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Lobster
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan 2006, 11:06    Post subject:  Intro to Puppy booklet  



Update
Feb 2006 - no pics - rtf format - 81k

http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=man8.rtf


Cool

I have been working on this 7 page Intro to Puppy

It gets people introduced to Puppy and downloading and setting up to boot from CD

I enclose it in three format:
Abiword (362k), Word Doc(467k) and HTML(328k)

It is the first time I have used Abiword in 1.0.7 and I was very impressed. Abiword was fast and stable - very good indeed. My tendency has always been to use OpenOffice - but Abiword proved fine.

I tried to output to PDF this came to 1179k and some of the images were lost. Not good.

The HTML output had the ability to embed the images. I liked the sound of that, so saved in this format - the formating is weird in this output and if you look at the source you can see the embeded image info. So I would recommend Abiword or Word Doc as truer to the original doc

I hope it is found to be useful Smile

http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=man1.abw

http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=2536man1.doc

http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=man1.html

. . . Oh and if you are wondering where the "I" in Introducing went - it was me pressing delete at the wrong time in mtpaint (see the above image)

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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan 2006, 11:25    Post subject:  

Very cool. I was just thinking of doing something similar for Grafpup, as someone just sent me a very nice pdf document about Grafpup in French which made me think about the fact that I have nothing similar to it in English. That's a neat trick with the embedded html images, although it looks more professional in the other formats. I'll see if I can figure a way to do a pdf conversion.

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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan 2006, 11:57    Post subject:  

How's this?
http://grafpup.com/download/docs/2536man1.pdf
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan 2006, 13:49    Post subject: slight edits  

That's great Nathan - did you import and export from Open Office?

I have placed the HTML online but in the slight edits or upload seem to have lost the embedded images - oh [sulk] - where'd they go?
Embedded code still seems to be there . . .

http://www.zen45800.zen.co.uk/puppy3/man1.html

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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan 2006, 14:04    Post subject:  

Mozilla and konqueror display the embedded images after I downloaded the file from yourfilehost.
Just dillo (patched) can't.
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan 2006, 19:06    Post subject:  

Scribus allows PDF export.
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan 2006, 22:49    Post subject:  

I was going to just exprot to postscript and then from that to pdf, but I had the same problems with images disappearing. I'm sure I could have gotten it resolved but I just went with OpenOffice and had no problems from that point.

Lobster is right about how far Abiword has come, though. I had a lot of problems with it in earlier incarnations but it seems rock solid now.
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan 2006, 23:12    Post subject: Great work  

Great work, Lobster - just remember to keep the images and HTML file in the same directory when you use HTML, and upload all to your server.
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2006, 05:08    Post subject:  

Thanks guys
I have added another section to the online version

http://www.zen45800.zen.co.uk/puppy5/man10page.html

"What is Linux" - it deals with command line needs
I also added the images (as non embedded) so they should be visible even from Internet Xploder

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2006, 08:23    Post subject:  

Lobster, another option for creating pdf copies of your html is htmldoc, which eric veenstra has provided a puplet of here:-

http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=4436&highlight=htmldoc

using on commandline with :

htmldoc --webpage -f man10page.pdf man10page.html

gives a 318k sized pdf, which i think is compareable withyour original html source of 56k + 213k of .png files.

i remember with the windows gui version you could select maximum compression for pdfs, but i'm not sure whether that's available with commandline.
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2006, 08:51    Post subject:  

Thanks muggins Smile

I will be adding to it bit by bit - Once I have 20 pages or so, I will have a go with Scribus DTP too

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2006, 09:16    Post subject:  

Lobster,

I just thought i'd mention htmldoc as it offers a degree of pdf compression. using scribus to output your man10page.html as pdf, what size do you get?

actually i just had another look on the web & got this link for htmldoc:-

http://www.htmldoc.org/htmldoc.html

Chapter 8 details all the commandline options, including compression, so using this:-



htmldoc --webpage --compression=9 -f man10page.pdf man10page.html

i get a pdf of 303k. while this is only a marginal reduction in size, if you're going to produce larger docs, it could be worth considering as an option.

cheers,

ps whatever you do keep out of that pot!
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jan 2006, 10:42    Post subject:  

I have just added another 2 pages - will upload a new version soon

- Have not tried Scribus output yet but your compression is certainly good - it is possible I can create or use smaller or even no images BUT I feel the images are very comforting and encouraging

I will have a go with Scribus - I think Nathan has a package at the Grafpup.com. I did use Scribus quickly (it was included in one version of Puppy - version 1 I think) and found it very usable.

Many thanks for your advice. Wink

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jan 2006, 09:41    Post subject:  

OK I have added more pages
and tried some more experiments
I tried the compressed abiword formats (they seemed to compress knocking about a third off the size but did not display)

I was also able to get more info on each page by using two columns and this format should be available on Windows, Linux and Mac

So this is my latest version with info on Linux and simple command line usage:

Rich Text Format
http://www.zen45800.zen.co.uk/puppy5/man6.rtf
(467k)

I did download Scribus and looked at it again briefly but to be honest Abiword is working out as sufficient so far . . .

As soon as more info for Puppy 2 is available I will concentrate on making the introductory manual for that Cool

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jan 2006, 15:50    Post subject: Good intro  

This is a rather good intro, Lobster.
I know you intend adding to this...but just wondered if you'd have the time to add an explaination for beginners re. the boot options at start up and the differences eg load entirely in memory vs having a pup file on HD, etc.

Its a common query I get from people I introduce puppy to....and I think it would completely round off your introduction to getting puppy up and working.

what do ya recken ?

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