Fluppy 013

For talk and support relating specifically to Puppy derivatives
Message
Author
User avatar
maxpro4u
Posts: 293
Joined: Sat 19 Jun 2010, 18:20
Location: Rittman,Ohio,USA, In dog years,I'm dead
Contact:

#1306 Post by maxpro4u »

technosaurus wrote:http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59461

Now where can I get dead beef for my pet?
Thanks! :lol:
Dell D610 1.7M w/1024mb
Testing Slacko and a few others
I'm Max Wachtel and I approve this message.
Registered Linux User #393236

nooby
Posts: 10369
Joined: Sun 29 Jun 2008, 19:05
Location: SwedenEurope

#1307 Post by nooby »

Wow Jemimah. you are my true hero.

I have a D255 too so if that allow use of USB3 that would be cool. Mine is very Fan noisy so I use D250 instead but have dl you latest bild and will try it out on both of them.

I give any bug report here if mouse wheel or anything is lacking.

Congrat to Fluppy-011. I've only tested it on the D250 still
Frugal install and it worked as expected.
Last edited by nooby on Tue 11 Jan 2011, 07:32, edited 1 time in total.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

jamesbond
Posts: 3433
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007, 05:02
Location: The Blue Marble

#1308 Post by jamesbond »

Thanks Jemimah.

I like the new notification GUI :)

Anyway, on to this EM350 netbook (it's an eMachines, which is low-end Acer). First boot failed - same problem as before, brcm80211 froze the machine (no problem, just activate wl and blacklist brcm).

Frisbee now works straightaway, no more hand-editing the wpa_supplicant.conf :D

Configuring sven worked the first time, but the second time I tried to launch it, it said multimedia keys were already claimed by other app (which turned out to be another instance of sven, apparently). Killing all existing instance of sven and starting it again fix the problem (until the next time I need to configure sven again).

keucr is not loaded automatically, but this is easily fixed by adding "modprobe keucr" to rc.local.

Haven't test anything else yet. Will let you know if I encounter any other issues.

Love your work. It's very polished :D
Fatdog64 forum links: [url=http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=117546]Latest version[/url] | [url=https://cutt.ly/ke8sn5H]Contributed packages[/url] | [url=https://cutt.ly/se8scrb]ISO builder[/url]

nooby
Posts: 10369
Joined: Sun 29 Jun 2008, 19:05
Location: SwedenEurope

#1309 Post by nooby »

Hi James,

Interesting things you write
Anyway, on to this EM350 netbook (it's an eMachines, which is low-end Acer). First boot failed - same problem as before, brcm80211 froze the machine (no problem, just activate wl and blacklist brcm).
Would that allow me to boot Lupu520 on my Acer D250 and D255?

I fai lto get what " just activate wl and blacklist brcm" stand for.

White list and blacklist brcm ahh you mean broadcom ethernet or something.

So if I do that on all my puppies that fail to boot then they will boot?

Sorry maybe should ahve sent you a PM.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

jamesbond
Posts: 3433
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007, 05:02
Location: The Blue Marble

#1310 Post by jamesbond »

Hi Nooby,
nooby wrote: Would that allow me to boot Lupu520 on my Acer D250 and D255?
Acer model numbers are very confusing - because those model has submodels, e.g. D255 can have either N450 or N550 CPU, depending on the submodels, and I'm quite sure the guts can be different also (wireless can use Atheros, Broadcomm, or Realtek etc). I know that EM350 is quite similar to one of the Acer AOA models, but can't remember exactly. Anyway, the point is there is no point comparing the model numbers - if we want to compare, we need to compare the guts rather than the model numbers.

Anyway, whether that allows you to boot Lupu520 or not, depends on what makes them fail to boot in the first place. There is no other way but trial and error ... I've downloaded Lupu520 but haven't played with it yet, so I can't say. What I can say is, in my case, Fluppy 010 and 011 failed to boot because of the brcm80211 wireless driver (the onboard wireless card on EM350 is broadcomm) froze the system during boot time. There are two drivers for this card - the open source (preferred) brcm80211 driver, and the closed-source (and older) wl driver. As shipped, Jemimah blacklisted wl driver and let brcm80211 takes over. I just swapped this configuration - I blacklisted brcm80211 and remove wl from the blacklist.
I fai lto get what " just activate wl and blacklist brcm" stand for.
This normally can be done through GUI (through the control panel), but of course you need to be able to boot first if you want to use the control panel --- so for me, I edited the SFS to change this. To "edit the SFS", I actually unpack the flp-011.sfs (using unsquashfs), edit the /etc/rc.d/MODULESCONFIG using geany (change the line that contains SKIPLIST), and the pack it back (using mksquashfs). I think there's a GUI somewhere to do this automatically - but again, you need to be able to boot first before you can use the GUI. You can do this for any recent puppies - including Lupu520.
White list and blacklist brcm ahh you mean broadcom ethernet or something.
Yes I'm referring to blacklisting and whitelisting the wireless driver for broadcomm.
So if I do that on all my puppies that fail to boot then they will boot?
As I said - we need to know what causes the failure to boot first ...
Sorry maybe should ahve sent you a PM.
It's ok. The comment may be useful for others also, and they may be able to help you more than mine.
Fatdog64 forum links: [url=http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=117546]Latest version[/url] | [url=https://cutt.ly/ke8sn5H]Contributed packages[/url] | [url=https://cutt.ly/se8scrb]ISO builder[/url]

