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Legacy OS (TEENpup) User Experience Feedback
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john biles


Joined: 17 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Sep 2010, 19:03    Post subject:  Legacy OS (TEENpup) User Experience Feedback
Subject description: The good the bad and the ugly - your thoughts
 

Hello Everyone,
Please post any problems in the other Legacy OS posts. Please only post comments on your "User Experience" Here.

Feel free to comment on the good the bad and the ugly !

Examples:

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I waited months for this and it's the biggest load of #$@@ I've every seen!


or

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I Like it worth the wait.


Feel free to say what you feel good or bad, I'll still love you. Very Happy

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john biles


Joined: 17 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Sep 2010, 19:00    Post subject:  

Hello Everyone,
For those who do get to a working desktop, do you like what you see?
Is the menu easier to follow then in TEENpup 2009 Legacy?

Please when ready share your thoughts. There are a number of Apps you don't see regularly in most Distro releases.

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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Sep 2010, 21:17    Post subject:  

Guess I'm just lucky but I booted the Legacy OS disc on 4 of 4 different machines. Did a full install now and checking everything out.And there is a lot to check out. Laughing

Overall, the default desktop looks nice and the new menus seem less busy and easier to navigate.I'll use this some and give some other better informed impressions.
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sullysat


Joined: 16 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Sep 2010, 22:51    Post subject:  

Hi john!

I don't have any hardware to load this on just now, so I'm playing in a virtualbox...

So far, I'm really liking the distro. I like the newer, more polished look, the range of useful applications, and the fact that you have most of what *I* used or would like to use already installed and running on the system, including a couple of obscure things like frostwire, dia, and some of the other charting and mindmapping apps.

As an educational consultant, this distro is going to be one I recommend to my students.

Obviously I haven't had a chance to actually USE all of the apps you've included here, but I am going through it all and so far I have one question.

For chat apps, why is there only skype and Kmess? How would a person use either of the other two major chat services, Yahoo messenger or AIM?

I looked around and I'm either not finding a way to log into those accounts, or there isn't one, which means that I still need attym or pidgin (preferred).

That's all I have so far. Looking really good.

Thanks for all the hard work!

Sully.

P.S. For those that don't already know, this little beauty is mirrored on my puppy page (see below).

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john biles


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PostPosted: Fri 03 Sep 2010, 23:29    Post subject:  

Hello sullysat,
I know what you mean about chat applications. I spent a lot of time looking for ways to chat on more protocols. Opera has a widget that allows yahoo and aim chat and is easily added. But if you looking for a separate chat app then download jbuddy from here http://www.zionsoftware.com/products/messenger/ and unpack. just drag this file jbm.sh on to the desktop and rename it. I wanted to include jbuddy by default but it is propriety software not GPL or freeware and the full version requires you buy a licence. There's nothing to stop you or anyone else running this in any Puppy running Java.

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sullysat


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PostPosted: Sat 04 Sep 2010, 00:40    Post subject:  

Awesome! I'll have to take a look at that.

Another option is Meebo, through the browser, I suppose. I was pretty sure you had a plan.

Thanks!

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johnnywinner

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Sep 2010, 01:06    Post subject:  

I just had a few bumps. Moved the files to the / on the partition; edited grub; renamed my pup_save.2fs files; and after a full install, created /etc/ppp/peers/wvdial and edited resolv.conf and wvdial.conf.

Now everything's working great. This is excellent work, John! Thanks!

I would like to know, what is the best equivalent to a devx for Legacy OS?
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smokey01


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PostPosted: Sat 04 Sep 2010, 02:53    Post subject:  

Pidgin has a pretty good list.
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sullysat


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PostPosted: Sat 04 Sep 2010, 09:47    Post subject:  

Pidgin is a great list, but its also a little cranky to install on puppy.

I'm in the browser anyway, I'll just use Meebo probably. I'm already used to that since that IS the chat client for Classic Pup.

Sully

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john biles


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PostPosted: Sat 04 Sep 2010, 10:08    Post subject:  

Hello johnnywinner,
Because Legacy OS is built on top of Puppy 2.14 you would want to start with devx_214.sfs which appears to be no longer available. You could try devx_216.sfs and rename it to devx_214.sfs from the link below.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/sfs_modules-2/

I don't know how much luck you will have as Legacy OS uses glibc 2.5 from Puppy 3.0 like ttuuxxx's 2.14x does.

What are you trying to compile? as there may be a usable package compiled somewhere else.

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technowomble


Joined: 11 Oct 2007
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Location: West Gloucestershire, UK

PostPosted: Sat 04 Sep 2010, 12:51    Post subject:  

Legacy OS ran nicely from live CD on my 400Mhz P2, and as far as I could see the apps. did what it said on the tin, except that I could not get my networking configured. Not too surprising, as I'm running WPA2 security, and from memory I couldn't get wifi working until Puppy 4.2.1, with jermimah's Pwireless. So my impression? A good distro for older hardware, using ethernet, but wifi could be problematical.
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johnnywinner

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Sep 2010, 16:03    Post subject:  

Hey John,

Thanks for the reply!

I managed to find http://puppyisos.org/isos/Puppylinux-official/2.14/.

Initially it was for UIPS (a rom patcher), and JACL (a text adventure toolkit). UIPS provides no Linux binary, although there's also JIPS, written in Java, but they both provide source code.

As far as I know no packages exist for Puppy, and the JACL binaries need a newer glibc.

Legacy OS is already packed with useful applications, but it's nice to have the option when a program only provides incompatible binaries, or none at all.
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PostPosted: Sat 04 Sep 2010, 22:33    Post subject:  

Hello anyone trying Legacy OS what do you think of Kooldock and has anyone pressed "BG" at the bottom of the screen?
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sullysat


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PostPosted: Sat 04 Sep 2010, 23:27    Post subject:  

Its nice to have kooldock installed for those who wish to use it, and the background changer is a nice touch. Can it be tweaked or modified?

If you do any little updates, my personal preference would be to see some more professional theme choices and to be able to change the mouse theme. That's one thing that Puppy always needs IMO, and something that I always add.

But all that's just window dressing on what's already looking dang good!

Sully

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PostPosted: Sun 05 Sep 2010, 04:56    Post subject:    

I do not detect sound blaster 16 with alsaconf nor-wifi usb tp-link setup with network wn321g
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