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#1906 Post by tlchost »

edoc wrote: Aitch posted the following link which is the beginning of a centralized pool of all Puppy apps -- if folks choose to cooperate:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewt ... 983#542983
The online database was one that I had created and offered for use by the PLUG group.

My experience with the database was that not many people were willing to assist by making/maintaining entries.

I would put it back online if folks asked for it and agreed to help.

Thom

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#1907 Post by Aitch »

Seems there was a reason for Bruce derailing PLUG after all - [not necessarily benevolent] dictators rule :wink: :lol:

http://www.smokey01.com/bruceb/puppy.html

Does that make your database redundant, Thom?

Aitch :)

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#1908 Post by tlchost »

Aitch wrote:Seems there was a reason for Bruce derailing PLUG after all - [not necessarily benevolent] dictators rule :wink: :lol:
Oh I don't think one can give Bruce all the credit for derailing PLUG. If one has ever read The Evil Prince one may be able to find others who very skillfully helped kill PLUG.

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http://www.smokey01.com/bruceb/puppy.html
Does that make your database redundant, Thom?
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You can answer that question your self....see how long it takes to find jnformation about Fluppy 013 and those pets and sfs files that are known to work with Fluppy.

Bruce did a great job with his page...but like so many static tools it has its limitations.

I suspect that people would simply not take the time to participate in entering and updating information in a database.

Thom

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Fun with My New Fluppy

#1909 Post by heywoodj »

After trying out various puppies (4.2.1 -> LuPu 5.2.5) on my "new" laptop (hp/Compaq nx6125 -- 1.6 GHz AMD, 1.4 GB RAM, 40 GB HDD w/ 1.5 GB swap), I am now enjoying Fluppy 013.

It looks good, works well, boots quickly and has a good feel. But it's not perfect with all hardware -- yet.

There are some quirks I'm still ironing out.I admit that some of the problems may be of my own making.

I was not getting the sound to work, and when running alsaconf from terminal I was getting a "No supported PnP or PCI card found...), similar to bignono1: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 379#519127
The difference is that he has a ES1968 soundcard while mine is an ATI IXP.

I resolved the sound issue by reinstalling Fluppy, this time using a CD. I normally test puppies by downloading and mounting the .iso, and copying the contents to a directory. I have a selection in my menu.lst that points to this directory. This way, I can try out a Puppy without burning a CD.

But there's something different about Fluppy, unlike the other Puppies and Puplets, that won't allow my soundcard to be detected when "installed" without a CD.

Fluppy also did not recognize my SDHC card from the built-in card reader, at least after restarting X to set up my Synaptics touchpad. That was resolved by this: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=36779. Basically inserting:

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modprobe tifm_7xx1 
modprobe tifm_core 
modprobe tifm_sd
into the end of /etc/rc.d/rc.local will allow my cardreader to be ready at startup.

The things I have yet to resolve:
1. The behaviour of the lid switch that I outlined here:http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70622. The screen shuts off when the lid is closed but won't return when opened, forcing me to a power button shutdown.
To be fair, most newer version exhibited the same behavior. While 4.2.1 and 4.3.1 returned without a hitch, LuPu 5.0,5.2.0,and 5.2.5 all gave me the black screen.
The only newer dog that behaves well is SnowPuppy 020, which automatically goes into "Suspend to RAM" when the lid is closed, and returns quickly by pressing the power button. That is the behavior I'm looking for. What should I copy from Snow Puppy?

2.I like "Suspend to RAM" so much that I made a "sleep" switch icon on my desktop. However, whenever I go to sleep, I need to re-enable the wireless network when I wake. It's all there but it still needs a nudge in Frisbee to get connected.

3. Even in these modern times, I still occasionally need to use the dial-up modem. After messing with ScanModem and using slmodemd, PupDial recognizes the modem but I get no dialtone, unlike the same setup(telephone cable) which works in Windows XP :( . I think I may have to work with the various checkbox options in PupDial.

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#1910 Post by edoc »

Fluppy 013 is no longer actively supported by Jemimah as her job situation has changed. It remains, however, one of the better Puplets (esp. for netbooks and laptops).

You may want to have a look at the work being done on Dpup Exprimo 5.X.5:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 679#560679
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#1911 Post by heywoodj »

Thanks, I have now found out about Jemimahs long absence, and would hope that all is well, if hectic, with her.

In the mean time, with Pemasu's help, I have resolved my #1 and #2 problems in one shot!
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... &start=660
Now to resolve #3, the dial-up modem!

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Remaster missing BOOT dir

#1912 Post by arfon »

See earlier posts by tlchost regarding remaster in Fluppy13...

Loved the Fluppy13 so went to remaster ...

After Remaster (Douglas') creating *iso then BurnISO2CD. However CD won't boot. It says missing

/boot/vesamenu.c32

In fact the *.iso does not contain a boot directory at all.

