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[Iguleder]

Kinda Lucid Puppy 006

What is it?

Kinda Lucid Puppy is a 4.3.1-based puplet for general usage. It is built to be better-looking, modern and suitable for multimedia than 4.3.1: one puplet to rule them all.

The difference between KLP and the original 4.3.1 is noticeable in 4 areas:
- Newer, updated stuff: Abiword, Gnumeric, Pmusic, Pburn, xine-lib and more. In two cases, 4.3.1 applications are replaced: Seamonkey with Opera and Pprocess with LXTask. The newer versions fix many of the severe bugs in 4.3.1, such as the ROX focus bug and the huge file chooser bug. Also, some unneeded applications are removed - for instance, Pcdripper is removed because Asunder is better and already included.
- Multimedia - KLP supports many new audio/video formats that 4.3.1 doesn't, including XviD, MPEG-4 and FLV, thanks to the upgraded multimedia packages.
- Woof - since the release of 4.3.1 Barry added many changes and improvements to Woof: a man replacement, a replacement for the old yaf-splash, clean unmount of save files and much more. KLP has them. Also, KLP has some stuff backported from later puppies, like the Lucid Puppy first-run wizard.
- Artwork - KLP looks great

To sum up, Kinda Lucid Puppy is a "generic" puplet that offers all traditional Puppy stuff and sticks with Puppy tradition of small size and home-made applications, while providing a better usage experience.

Who is it for?

The target audience of this puplet is all Puppy users, especially people that need multimedia capabilities in their puplet, Opera fans, Puppy 4.x fans and people with hardware that doesn't get along with Lucid Puppy.

Changelog

006::
- New menu button (a computer icon) and tray buttons: desktop, browser, partview and rxvt.
- Added: the font appearance wizard I wrote for Lupu, a new printer manager (a modified version of ttuxxx's printer manager), LXRandR (the pet I made for Lupu), an improved tray icon for Pmusic.
- Recompiled and/or updated: libogg, libvorbis, libao, faac, faad2, ffmpeg, jwm (recompiled on KLP), libsamplerate, libsndfile, libtheora, x264, xine-lib, xvidcore, xz.
- Updated: Geany to 0.19, Pmusic to 1.0.3, Woof skeleton, Moo, Asunder to 2.0, Tar to 1.23.
- Removed: Pdict (useless), EmbeddedBookmarks (what the heck is that?), calcoo, pdvdrsab, pCD, pmetatagger, first run wizard, pstreamvid (pupRadio is better), you2pup (doesn't work), zmixer (very basic and useless, retrovol rocks), yasm and libvpx (no longer needed with the new ffmpeg), Pidgin (2.6.6 is getting old and it's huge).
- The chat icon now opens the freenode webchat through Opera.
- Opera runs without the mail/news/chat components loaded by default to make it lighter; the mail icon opens Opera with them, straight to the inbox.
- A new GTK theme, NeutrinoPuppy.
- Way smaller than 005, mainly because Pidgin is out.

005:
- Updated: GTK from 2.14.7 to 2.16.16 (the 4.3.1 file chooser bug is fixed!), glib from 2.18.3 to 2.20.5, pwireless 0.8.4 to pwireless2, Tar from 1.19 to spup's patched 1.22, Moo from 009 to 010.
- Removed: Psip, PPLOG, Quisp, Hiawatha and the podcast grabber.
- Added: flsynclient, synclient and xz.
- Global system font set, much better fonts in Opera, GTK themes work better, the Raleigh GTK theme now works perfectly.
- Fixed Opera n' CUPS problem.
- Fixed the help page and the welcome page.
- Updated Woof to the version used to build Slackpup 0.4 beta.
- All Puppy MIME-type icons I removed are back now.
- New wallpaper, taken from GNOME
- Major cleanup in /usr/share and /usr/local.
- Ships without sc0ttman's optional save thingy and the SFSs from psubdir thingy, they're quite controversial, so I removed them.
- Rebuilt directly from the Puppy 4.3.1 ISO

004
- Replaced: Ayttm with Pidgin.
- Removed: cgtkcalc and ycalc (2 calculators, the other two are still there), mp (one console text editor, e3 is still there), NicoEdit, gfnrename, gplanarity, pstopwatch, Rubix, Xemeraldia, xsoldier, ctorrent, pctorrent, Axel, Uget, PictureViewer (what is that for?), pCD, pcdripper (Asunder is better) zfind and some wallpapers (the solid color and version-specific wallpapers).
- Updated: Pmusic from 1.0 to 1.0.1.
- Opera’s license moved to /usr/share/doc/legal.
- New artwork: a new icon set based on Gnome-Colors and the GNOME icon set and a new wallpaper taken from KDE.
- New icon/folder icons from GNOME.
- Some menu items removed (top, alsamixer).
- Removed some leftovers from the old 4.3.1 Abiword, PuppyBrowser, Seamonkey and Aqualung.
- Way more solid, more polished.

003
- Replaced fonts - Puppy comes with DejaVu LGC fonts, a slightly smaller variant of the DejaVu fonts that includes only Euorpean languages. I replaced them with the "normal" DejaVu fonts to support languages such as Arabic and Hebrew.
- Way better artwork, great contrast and a better choice of colors - a blend of black with blue, red and violet (see the screenies!)
- Tiny clean-up, the removal Seamonkey left some .desktop files.
- Updated Moo with a small fix.
- Some polish.

