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#271 Post by kirk »

- Apply the .pet to prevent white on yellow for PPM.
That should be fixed in 510.
- Warning about using Alsa sound wizard (It disabled my save file)
The Alsa sound wizard has been removed from the menu.
How to set up Firefox for use as non-spot
In 510 if you click the FAQs link and then click "Firefox won't save to xxxx." you'll find your answer.
- Any other stuff that a first time user should be aware of.
Read all of the FAQs, there's not much to read. It should be very helpful to new users.

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#272 Post by Colonel Panic »

kirk wrote:Do you have two NIC cards? I suspect you tech guy is confused. Even if you had two IP addresses that shouldn't make much difference. To check your IP address open a terminal and type ifconfig.
Hi. Sadly I wasn't able to do this as the system is gradually being upgraded to Windows 7 this week and I didn't want to risk "rocking the boat."

He did tell me what he thought the problem was though; apparently the Fatdog system is failing to release its IP address so it's showing up as a "ghost computer" on the network.

Maybe if I'm unable to investigate this further it's better if I write this off, especially if no one else is experiencing this problem when running Fatdog (or any other Puppy) on a networked Windows XP Pro system.

Thanks for your attention anyway,

CP .
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#273 Post by Barburo »

Thanks for your quick reply Kirk,
I had missed the link to the FAQ on the Home Page.
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#274 Post by Warrior522 »

I'm a bit confused; is 510 released yet, or are the references to using it only from those with a beta?

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System Monitor?

#275 Post by Barburo »

I was wondering if there are plans to include a System Monitor in FD500.

I boot FD500 with the .sfs for 32 bit libraries and the .sfs for 32-bit OxygenOffice works just fine.
I like gkrellm (small, efficient, and multi-functional) and I tried ttuuxxx's pet from here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=39202

I get an xmessage "gkrellm segmentation fault: (Initializing)"
B.
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#276 Post by moB »

Colonel Panic wrote:
kirk wrote:Do you have two NIC cards? I suspect you tech guy is confused. Even if you had two IP addresses that shouldn't make much difference. To check your IP address open a terminal and type ifconfig.
Hi. Sadly I wasn't able to do this as the system is gradually being upgraded to Windows 7 this week and I didn't want to risk "rocking the boat."

He did tell me what he thought the problem was though; apparently the Fatdog system is failing to release its IP address so it's showing up as a "ghost computer" on the network.

Maybe if I'm unable to investigate this further it's better if I write this off, especially if no one else is experiencing this problem when running Fatdog (or any other Puppy) on a networked Windows XP Pro system.

Thanks for your attention anyway,

CP .
Can you set the network to accept a static IP?

That way the DHCP lease expiring would not be an issue.

Also...
We had a similar "problem" on a LAN with two IP addresses for a box with ethernet and wifi connections, both of which were being connected to the network. If it's not the lease issue, that might well be the ticket?

Or...
To set the puppy to keep up one can set the ip to go down and back up at intervals more suitable to the msWindows LAN.

If you reconnect too quickly (ie too soon) you will get multiple IP's listed on your LAN. (Sixty seconds or more is required for most DNS records to reset.) The timeouts vary, so check with your local support.

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 killall -HUP eth0
...or something like that.

http://www.google.com/search?q=HUP+reload+linux


Best results to you
moB


It's not a linux vs ms thing.

All windows--ms wasn't even the first :lol:

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#277 Post by kirk »

Can you set the network to accept a static IP?
Yes, you'll see a button for that in the network wizard. You'll want to make sure that any static address you use is available and out of the DHCP server's range.
We had a similar "problem" on a LAN with two IP addresses for a box with ethernet and wifi connections, both of which were being connected to the network. If it's not the lease issue, that might well be the ticket?
That's only possible if you have a network cable connected and you configure your wireless card to connect. Your wireless card will not just connect on it's own, unless you have configured it to do so. If you open a terminal and type ifconfig you'll get something like this (probably not this long):

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# ifconfig
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:26:B9:E0:A5:6A  
          inet addr:192.168.1.200  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
          Interrupt:20 Memory:96900000-96920000 

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

ppp0      Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol  
          inet addr:75.204.58.41  P-t-P:66.174.168.64  Mask:255.255.255.255
          UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:1303 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:1438 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 
          RX bytes:802841 (784.0 KiB)  TX bytes:198169 (193.5 KiB)

wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:23:14:DC:48:B8  
          inet addr:192.168.1.220  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

# 
I'm actually using ppp0 right now which is a modem, but for this example I brought up the other interfaces and gave them addresses. Some explanation:

eth0 --- This is my hard-wired lan connection. I gave it an address of 192.168.1.200.

lo --- This is the loop-back device, it should always have an address of 127.0.0.1.

ppp0 --- This is my cell phone modem. The cell carrier's DHCP assigned me an address of 75.204.58.41.

wlan0 --- This is my wifi card. I gave it an address of 192.168.1.220.


Your interface names will vary, except for lo and probably eth0. In this example I have three ip addresses and all of my interfaces are up so ifconfig shows their status. If I had not caused all of those interfaces to be active, ifconfig would have just shown the lo interface and the interface I was actually using.

