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Oh, I see... That Israeli military service....
Let's hope he will come back soon...

darkduck wrote:Oh, I see... That Israeli military service....
Let's hope he will come back soon...

Yes-I hope he stays safe.

I just checked out your blog-not much there about puppy. I noticed that you wrote about your connection problems. Are you having those problems with puppy?

There are some posts about Puppy - use a link on the right column to get them all. You're right, there are not many posts about Puppy, because my blog is about trying different distros. Puppy is just one in a line, but one of the favourites actually.
I have no issues with running Puppy on my older laptop, which is 5y.o. now. Puppy ran OOTB here.
But only 2 distros were able to find and start network on my newer laptop (1y.o), an both of them are based on Ubuntu 10.10. They are Maverick Meerkat himself and Mint.

did you try fluppy on the newer laptop? It worked so well on my old lappy that I did a full install the other day.

I'll give it a go...
That may be my next post in the blog! Thanks for an idea.
Check in a few days.

Yes, fluppy is working on newer machine! First non-Ubuntu Linux which properly configured WiFi card on this laptop!
I am writing this from Fluppy now.

Sorry for offtop in KDE topic.

darkduck wrote:Yes, fluppy is working on newer machine! First non-Ubuntu Linux which properly configured WiFi card on this laptop!
I am writing this from Fluppy now.

Sorry for offtop in KDE topic.

Glad to hear it is working for you
Perhaps you should post in the "fluppy10" thread and the "puppy on laptops" thread

I had no disk drives show in /media, but they were there after adding them in fstab, as béem suggested. I also installed hal (downloaded it from the link provided in one of the earlier posts), rebooted and my disk drives are all now in media, but can not be mounted or unmounted in konqueror, only with pmount. When I try click on the unmounted device i get message "Permission denied", and when i try to unmount mounted device it also doesn't work, here is the screen-shot.

When i plug in USB memory stick, it doesn't show up neither on desktop nor in /media, but can be mounted with pmount.

Is there, or could there be a Digikam sfs out there anywhere?? I'd love to run Digikam but I just can't seem to find it out there...

It's interesting to see kde3 on puppy. Go on!

why not directly KDE 4 ?

(I use it daily in Quirky 120! it works really pretty : Konqueror, Kwrite, Dolphin, Kdenlive, etc...)

slackfan wrote:why not directly KDE 4 ?

because kde3 is easier on resources... and there are still some fans of it.

Trinity fans, rejoice!

I'm currently trying to get Trinity to build on Puppy, natively. I think it would be nice to have a Trinity SFS built on Puppy, with all its dependencies. The reason I'm doing this is Trinity's big number of dependencies (well, after all it's an entire desktop environment) and the huge size of the official DEB packages - I'm sure we can get Trinity smaller.

At the moment I'm building the beloved Qt3. If I get this one to build, I'll continue to arts, tqtinterface, kdelibs and kdebase, which means, a minimal Trinity desktop with Kicker, Konsole, Konqueror and all the basics.

The rest should be pretty easy to add once Trinity's core is ready.

If I succeed, I want to build a Trinity puplet based on Guy Dog - sounds fun

Progress report: Qt3, tqtinterface and arts were built successfully.

Now I'm working on kdelibs - it seems to build just fine now (WOW, it took so much time and pain to get it to work), but fails to install.

I'm working on a solution for this problem and I won't let this package harm my Trinity enthusiasm. kdebase should follow kdelibs and that's the fun part already, since this package has KWin, Konsole and the base desktop.

Here's what I have so far:

212K packages-pet/tqtinterface
456K packages-pet/libxslt
1.5M packages-pet/arts
16M packages-pet/qt3

libxslt is a hard dependency of kdelibs and it's missing in my puplets, since nothing depends on it. Slacko and Lucid seem to have it, so I think I can make a Trinity SFS without it.

Also, bear in mind that these numbers are just the total size - Qt itself is about 6.5 MB and its development package is the biggest contributor to this huge size.

By the way - if I get Trinity to build correctly, I intend to contribute my build scripts to upstream (e.g its GIT repository) and make Puppy one of the distributions supported by Trinity, officially - I want Puppy to appear in the Trinity homepage.

EDIT: I beat the stubborn kdelibs.

EDIT 2: dbus-tqt and kdebase are ready too, I'm rebooting my Slacko machine so I can test Trinity

EDIT 3: Trinity starts and I see many improvements, but PNG images do not show for some reason.

EDIT 4: the problem is gone! I built Qt3 with all image loading support as plugins; building it with built-in PNG support fixes this problem.

Ok, this is a bit out of my league, but I have an idea to explore. One of my favorite puplets was this one:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 03&t=64510

Now i am not techie enough to fully understand how pri got it all to working, but would it be possible to build a KDE Trinity puplet like this by using the Trinity package from Porteus Linux? Porteus is a continuation of Slax. The Trinity packages from Porteus can be found here:

http://porteus.org/distro-download/down ... 2-bit.html

Once you get to the page above, click on the modules in the tree and then from there click on the kde3 link.

slackfan wrote:why not directly KDE 4 ?

(I use it daily in Quirky 120! it works really pretty : Konqueror, Kwrite, Dolphin, Kdenlive, etc...)

As far as I know, Trinity has the only transparent panel in the world, where you can simply place icons and elements exactly where you want. This is what makes it the best choice for for creating the easiest work flow possible.

It also has the great kde3 configuration system. The new kde4 system is
by comparison, a random bunch of kludges. (Still preferable to windows 7)
I hope kppp is included in Trinity. Or wvdial. Lots of usb modems work with these.