nooby
Posts: 10369
Joined: Sun 29 Jun 2008, 19:05
Location: SwedenEurope

#1311 Post by nooby »

Yes that was very helpful indeed.

But we are unfair to Jemimah flooding her thread with details about Lupu.

Anyway I had tested some 25 or so linux distros on my Acer Netbook and Puppeee was the only one being able to lit up the led on the wifi.

She has an eye for such details so very good distro she has made.

I was lucky with Fluppy 11 it works good on my Acer.

Unpacking an sfs. Wow that is advanced. But I have done something less demanding. I did open a pupsavefile and tool out a bookmarks file and a background picture so I could reuse it in another puppy so I get that is is possible to edit a file in an sfs.

I guess one should be using pfix=ram so it is not constantly written to while one have it unpacked?
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

User avatar
jemimah
Posts: 4307
Joined: Wed 26 Aug 2009, 19:56
Location: Tampa, FL
Contact:

#1312 Post by jemimah »

edoc wrote:Posting from Fluppy 011 on my netbook Samsung NB30.

Loaded easily as Frugal and is FAST!

Thanks Jemimah :D :D

NEWBIES to FLUPPY

If you want to link Claws (E-mail) to Midori (Web) so that clicking on an E-mail address in Midori opens a new E-mail in Compose mode in Claws
do this:
Go to: /root/Choices/URI

Right-click on "mailto" then select Copy and name the copy "imailto" then click Copy.

Reboot.
This is from Jemimah ... I'm not that clever with code!
That bug it fixed, you shouldn't need to do that with fluppy11. ...Just an extra "i" in my xdg-open script that I didn't realize was there: :/

magerlab
Posts: 739
Joined: Sun 08 Jul 2007, 20:08

#1313 Post by magerlab »

i really don't understand what happened to touchpad

flsynclient does work but nothing happens

i can scroll only using scroll bar on the page

i see that xorg.conf now added a line

load synaptic .

User avatar
jemimah
Posts: 4307
Joined: Wed 26 Aug 2009, 19:56
Location: Tampa, FL
Contact:

#1314 Post by jemimah »

maxpro4u wrote:
technosaurus wrote:http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59461

Now where can I get dead beef for my pet?
Thanks! :lol:
The stable version of deadbeef crashed with the newer gtk when I tested. Here is the svn version I used in Fluppy10.

http://puppeee.com/files/pet/deadbeef.pet

User avatar
jemimah
Posts: 4307
Joined: Wed 26 Aug 2009, 19:56
Location: Tampa, FL
Contact:

#1315 Post by jemimah »

jamesbond wrote:Thanks Jemimah.

I like the new notification GUI :)

Anyway, on to this EM350 netbook (it's an eMachines, which is low-end Acer). First boot failed - same problem as before, brcm80211 froze the machine (no problem, just activate wl and blacklist brcm).

Frisbee now works straightaway, no more hand-editing the wpa_supplicant.conf :D

Configuring sven worked the first time, but the second time I tried to launch it, it said multimedia keys were already claimed by other app (which turned out to be another instance of sven, apparently). Killing all existing instance of sven and starting it again fix the problem (until the next time I need to configure sven again).

keucr is not loaded automatically, but this is easily fixed by adding "modprobe keucr" to rc.local.

Haven't test anything else yet. Will let you know if I encounter any other issues.

Love your work. It's very polished :D
Grrr, I was really hoping the new brcm would have fixed that, but great news about frisbee,

Sven is supposed to detect if it's already running an kill the old instance. I guess it will need extra babysitting. :(

User avatar
jemimah
Posts: 4307
Joined: Wed 26 Aug 2009, 19:56
Location: Tampa, FL
Contact:

#1316 Post by jemimah »

magerlab wrote:i really don't understand what happened to touchpad

flsynclient does work but nothing happens

i can scroll only using scroll bar on the page

i see that xorg.conf now added a line

load synaptic .
Can I get a copy of your xorg.conf?

magerlab
Posts: 739
Joined: Sun 08 Jul 2007, 20:08

#1317 Post by magerlab »

here's my xorg.conf from fluppy 11


Code: Select all


#Special base config file used in Puppy Linux.