I suspect that you're using Windows, and Windows gets an IP address from your DHCP server, then when you shutdown/hybernate and Windows doesn't release that address. Then you boot up Fatdog64 and it gets an IP address from your DHCP server for that same MAC address. You might try opening a terminal on Windows (Start-run-cmd) and typing ipconfig /release and then shutting down. I don't know why you IT guy cares if your MAC address has two address assigned to it unless your running out of addresses.

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#278 Post by Colonel Panic »

OK, finally managed to grab some quiet time in the computer suite.

Here's my ipconfig (I'm posting from Fatdog 64-500 as before);

eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 48:5B:39:C2:67:66
inet addr:192.168.1.107 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:31436 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:29078 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:36993229 (35.2 MiB) TX bytes:4148922 (3.9 MiB)
Interrupt:28 Base address:0x4000

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

Hope someone can make sense of this!

Cheers,

CP .
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#279 Post by kirk »

Colonel Panic,

That shows that you have one IP address, eth0 has an address of 192.168.1.107.

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#280 Post by Colonel Panic »

kirk wrote:Colonel Panic,

That shows that you have one IP address, eth0 has an address of 192.168.1.107.
Thanks for the info. I assume that means it's not "ghosting" on the server network any more? In any case I haven't heard any more about it from the tech people here so it may have been a one-off.

Cheers,

CP .
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#281 Post by lakedude »

So is the nVidia pet labeled "510 only" also good for 511?

How much begging would I need to do to get "kill" on the right mouse click?

Great job on FD-64, thanks for all the hard work!

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#282 Post by WillM »

I installed the hpijs_print and hplip_scan pets today. I am glad to say my printer works great. This is an HP PSC 1200 series. The scanner didn't fare so well. I received an error during device I/O. But I am very happy to have a printer. Thanks

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#283 Post by jamesbond »

lakedude wrote:So is the nVidia pet labeled "510 only" also good for 511?
Yes, 511 is bugfix to 510 (mainly dhcpcd issues but also other small fixes - can't remember the details now). Everything else it the same.
How much begging would I need to do to get "kill" on the right mouse click?
:lol: you will need to explain the feature first. I don't get what you mean. Perhaps we can do it just by tweaking the window manager configuration.
Great job on FD-64, thanks for all the hard work!
You're much welcome.
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#284 Post by jamesbond »

WillM wrote:I installed the hpijs_print and hplip_scan pets today. I am glad to say my printer works great. This is an HP PSC 1200 series. The scanner didn't fare so well. I received an error during device I/O. But I am very happy to have a printer. Thanks
Thanks to rcrsn51 for the pets :)
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#285 Post by rcrsn51 »

WillM wrote:I installed the hpijs_print and hplip_scan pets today. I am glad to say my printer works great. This is an HP PSC 1200 series. The scanner didn't fare so well. I received an error during device I/O.
Thanks for the feedback. I have tested these packages successfully in 511 on both a Deskjet and a Photosmart. So I don't know why a PSC would behave differently. I'm assuming that scanning worked with a 32-bit Puppy? Which HP package did you use there?

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#286 Post by WillM »

Sorry about the double post. I meant to put that in the Fatdog64-511 thread. I haven't tried the scanner in 32 bit Puppy, but I will.
Thanks for these drivers rcrsn51. I appreciate that a lot to have a printer on here.

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#287 Post by WillM »

I tried the scanner on Puppy 520 and Linux Mint 8. In both cases I received the same error.
Failed to open hpaio:/usb/psc_1200series

So I plugged this in to a Windows XP machine and found out that scanner does work in there.

I don't know, maybe I am setting this up wrong in Linux. I thought to use xsane for this. Thanks again for these printer drivers.

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#288 Post by lakedude »

jamesbond wrote:
lakedude wrote:How much begging would I need to do to get "kill" on the right mouse click?
:lol: you will need to explain the feature first. I don't get what you mean. Perhaps we can do it just by tweaking the window manager configuration.
On regular 32 bit puppy there is a feature that comes up when you right click called "kill" which will "kill" any program at which you happen to aim the pointer.

On other (non-puppy) distros I make a taskbar link to "kill" with a skull and crossbones icon.

Kill is very useful for terminating misbehaving software, like when a browser gets hung. One click and it the problem is gone instantly.

Having kill available as a right click option is very handy, even better than having a cute skull and crossbones shortcut.

Thanks very much for your time an effort!

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#289 Post by lakedude »

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3079/killb.jpg

This should be a link to a pic showing what I'm talking about...

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Thanks for Fatdog

#290 Post by Eathray »

I just got my first dual-core laptop, and knew there was a Puppy called Fatdog64 just for me. Thanks for making this!!!

First impressions... love it.

I can see I have a lot to learn though. I'm going to have to read this thread with care. Tried to download Firefox and it didn't. Well, it's lightning fast, and I can get by with Seamonkey for a while.

Thanks again. I'm sure I'll be back with questions :P

Eathray

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