Fatdog64-500 final

[Lobster]

Created a promotional video for Youtube
Using music from Creative Commons (ccmixter) and Openshot in Fatdog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syjkBp1PIiM

[01micko]

hiya kirk, 007

Been running for a few hours now.. nice!

One gripe, (probably already mentioned, but I have the wog, therefore an excuse), when updating PPM the white on yellow in rxvt is a bit crappy.

Other than that, runs like a rocket,

Great!

Cheers

[kirk]

Gcmartin,

Sfs loading is like any other puppy, but I've only did basic testing with the multisession cd/dvd mode. I don't really know if multisession supports sfs files, Flash would know about that.


Wognath,

When you boot with puppy pfix=nox do you end up at a prompt?

[jamesbond]

Wognath, I'm shooting in the dark here, since I don't have any VIA graphics card.

1) Put this line into puppy's boot command line:

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nomodeset

and see whether you can get to the console screen. From there, run xorgwizard-old, which will likely fail. Then you can post the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log here.

2) Or, you can try this this puppy's boot command line instead

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video=viafb:viafb_mode=1024x768,viafb_bpp=32,viafb_refresh=60

Then run xorgwizard-old.

3) if this still doesn't work, try booting as usual. When you get to the blank screen, wait for a while until the harddisk activities settle down, then type this

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modprobe viafbp

and see if you get your screen back. If you do, then continue with xorgwizard-old.

gcmartin, I also don't use DVD-save mode of Fatdog (or any other puppies, for that matter). Let me try your test cases and we'll see what can be done about it, but no promises

01micko, what white-on-yellow stuff is fixed with the hotfix pet on first page of this thread.

cheers!

[jamesbond]

Ok I did some tests with DVD multisession.

4 items found in LiveDVD testing.
Item
Problem: Missing documentation or solid implementation for adding SFSs to LiveCD.
Scenario: When BootManager is told to use OpenOffice SFS file, the system explodes when rebooted from LiveCD (no boot parameters are selected)
Circumvention: Boot with boot options Puppy pfix=1 in order to get back to desktop

It doesn't explode on my system. The likely explanation why it explodes on yours is, there isn't enough memory to load the SFS (because everything running in DVD-mode must be loaded into RAM). But the SFS is not loaded, no matter how it's configured - this is a bug.

Flash, do you have any idea whether this also happens in other puppies?

Meanwhile, the workaround is as kirk has explained it - merge the main SFS with the extra SFS you want to use.

Item
Problem: In LiveCD mode, when session is saved to LiveCD, subsequent reboot does NOT restore the LAN card settings. I was expecting the LAN settings to be saved in the 'session save to cd" that occurs on reboot.
Scenario: Boot system to desktop. Open Terminal and check for an assigned IP address. No address is there on the LAN's interface
Circumvention: Rerun Net-Wizard everytime you boot

Doesn't happen on my system. Network connection (wireless in my case) is restored properly. My guess is, this will happen if the network card is slow to initialise (this happens on my other machine with broadcom wireless).

Item
Problem: I was NOT able to shutdown and save my desktop data.
Scenario: Turns out that I had sda5 and sr0 mounted. The system would NOT save to DVD, unless I “unmounted

[Barburo]

Just tried FatDog 64 for the first time. It is very fast with my notebook:

Processor : 2x Genuine Intel(R) CPU U4100 @ 1.30GHz
Resolution: 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset

I have experienced problems with some other puppies getting the correct screen resolution but this was automatically recognized and set-up. This Pup just screams along. Good job - will keep testing.
B.

[Wognath]

kirk and jamesbond,
My netbook gets to "loading kernel modules", then the screen goes blank. With pfix=nox, no prompt. If I blindly type in commands, such as deleting a file, or "reboot", nothing happens. So my assumption that this was just graphics was wrong. If you have any ideas, I'll try them. Otherwise, I'll just stand by until someone with this processor and more knowledge than I have weighs in. Thanks for your help.

[Billtoo]

I did a frugal install on this pc today and installed the nvidia driver from your downloads page:

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
15102 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3020.318 FPS
20176 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4035.168 FPS
20157 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4031.205 FPS
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce 9300 GE/PCI/SSE2
Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 256.35
Direct Rendering Yes

Thankyou very much

[jamesbond]

kirk and jamesbond,
My netbook gets to "loading kernel modules", then the screen goes blank. With pfix=nox, no prompt. If I blindly type in commands, such as deleting a file, or "reboot", nothing happens. So my assumption that this was just graphics was wrong. If you have any ideas, I'll try them. Otherwise, I'll just stand by until someone with this processor and more knowledge than I have weighs in. Thanks for your help.

Wognath, have you tried my suggestion above? Instead of pfix=nox, try "nomodeset" for option 1, or try the "video" line for option 2 above.

Barburo, Billtoo, happy that this works for you.

[Billtoo]

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
49862 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9972.238 FPS
51798 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10359.481 FPS
51829 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10365.601 FPS
51798 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10359.553 FPS
#
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 256.35
Direct Rendering Yes
#
Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Memory 8186MB (165MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sun 11 Jul 2010 08:19:50 PM GMT+5
Display
Resolution 1280x1024 pixels
OpenGL Renderer GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation

thanks again.

[Wognath]

jamesbond,
Yes, I tried all of your suggestions, several times each!! I hope I did it right--adding your instructions to the boot options on the grub screen. For example,

Boot Options psubdir=Fatdog nomodeset

Is that right?
I always get a blank screen and shell commands don't execute, as far as I can tell.