# **********************************************************************
# Module section -- this  section  is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **********************************************************************
#
Section "Module"
	Load "synaptics"

# This loads the DBE extension module.

    Load        "dbe"  	# Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
    SubSection  "extmod"
      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
    EndSubSection

# This loads the font modules
    Load        "type1"
    Load        "freetype"

# This loads xtrap extension, used by xrandr
    Load       "xtrap"

# This loads the GLX module (if present)
    Load       "glx"

# This loads dri module (if present)
    Load       "dri"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db").  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

    RgbPath	"/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)

    FontPath   "/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><Fn> VT switch sequence
# (where n is 1 through 12).  This allows clients to receive these key
# events.

#    Option "DontVTSwitch"

# Enables mode switching with xrandr
# There is a report that this can cause Xorg not to work on some
# video hardware, so default is commented-out...
# but i want to use it in xorgwizard so leave on...

    Option "RandR" "on"

EndSection

#everything past here is auto-generated by Puppy's Xorg Wizard...


Section "ServerLayout"
	InputDevice "Synaptics Mouse" "AlwaysCore"
	Identifier     "X.org Configured"
	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
	InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
	Driver      "kbd"
	Option      "XkbRules" "xorg"
	Option      "XkbModel" "pc102"
	Option      "XkbLayout" "us" #xkeymap0
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Mouse0"
	Driver      "mouse"
	Option	    "Protocol" "IMPS/2" #mouse0protocol
	Option	    "Device" "/dev/mouse"
	#Option      "Emulate3Buttons"
	#Option      "Emulate3Timeout" "50"
	Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" #scrollwheel
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier "Synaptics Mouse"
	Driver "synaptics"
	Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
	Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
        Option "LeftEdge" "60"
        Option "RightEdge" "1070"
        Option "TopEdge" "90"
        Option "BottomEdge" "680"
        Option "Emulate3Buttons" "on"
        Option "MaxTapTime" "180"
        Option "MaxTapMove" "59"
        Option "VertScrollDelta" "20"
	Option "EmulateTwoFingerMinW" "5"
	Option "EmulateTwoFingerMinZ" "48"
	Option "VertTwoFingerScroll" "1"
	Option "HorizTwoFingerScroll" "1"
        Option "MinSpeed" "0.75"
        Option "MaxSpeed" "1.00"
        Option "AccelFactor" "0.16"
        Option "SHMConfig" "on"
        Option "VertEdgeScroll" "on"
        Option "TapButton1" "1"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
	VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
	ModelName    "Monitor Model"
	HorizSync    30-48
	VertRefresh  56-71
	#UseModes     "Modes0" #monitor0usemodes
	Option      "PreferredMode" "1024x600"
	EndSection
	
Section "Modes"
	Identifier "Modes0"
	#modes0modeline0
EndSection

Section "Device"
	### Available Driver options are:-
	### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
	### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
	### [arg]: arg optional
	#Option     "NoAccel"            	# [<bool>]
	#Option     "SWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
	#Option     "ColorKey"           	# <i>
	#Option     "CacheLines"         	# <i>
	#Option     "Dac6Bit"            	# [<bool>]
	#Option     "DRI"                	# [<bool>]
	#Option     "NoDDC"              	# [<bool>]
	#Option     "ShowCache"          	# [<bool>]
	#Option     "XvMCSurfaces"       	# <i>
	#Option     "PageFlip"           	# [<bool>]
	Identifier  "Card0"
	Driver      "intel" #card0driver
	VendorName  "Unknown Vendor"
	BoardName   "Unknown Board"
	BusID       "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen0"
	Device     "Card0"
	Monitor    "Monitor0"
	DefaultDepth 24
	#Option         "metamodes" "1024x600_60 +0+0" #METAMODES_0
	Subsection "Display"
		Depth       24
		Modes       "1024x600"
	EndSubsection
EndSection

#PuppyHardwareProfile=Intel_r_PineView_Graphics_ChipSAMSUNG


User avatar
jemimah
Posts: 4307
Joined: Wed 26 Aug 2009, 19:56
Location: Tampa, FL
Contact:

#1318 Post by jemimah »

Looks like an Elantech touchpad. I guess your model was just added to the kernel. You may find that vertical scroll doesn't work but two-fingered scrolling does.

You can disable the Elantech driver and get the original behavior by booting with psmouse.no_elantech=1.