002
- Opera 10.60 replaces Seamonkey and PuppyBrowser, it is installed under /root/.local for much easier future upgrades.
- Superb multimedia experience - upgraded multimedia packages like ffmpeg, libogg, libvorbis, libsndfile and xine-lib (the list is longer), so now KLP supports WebM, FLV and all common audio and video formats.
- Updated: Woof skeleton, now KLP auto-connects to wired networks and includes pman.
- Added: Rerwin's modem fix.
- Upgraded: gnumeric, Abiword, goffice, libgsf, Moo, network tray icon.

001
- Replaced: Aqualung with Pmusic, Pprocess with LXTask, the ancient absvolume with Retrovol, the old free memory and network applets with Quirky's.
- Added: Bones, woo-ff, Precord, pupRadio, the Moo remaster tool (it was used to build KLP).
- Upgraded: the CPU scaling wizard, the JWM configuration wizard, the network wizard, the classic network wizard, Pburn, pCD, Pfilesearch, Pfind, PMirrorget, Pschedule, You2pup, the SFS converter, Rox and JWM to their Quirky versions.
- The Woof skeleton is upgraded, so you get the new gtk-splash, clean unmount on shutdown, Barry's simple network setup wizard and various improvements.
- Flash 10.1.53.64 (the one with that serious vulnerability fixed) instead of the aging Flash 9 that YouTube and many sites no longer support.
- A slightly modified version of Lucid Puppy's first run wizard: I modified it to automatically detect the running Puppy name and version, removed some incorrect labels and changed the text.
- Lucid Puppy's artwork.

Download: here (includes a 005 to 006 delta!)

Two notes:
1) Use the 4.3.1 devx as the devx, it's OK. I suggest you to compile stuff on a vanilla 4.3.1, because this one has many stuff updated and your packages may end up incompatible with 4.3.1.
2) Each version is in its own directory. You can update previous versions with the deltas I provided

Cheers!

Credit goes to DaveS for many useful PETs and suggestions, thank you so much!

Thanks to KLP I'm officially in love with Opera ... and I'd like you to know that working on this puplet really improved my knowledge about Puppy and my l33t Linux haxx0r skillz

I must admit I'm very very pleased with KLP 006, despite the pessimism and low self-esteem I've always had

If there's anything wrong or bad with KLP, feel free to share it with me and everybody else, I'm a perfectionist and I want 007 (if there is a 007) to be PERFECT.

[nooby]

Totally failed to get wired network going which work on almost all other puppies.

MP4 fails at times too which work in quirky 1.0

[Iguleder]

Wired networks work well as in 4.3.1 or even better, I have no idea what you did that caused that

Regarding MP4, I think I'm going to try to recompile gxine.

[nooby]

Heheh

[Iguleder]

First of all, I didn't mention Quirky, you did. I did not say KLP is a Quirky-based puplet ...

Regarding your network card, if it worked with 4.3.1, it must work with KLP. You have 3 different network wizards ... don't say it isn't enough.

[nooby]

Tested to see if it is my fault it fail to work. Downloaded Luci-208 and that one gave me a connection right away asking if I wanted to save it.

Most likely I have NVidia Ge Force chips LAN ethernet card integrated.

What am I supposed to do to get it connect?

Luci-208 played the MP4 that your KLP failed to play.

[Iguleder]

Luci auto-connects to wired networks, KLP doesn't.

Try the classic network wizard ... if it works on 4.3.1, should work here too. By the way: GeForce is a GPU

[DaveS]

Iguleder, did you upgrade Gnumeric? The latest fixes some important bugs that were still present in 4.3.1?
Does Opera work with CUPS? I failed to get that to work a while back. Maybe you have left PuppyBrowser in for CUPS?

[Iguleder]

Same gnumeric ... and yes, CUPS works with Opera. I also linked the email icon to Opera's mail thingy, it's a very very nice setup.

It has many bugs fixed, mainly Woof-related ones. Rox's focus bug and JWM's fullscreen madness are gone

I'm still working on the multimedia overhaul, recompiled many things, but I'm looking for a way to remove all old stuff from 4.3.1, it's very complicated because they're split between the main SFS and the devx.

[nooby]

I tested all three network ways to do it but none of them worked and I failed to find the nvidia or HP LAN driver to use.

[DaveS]

[DaveS]

All boots up and sets up nicely on my system. Gnumeric update works but needs a symlink in usr/bin symlink gnumeric-1.10 as gnumeric.
From set up menu, set up mouse/keyboard offers option to set up touchpad, but fisynclient is not installed, so menu entry plays dead.
Tried to update Abiword to latest but it got a bit complex so will wait till 02/opera.
Nice to be messin with 4.3.1 again, its so snappy.

[Iguleder]

I removed the old gnumeric, libgsf, goffice, faac, faad, ffmpeg, libao, libogg, libsamplerate, libsndfile, libvorbis, xine-lib and xvidcore.

I have compiled newer versions, and the new ffmpeg/xine-lib now support FLV, x264, WebM and all the fancy stuff.

I'm currently working on transplanting the new versions, compiled them all, they work just fine. I kept the old gxine because the new one uses 2 windows by default, I can supply it with default settings that disable that, but if the old one works, why change?

[DaveS]

I notice the filechooser dialogue still loads half off my screen. Do you need a pic to demonstrate?

[Iguleder]

Ummm ... what file chooser? The GTK one?