[gcmartin]

@jamesbond Thanks for your test findings

t doesn't explode on my system. The likely explanation why it explodes on yours is, there isn't enough memory to load the SFS (because everything running in DVD-mode must be loaded into RAM). But the SFS is not loaded, no matter how it's configured - this is a bug.

I am including a Hardinfo summary report on my system. Hard to believe that I'm running out of memory. Pretty hefty environment for to run a Puppy in.

Doesn't happen on my system. Network connection (wireless in my case) is restored properly. My guess is, this will happen if the network card is slow to initialise (this happens on my other machine with broadcom wireless).

And, on my LAN card, I have 2 LAN cards in this machine. The Active LAN is on eth1. I would have thought that if I had setup my session and active on my LAN and WAN from the FATDOG64 desktop, that at shutdown it would have been saved for subsequent reboot.

[jamesbond]

Wognath,

Yes, you're right. If my suggestions doesn't work, then I have no idea on how to proceed further ...

gcmartin, yes you're right too. 4GB of RAM is enough for the thing to work. I'm just confused why it explodes in your system but it doesn't on mine (the SFS file is there, I can find it in /, but it simply doesn't get loaded).

As for the network card, you're right. It should be, and it actually works for me - I setup my wireless via network-wizard, shutdown and reboot, and next time wireless is already configured. I didn't try with my wired ethernet - very seldom using that these days, but yeah, I will test it when get the chance.

[Barburo]

White on yellow .pet doesn't install. I tried several times - same result.
My PPM is empty - no packages. Any suggestions that i can try?
*** edit - tried several other packages from /fatdog/pets/500/ - same problem.

[smokey01]

jamesbond I deleted the arusb_lnx.ko as suggested. I then rebooted the system, plugged in the wireless dongle but the dongle was not found. I then copied the ar9170 *.fw files to /lib/firmware as suggested and rebooted, still not found.

I then tried network wizard and loaded the module ar9179usb.ko and tried network wizard again. This time the driver for wlan0 could be seen. I scanned to see if the network could be found and it was. I then connected as normal and all worked fine. I then rebooted to see if the setting were saved, they were. All good now.

I did try to download Skype but it failed as it would not allow the file to be saved to /temp. Firefox is setup to download to /root/spot/downloads.

I was able download skype by running firefox from a terminal window. I installed skype and all worked well until I tried the webcam. The webcam crashed skype and closed.

My webcam is a logitech pro 4000 which was recognised by skype. Something amiss here. Skype with video is not a biggie for me but it will be for some.

Smokey

[blestina]

White on yellow .pet doesn't install. I tried several times - same result.
My PPM is empty - no packages. Any suggestions that i can try?

I had the same problem...

You have to download the file to Downloads...

Then click on it...

then it works....

[jamesbond]

barburo, as explained by kirk in earlier pages, please do this:
1) download the hotfix, put it in /root/spot/Downloads
2) then use Rox, open /root/spot/Download, and click it from there. Direct execution will not work because firefox is running under user spot which doesn't have priviledge to install pets.

01smokey, thanks for confirming. This arus_lnx.ko should be deleted in the next iteration of Fatdog. As for skype - I'm not sure there is anything much I can do. I took skype from its website, throw in some 32-bit libraries, and make a pet. Does the webcam work through other means, e.g. try capturing some video via ffmpeg, does it work?

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ffmpeg -f video4linux2 -i /dev/video -r 25 test.mp4

As for why firefox won't download to /tmp, yes well it runs under spot and spot doesn't have access to /tmp, it can only download to /root/spot/Downloads. This is a security measure - kirk designed all network-related programs to run under spot.

blestina, to use the PPM, please click "configure" and then "update now" first. Then close/exit the PPM and restart again, it will show all the available pets.

cheers!

[Lobster]

kirk designed all network-related programs to run under spot

Good idea. Well implemented. Works.

I have been looking at the screencaster (under graphics)
which Jamesbond pointed out to me.
I missed it, possibly because it was not there.
I had changed to jwm and even when moving back to openbox it was missing . . .
Did a fresh pfix=ram reboot
. . . ah there it is . . .

Screencaster recording of video was working
but I am yet to get sound working.
Anyway was able to cobble together this test video
using a sepearate sound recording
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnWLPrZA1iM
This explains how spot is used
/root/spot/downloads
(not download as it says in the video)
to save Firefox downloads

The green sound icon (bottom) bottom right
regularly turns itself to mute mode without my assistance
- possibly when a program such as xine
or other using sound output runs . . .

The USB headset I am using I just got working
with Audacity in Lucid 2.10

Unsure how to get it working . .
there is no mhwavedit or audacity to test
and wavrec does not seem to be on the command line . . .

Update
Just heard audacity is on its way for Fatdog . . .

Thanks guys

[Billtoo]

I'm running live with a save file on this computer and I downloaded and installed the ati-catalyst.pet from your download page.

# glxgears
16986 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3397.078 FPS
16980 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3395.880 FPS
16984 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3396.718 FPS
16978 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3395.416 FPS
#
OpenGL
Vendor ATI Technologies Inc.
Renderer ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
Version 3.3.9836 Compatibility Profile Context
Direct Rendering Yes
#
Computer
Processor 4x AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 810 Processor
Memory 7928MB (343MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Mon 12 Jul 2010 09:12:48 AM GMT+5
Display
Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation

On my other fatdog installs I've added quite a few pets and everything is working well, I compiled a few smaller apps and they work good too,

Thanks for the great pup

[jamesbond]

Billtoo, happy to hear that.

If you have compiled a few apps that you think may be useful for others, and you have packaged into a pet, do let kirk or myself know about it - we can upload it to the repository and share with others.

I've just released some collection of tools for making music with Fatdog64. Announcement here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 765#433765.

Enjoy.