Edit: also try flSynclient's Calibration buttons - that will most likely fix it.
Last edited by jemimah on Tue 11 Jan 2011, 15:51, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
maxpro4u
Posts: 293
Joined: Sat 19 Jun 2010, 18:20
Location: Rittman,Ohio,USA, In dog years,I'm dead
Contact:

#1319 Post by maxpro4u »

jemimah wrote:
maxpro4u wrote:
technosaurus wrote:http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59461

Now where can I get dead beef for my pet?
Thanks! :lol:
The stable version of deadbeef crashed with the newer gtk when I tested. Here is the svn version I used in Fluppy10.

http://puppeee.com/files/pet/deadbeef.pet
The version I installed that technosaurus posted is working fine here. Full install of fluppy11. While I got you on the phone, is there a way to update Java or should one delete the old pet when a new one is ready?
Dell D610 1.7M w/1024mb
Testing Slacko and a few others
I'm Max Wachtel and I approve this message.
Registered Linux User #393236

User avatar
jemimah
Posts: 4307
Joined: Wed 26 Aug 2009, 19:56
Location: Tampa, FL
Contact:

#1320 Post by jemimah »

There's a java sfs in the petstore. Is it out of date already?

magerlab
Posts: 739
Joined: Sun 08 Jul 2007, 20:08

#1321 Post by magerlab »

yes it seems that two fingers scrolling can be done
but i like just normal :)

i disabled elantech module

now it's fine!
thank you !
( strange, but i read in some places that it's synaptic and in other places that it's elantech:)
so now the only thing i need is to add some osd to backlight and rfkirll.
i'll try myself to make it


i did lsmod also and see that there are very few modules loaded
if i make a zdrv file will it help anyhow ?( faster boot and anything else)

remembering my eee pc 701 experience( i still use eee, but i need new keyboard since my son took out some letters ) i'd like to set powermanagement as good as possible:)
for example add scripts to disable usb and turn it on only when needed since i use usb not very often

User avatar
maxpro4u
Posts: 293
Joined: Sat 19 Jun 2010, 18:20
Location: Rittman,Ohio,USA, In dog years,I'm dead
Contact:

#1322 Post by maxpro4u »

jemimah wrote:There's a java sfs in the petstore. Is it out of date already?
I think the current version is 1.6.23
Dell D610 1.7M w/1024mb
Testing Slacko and a few others
I'm Max Wachtel and I approve this message.
Registered Linux User #393236

User avatar
jemimah
Posts: 4307
Joined: Wed 26 Aug 2009, 19:56
Location: Tampa, FL
Contact:

#1323 Post by jemimah »

Could some people with nvidia cards please test this nouveau driver? You need to unblacklist the nouveau kernel module for it to work.
Attachments
nouveau-1.pet
(65.31 KiB) Downloaded 275 times

User avatar
jemimah
Posts: 4307
Joined: Wed 26 Aug 2009, 19:56
Location: Tampa, FL
Contact:

#1324 Post by jemimah »

magerlab wrote:yes it seems that two fingers scrolling can be done
but i like just normal :)

i disabled elantech module

now it's fine!
thank you !
( strange, but i read in some places that it's synaptic and in other places that it's elantech:)
so now the only thing i need is to add some osd to backlight and rfkirll.
i'll try myself to make it


i did lsmod also and see that there are very few modules loaded
if i make a zdrv file will it help anyhow ?( faster boot and anything else)

remembering my eee pc 701 experience( i still use eee, but i need new keyboard since my son took out some letters ) i'd like to set powermanagement as good as possible:)
for example add scripts to disable usb and turn it on only when needed since i use usb not very often
Yeah I played around with the Elantech driver on my 701 that has that problem, but Calibrating with flSynclient fixed it.

Making a zdrive won't boot faster AFAIK. But it will allow you to use the zdrive cutter to remove extra drivers. However the cutter cuts everything that's not in use - so that's usually not what you want.

I believe this kernel is pretty good at suspending usb automatically. I've turned all the usb powermanagement stuff on.

You can look at puppeee to see some of the extra stuff I put in the powersaving scripts there, but honestly turning down the backlight saves by far the most power. I don't know if the samsungs have FSB underclocking but that also helps a lot.

Actually unloading the kernel modules for the wireless also helps a lot more than just rfkill. Rfkill alone doesn't seem to cut power to the wireless card - at least not on the Eee.

magerlab
Posts: 739
Joined: Sun 08 Jul 2007, 20:08

#1325 Post by magerlab »

i wish i have more bash scripting skills...:)
so i have to add rmmode and modporbe commands somewhere to rfkill script

Post Reply