Is this a known issue? Is there a way I can recover my iso (took ages to fine tune) and add a boot directory (tried Burn to ISO in Win CDBurner XP then adding the BOOT directory in a subsequent session but suspect some clash in case caused it to fail).

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#1913 Post by tlchost »

arfon wrote: In fact the *.iso does not contain a boot directory at all.
Correct.....I am not home...but as I recall this is what I did:

Place all the files the remaster created in a new directory...
then copy the boot directory from the original Fluppy into the new directory.

I then zipped up the new directory into a zip file.

As I recall, if you unzip that onto a USB drive, you'll be good to go.

Hope my senior memory is intact.

Thom

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#1914 Post by arfon »

Hi Thom

Thanks I did something similar using ISOMaster. Got the boot dir in place.

However the Remaster had allowed me to customize the flp-013.sfs to another name. So then during startup it couldn't find flp-013.sfs 'cos mine was called something else.

Renamed it back built my 4th ISO and re-wrote my CD. All worked in the end. But don't want to do it that way frequently !

I'll see if I can find the old Remaster on a pet somewhere...

Arfon

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#1915 Post by tlchost »

arfon wrote: However the Remaster had allowed me to customize the flp-013.sfs to another name. So then during startup it couldn't find flp-013.sfs 'cos mine was called something else.
I made that mistake once....
I'll see if I can find the old Remaster on a pet somewhere...
Arfon
The one in Fluppy works fine....not sure why you want to use a different one.

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#1916 Post by jamesbond »

Does anyone notice that puppeee.com site (where fluppy is hosted) seems to be down?
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#1917 Post by roadkill13 »

Does anyone notice that puppeee.com site (where fluppy is hosted) seems to be down?
Thanks for pointing that out. I had just visited the site a few days ago because I put fluppy on a laptop and wanted to add some of the software that was available at puppeee.com/files. I must have gotten that done just in time.

Too bad I did not keep copies.

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#1918 Post by edoc »

I have some of that stuff ... if Jemimah has abandoned the site.

Perhaps someone on Puppy already has mirrored it or plans a download site?

Otherwise I may be able to host it for a while.

I am slowly moving away to Squeeze 5X7, and have been monitoring the Next project as well, but have found Fluppy 013 to be an amazingly powerful and stable Puplet.
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Acer Netbook Wireless

#1919 Post by tlchost »

Fluppy 13 does not seem to recognize the wireless chip in the Acer D255E netbook.

Fluppy tells me its and unknown broadcom device....windows 7 says it is Broadcom 802.11n

Any suggestions?

Thanks

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broadcom chip

#1920 Post by don570 »

Try this pet for broadcom wireless.


http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 66&t=71777

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Re: broadcom chip

#1921 Post by jim3630 »

don570 wrote:Try this pet for broadcom wireless.


http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 66&t=71777

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that link is only the firmware and it was compiled in 2.6.39.4

fluppy needs drivers compiled in it's kernel which is 2.6.35.7

try this link

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=66857

if tempestuous doesn't have it in that thread I would ask him if could help you.

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Puppeee site down

#1922 Post by roadkill13 »

Here is a link to some of Jemimah's puppeee and fluppy files.

http://smokey01.com/jemimah/

Might want to get them while they are hot.

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#1923 Post by tlchost »

roadkill13 wrote:Here is a link to some of Jemimah's puppeee and fluppy files.

http://smokey01.com/jemimah/

Might want to get them while they are hot.
Too late....they went off line just a bit ago

Edit....back on line again

Thom
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#1924 Post by tempestuous »

don570 wrote:Try this pet for broadcom wireless.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 66&t=71777
No no no! That's just the firmware needed by the latest brcm80211 (brcmsmac/brcmfmac) Broadcom wifi drivers ...
but Fluppy-013 does not have a new-enough kernel to contain these new drivers, it still has the old b43 Broadcom driver.
For recent Broadcom wifi devices, Fluppy-013 probably needs the proprietary "wl" Broadcom wifi driver, but I'm not prepared to search through the 129 pages of this forum thread to discover if anyone has compiled this driver for Fluppy.

Bottom line: probably best to use Three-Headed-Dog or Dpup Exprimo.
jim3630 wrote:that link is only the firmware and it was compiled in 2.6.39.4
No no no! Firmware is a binary "blob" which is not compiled at all. Thus, it's kernel version-independent.
What's more relevant is that the new Broadcom wifi drivers (which require this firmware) are found only in more recent kernels.

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#1925 Post by jim3630 »

tempestuous wrote:Fluppy-013 probably needs the proprietary "wl" Broadcom wifi driver, .
had fluppy installed at one time so it either has wl.ko driver installed in the iso or there is a pet and probably on first few pages since I cannot find it in my broadcom folder.

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ah! here it is on the first page

The current kernel version is 2.6.35.7. ....3rd party drivers included are ndiswrapper, keucr, wl, rtl8192se, rt3070sta, acerhdf, tkusb, and backported brcm80211. .........

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