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shinobar


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PostPosted: Sat 18 Sep 2010, 02:18    Post subject: Re: rp-ppoe  

yordanj94 wrote:
Fresh frugal instal LupQ+native rp-ppooe.
It is the same.
Cable plugged can't ,cable plugged out and then connected works.
The same with live CD and live DVD.Setup made ,reboot,saved on DVD,again reboot and the same.

Thanks yordan.
I am awaiting your next report with LupQ-509 + rp-ppoe-fix + rc_sysinit-20100916.
Have a happy weekend!

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PostPosted: Sat 18 Sep 2010, 09:04    Post subject:  

Shinobar, I was lazy and only updated with the older 508 or even 506 pupsave so it did a lot of corrections and flash worked.

But I have to do connect again each time me boot up while way back it did remember how to connect.

So it could be due to me too lazy.

Just a naive thought.

Suppose just me lazy or suppose also many others a bit lazy.

What we need is a puppy that can import all the emails and bookmarks and such from the other puppies. That way everbody would be more willing to try out different Puppy versions. Now one need to remake everything over again.
Too much work.


Now I have three fave Puppy distros.

Quirky 1.0 or 1.2 not sure which to use.
LupQ 509 but it has no email due to Quirky has all the emails already set up and me too lazy to do all that work again. One need to be able to import such from Quirky to LupQ?

I ahve also tried out Puppeee and Fluppy but don't like that it do indexing of directories. Lock up the machine if one have only 500MB memory.

So if I could easily move the Seamonkey email set up out of the Quirky 1.0 and import it into LupQ or to have it as a portable .sfs on the hard drive would be even better.


The best would be to have everything totally portable on the HDD and then regardless of what Puppy one used one had access to every program but on the HDD and not dependent on the pupsave. [/b


Now the Pupsave on Quirky is some 780MB and take a very long time to back up.

So need to trim it down. Sorry for being so confused.

I really love your version of Lucid. LupQ is a good distro.

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PostPosted: Sat 18 Sep 2010, 10:18    Post subject: import all the emails and bookmarks  

nooby wrote:

What we need is a puppy that can import all the emails and bookmarks and such from the other puppies. That way everbody would be more willing to try out different Puppy versions. Now one need to remake everything over again.
Too much work.

As for the seamonkey, the emails at /root/.mozilla/seamonkey/*.default/Mail/* as the default.
But I recommend to set it at the hard disk, say /mnt/home/Mail.

The bookmark at /root/.mozilla/seamonkey/*.default/bookmarks.html, also cookies at /root/.mozilla/seamonkey/*.default directory.
You can show it by the ROX-Filer with click the eye icon on the menu bar of the filer.

Mount with one click the old pupsave, for example lupqsave-old.2fs, qrkysave.2fs, etc. .
You can find /mnt/mnt+home+*+*save.?fs/root/.mozilla directory.

Overwrite the whole /root/.mozilla directory with the one of old pupsave. Then you can import all the seamonkey setting.

Another way with using link:
Move .mozilla directory to /mnt/home.
Make a link to /mnt/home/.mozilla at /root/.mozilla.

Isn't it a good idea?

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PostPosted: Sat 18 Sep 2010, 10:40    Post subject: Save file to...  

Another tip:
Make /mnt/home/tmp directory. and set there as the 'Save file to' of the seamonkey or another browsers.

Large files and important files to be saved uneder /mnt/home in general.
I also have /mnt/home/my-documents directory to save my personal data.
It is clever way for saving pupsave space and for safety.

Seamonkey menu bar > Edit > Preferences > Download

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PostPosted: Sat 18 Sep 2010, 11:03    Post subject: Compress old pupsave  

You can delete the old pupsave after you have imported the data.
But if you like to keep it as a backup, you can compress it:
(On the LupQ) Right click the old pupsave file, and select gzip.

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PostPosted: Sat 18 Sep 2010, 12:10    Post subject: new mhwaveedit opens retrovol  

I discovered that it's important to compile programs specifically for Lucid Puppy.
I had been compiling for Lighthouse Puppy 4.43 .
I wanted mhwaveedit to launch retrovol .
Here's my method using lupq:

I made a folder in /root named 'mhwaveedit-retrovol-1.4.20'

Then I compiled at the terminal:

./configure --prefix=/usr --without-oss --with-default-mixerapp=retrovol --without-portaudio --without-sdl --without-oss --without-jack --without-check-casts

make

make install DESTDIR=/root/mhwaveedit-retrovol-1.4.20/

I removed the pet specs file and renamed desktop file to duplicate the one in Puppy.
Put in the icon path in desktop file. Then made the pet package the usual way
with the command dir2pet

Here's the pet package that works on all Lucid Puppies
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-590211f0.html

You should switch to this version.

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PostPosted: Sat 18 Sep 2010, 12:18    Post subject: right click in Rox  

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Here's another attempt at putting useful commands in Rox Right click
such as opening various useful applications.

lupq-Right-click-1.0.pet

Download here
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-76a21ca4.html


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PostPosted: Sat 18 Sep 2010, 12:26    Post subject: PPPOE  

Quote:
Thanks yordan.
I am awaiting your next report with LupQ-509 + rp-ppoe-fix + rc_sysinit-20100916.
Have a happy weekend!


