my phone yet. Will keep you posted. O' yes I'm booting puppy from my Ubuntu Maverick ext4 partition. Puppy is the first linux system I was able to get working until I found Ubuntu over a year ago. Ubuntu let me get weaned from M$. I've been 100% Linux for over a year. My wife is all Linux except for Quicken running in wine. Anyway its nice to have a really great Puppy to work with. If I can get all of my apps going I may just switch full time.
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jan 2011, 14:40    Post subject:  

Greetings,
Thanks for a great disto (fluppy 10). I don't have a netbook but it runs better than any puppy I've tried so far. Currently using it on a Toshiba Satellite L305. Thing that got me to testing Fluppy is the fact that it had bluetooth and I like using my bt mouse. At this point I have loaded the OpenOffice.sfs, the Google Chrome Stable.deb off of their site (I had to copy a link to the desktop from /opt/google/chrome, Kompozer, Nero Linux 4, medibuntu, gpfind, firefox (pet). My Motorola Quantico tethers just fine using the PupDial and of course I preload the modprobe usbserial instructions for internet. Still trying to get DVD95Converter to run (library problem). And I haven't tried bluetooth dialup with my phone yet. Will keep you posted. O' yes I'm booting puppy from my Ubuntu Maverick ext4 partition. Puppy is the first linux system I was able to get working until I found Ubuntu over a year ago. Ubuntu let me get weaned from M$. I've been 100% Linux for over a year. My wife is all Linux except for Quicken running in wine. Anyway its nice to have a really great Puppy to work with. If I can get all of my apps going I may just switch full time.
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jan 2011, 14:46    Post subject:  

Greetings,
don't know what is going on here but I was getting an error message when I clicked on "submit". hence the multiple posts. I'll let the moderator fix it since I don't have a delete option.
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jan 2011, 15:35    Post subject:
Subject description: gparted?
 

James C wrote:

Don't know if this applies to your version of Windows 7 but.......
I run Windows 7 Ultimate and it has a built in disc partitioner to shrink the Windows partition.
.


This is the second occasion that I have received a suggestion to use a MS app to solve a problem in Linux - and it irks me.

Gparted (or perhaps it was a different Linux partition app) has *always* worked fine in Puppy - when was it broken and why?

I have always been able to view and manipulate MS partitions, create an ext3 partition, and load Puppy.

NTFS is slower and less reliable than ext3 so I have no desire to stuff a Frugal install in with MS junk and have them co-exist.

All of the computers here are Linux - it is rare to ever use MS for anything - and never online.

I'd like to minimize MS7 as much as possible, stripping out wasted space, then have it available in GRUB.

This never used to be hard in Puppy and never involved any app from MS ...

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jan 2011, 16:45    Post subject:  

I just read this:

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/UsingPuppy/show?time=2011-01-06+01:52:10
Quote:
One can place a frugal install within a pre-existing Win98 installation; the save file (although it itself contains an ext2 file system) may reside on a FAT32 or NTFS partition. Which is why a frugal install is also called a "co-exist" install. Not so with a full hard disk drive install: one cannot make a full installation on a FAT partition because it does not support Linux symbolic links.


Is what "can" be done in Frugal what is *best* to do in Frugal?

I really like the strategy of sinple and separate - NTFS for MS and ext3 for Linux. And, therefore, different logical disks as well.

Really easy to see what is doing what.

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jan 2011, 16:57    Post subject:  

Is cfdisk unable to handle a ntfs partition?

gparted is not behaving and pdisk is apparently not in Fluppy, and I don't recall if it could handle ntfs either (I think it's just a shell for cfdisk and fdisk)..

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