Hi Shinobar.
Back again.
I couldn't try all of the possible combination but so far here are the results:

Fresh frugall install on hdd.
1)-installed rp-ppoe-fix didn't work.
2)-installed rp-ppoe-fix + rc_sysinit didn't work.
3)-installed rc_sysinit worked !!!!
Do i have to test something else i mean other combination .
To tell the true i am a little bit confused .
Just don't know if i do the test correct
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PostPosted: Sat 18 Sep 2010, 12:51    Post subject: Re: Compress old pupsave  

shinobar wrote:
You can delete the old pupsave after you have imported the data.
But if you like to keep it as a backup, you can compress it:
(On the LupQ) Right click the old pupsave file, and select gzip.



Edit
Shinobar, I have email going now thanks to your encouragement and a friendly guy descibing how one can do it in a PM sent to me. Great thanks to both of you.


Anyway LupQ seems to be one of puppies me like best just now but I like Quirky 1.0 very much too.

Hopefully LupQ can give me access to programs from Ubuntu that is difficult to make pets for for Quirky?

Edit

Seamonkey act strangely when editing so that could be a side effect of me having it portable on the mnt/home/.mozilla ?

First time me experience that error. I maybe start a new thread about it. Has nothign to do with LupQ

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PostPosted: Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:16    Post subject: Re: new mhwaveedit opens retrovol  

don570 wrote:
Here's the pet package that works on all Lucid Puppies
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-590211f0.html

You should switch to this version.

Thanks don570 for the new build.
The binary was not stripped.
I will replace /usr/bin/mhwaveedit with your new build stripped.

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 00:13    Post subject: Re: PPPOE  

yordanj94 wrote:
Fresh frugall install on hdd.
1)-installed rp-ppoe-fix didn't work.
2)-installed rp-ppoe-fix + rc_sysinit didn't work.
3)-installed rc_sysinit worked !!!!
Thanks yordan for the report.
LupQ-509 + rc_sysinit-20100916 works with original Roaring Penguin, right?
I wonder why LupQ-509 + rp-ppoe-fix + rc_sysinit-20100916 does not work.

...OK, I refined the pinstall.sh script.
Attached new rp-ppoe-fix-20100919.pet.

Assume LupQ-509 + rc_sysinit-20100916 works.
Stop the connection.
Install the rp-ppoe-fix-20100919.pet.
Try to settup connection without reboot. What happens?
If success, reboot PC and connect, What happens?
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 00:58    Post subject: Re: PPPOE  

P.S.
If it does not work, Type on the virtual terminal:
Code:
ls -l /etc/ppp/resolv.conf

It should show it is a link to ../resolv.conf:
lrwxrwxrwx **** /etc/ppp/resolv.conf -> ../resolv.conf

Look up the files /etc/ppp/resolv.conf and /etc/resolv.conf with text editor.
If /etc/ppp/resolv.conf seems right and /etc/resolv.conf not,
Override /etc/resolv.conf with the copy of /etc/ppp/resolv.conf.

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 01:32    Post subject: Re: PPPOE  

shinobar wrote:
P.S.
If it does not work, Type on the virtual terminal:
Code:
ls -l /etc/ppp/resolv.conf

It should show it is a link to ../resolv.conf:
lrwxrwxrwx **** /etc/ppp/resolv.conf -> ../resolv.conf

Look up the files /etc/ppp/resolv.conf and /etc/resolv.conf with text editor.
If /etc/ppp/resolv.conf seems right and /etc/resolv.conf not,
Override /etc/resolv.conf with the copy of /etc/ppp/resolv.conf.


Hi Shinobar.
Installed the rp-ppoe-fix-20100919.pet-no reboot setup again-didn't work.
Reboot ,again didn't work.New setup didn't.
Uninstalled rp-ppoe-fix-20100919.pet started to work again.
I tiped in terminall-"ls -l /etc/ppp/resolv.conf" and got the result you said and again nothing changed.
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 03:17    Post subject: Re: PPPOE  

yordanj94 wrote:
Installed the rp-ppoe-fix-20100919.pet-no reboot setup again-didn't work.

Thanks for the test.
Under LupQ-509 + rc_sysinit-20100916 + rp-ppoe-fix-20100919.pet,
Edit /usr/sbin/ppoe-connect:
at line 222 or so, insert the word 'true'.
Code:
if test "$DNSTYPE" = "SERVER" ; then
    true # Sorry, dude... # 16sep10 shinobar: symlink of resolv.conf from the suggestion of npierce
    #rm -f /etc/resolv.conf
    #ln -s /etc/ppp/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf

Will you try?

P.S.
I have uploaded rc_sysinit-20100916-1.pet, 'true' inserted, at another topic.
You can test with LupQ-509 + rc_sysinit-20100916 + rp-ppoe-fix-20100919-1.pet.

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 04:05    Post subject:  

Bonjour shinobar,
have downoaded and delta-sfs'ed the iso-delta-508-to-509.iso (1st time I do that !); got my lupq-508-save file updated; and all is gone OK !
thanks !

nooby wrote:
...or suppose also many others a bit lazy...

... Hmmm....I recognize beeing one of the many.... Embarassed
Quote:
What we need is a puppy that can import all the emails and bookmarks and such from the other puppies

Hi nooby ! Thanks for your not that so much "naive" thought...which got a very clear and highly usefull answer ! (have bookmarked it !)
Thanks again shinobar !

A plus tard! Charlie
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