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vernel1008

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Location: philippines

PostPosted: Sat 09 Apr 2011, 12:20    Post subject:  

Thanks neurino.

I found something that work from here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64708

I think the package manager installed by default was an old one.
After installing the petget, I can now uninstall. Thanks for the quick response =)
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aarf

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Apr 2011, 15:39    Post subject:  

got this problem with ext3 partitions built in puppeee4.4rc2 on sdcard.
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sandungas

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Apr 2011, 07:30    Post subject: SYSLINUX  

Im a bit paranoid with "misterious" and "unknown" files/folders in the install tree, but after a lot of reading and tests i think i know syslinux well

I made some modifications inside "boot" folder... basically what im trying is to separate "syslinux installer files, "syslinux config files" and "syslinux tool files"
This way the user can delete the "install" folder after the installation, and will know a bit better what are the tools, i renamed some files thinking in simplicity for the final user

Additionally... i moved some script and config files to match this new folder structure
It was needed some changes in the scripts & configs (basically... some paths)

------------------------------------
About my changes in sysconfig.cnf ...
Lot of little changes here and too long to explain exactly, but i added some things like:
-help messages with the kernel parameters (you can see this help screens with F1 & F2 keys)
-added custom text lines at the bottom of the screen for the first entry (it can be done for the other ones)
-rebuilded "advanced boot options" submenu, with an option to return to main menu (i just ordered the entryes in this menu, nothing was erased)
-new "tools" submenu with some new tools (HDT, MHDD, new memtest version) and a option to return to main menu
-3 main menu options, for chainloading to the next device (usually grub in hd0,0), "reboot", and "power off"
-added needed modules to the folder "tools" for this new functions
-probably more things that i dont remember Smile


I upload a .zip attached in this message with all files needed
The .zip is "cloning" the structure of a pendrive, is fully functional if you replace the .dummy files for the real ones (as explained in one of the readme.txt)
btw... all this readme.txts are here as a log of my modifications, of course must be deleted

The windows installer worked for me... but if somebody test them, please report bugs, i have more suggestions to make about syslinux, but first things first, if this works and jemmimah like it, i will try to make it better Smile

****linux installer needs to be modifyed to install "ldsyslinux.sys" in /boot/syslinux/

Please jemmimah, take a look Rolling Eyes
syslinux puppeee.zip
Description  New syslinux
zip

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neurino


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PostPosted: Fri 29 Apr 2011, 10:12    Post subject: Re: SYSLINUX  

sandungas wrote:

-3 main menu options, for chainloading to the next device (usually grub in hd0,0), "reboot", and "power off"


I recently installed OpenSUSE 11.4 on 2nd ssd of my eee 901 but all I've been able to do is add (lately) grub also in that drive and boot using Esc key and selecting it since I didn't find an option in syslinux to boot from another drive.

Is it possible?

ATM I will not remove grub for sure from sbd but maybe it will come in handy in future or it could be nice having both options with Esc key or in puppeee boot menu.

P.S.: I would suggest OpenSUSE 11.4 with XFCE desktop env since on my 901 runs smooth and is a good alternative to Puppeee, works OTB (camera, wifi, 3G), just hotkeys missing.Of course Puppeee keeps on being my favourite Cool
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sandungas

Joined: 22 May 2010
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Apr 2011, 16:41    Post subject: Re: SYSLINUX  

neurino wrote:
sandungas wrote:

-3 main menu options, for chainloading to the next device (usually grub in hd0,0), "reboot", and "power off"


I recently installed OpenSUSE 11.4 on 2nd ssd of my eee 901 but all I've been able to do is add (lately) grub also in that drive and boot using Esc key and selecting it since I didn't find an option in syslinux to boot from another drive.

Is it possible?...

yes, syslinux can chainload directly without external modules (as i did in my example), but there is a specific syslinux module to chainload (chain.c32)

Try with this

Code:

LABEL hd0
   MENU LABEL Chainloader ---> hd0
   COM32 /tools/chain.c32
   APPEND hd0

LABEL hd1
   MENU LABEL Chainloader ---> hd1
   COM32 /tools/chain.c32
   APPEND hd1

LABEL hd2
   MENU LABEL Chainloader ---> hd2
   COM32 /tools/chain.c32
   APPEND hd2


I removed chain.32 module from the files i uploaded (because puppeee menu had no use of it)... you can get if from old pupeee releases

EeePC bios assign differente letters to devices... depending in the boot device you selected (by using ESC key you are "swapping" drive letters)
So it depends of the number of devices... if you have 2 internals, and you are booting from pendrive probably the second internal is the third device

*If this dont works modify this way:
Code:

APPEND hd0 0
APPEND hd1 0
APPEND hd2 0

These are first primary partitions of the 3 first devices
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neurino


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PostPosted: Fri 29 Apr 2011, 17:16    Post subject:  

there's a chain.c32 in my current puppeee boot folder, can't I only add entries to my syslinux.cfg?

(I know I'd better try it directly but how can I know what's the matter if doesn't work Smile )

Thanks
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sandungas

Joined: 22 May 2010
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Apr 2011, 19:22    Post subject:  

neurino wrote:
there's a chain.c32 in my current puppeee boot folder, can't I only add entries to my syslinux.cfg?

(I know I'd better try it directly but how can I know what's the matter if doesn't work Smile )

Thanks

This chain.c32 comes included as one of the modules in the syslinux release , the use of this module is optional
The one you have will work, just modify syslinux.cfg to point to his path
And dont worry if the menu entryes you edited dont works... if the entry fails you will return to syslinux main menu, no harm done
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neurino


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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 16:23    Post subject:  

Thanks sandungas,

sinc OpenSUSE is on my 2nd drive this worked on first attemp:

Code:

LABEL hd1
   MENU LABEL Chainloader ---> hd1
   COM32 /boot/chain.c32
   APPEND hd1


BUT since, as you wrote Esc key swaps drives grub's menu.lst entry doesn't work as is since it points at hd(0,0) that's correct when I boot using Esc key but should be hd(1,0) while chainloading...

Probably I should replace OpenSUSE's grub with syslinux... but since I always put timeout to 1 second to reduce boot times Esc key keeps on being however more comfortable.

Anyway I learned something new, thanks.
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Nevermore

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Location: Italy

PostPosted: Wed 04 May 2011, 09:58    Post subject:  

Hello
I'd like to report that pidgin WLM plugin has stopped working from some time.
I tried to upgrade subscribing it with the most recent MSN plugin but it did not work...

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sandungas

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PostPosted: Sat 07 May 2011, 16:29    Post subject:  

This is what i have (by now), i think is cool enought to post a photo Smile


Its fully usable, folder names/structure is "user friendly", this time i focused in aesthetic changes, i added explain texts for every entry (there are 4 lines of text availables for every entry as an explain at the bottom of the screen in blue text)

Some new functions added as the chainload submenu with most common options (restored chain.32 that i removed in the last version)
All the files are extracted from "syslinux v4.04 official release"... is the last stable one, i hope all will work but please report bugs
I dont want to introduce changes in a distro that is in "release candidate" state so if something fails is easy to revert to the "old" files
The installers are fixed to place ldlinux.sys in subfolder /boot/syslinux/
ldlinux.sys is the real syslinux, in windows is hidden, protected, and marked as a "system file"

Probably lot of minor changes to syslinux.cfg that i dont remember Smile

The intended way to install it:
1- Place "boot" folder extracted from my .zip in the root of a USB drive
2- Place the 4 puppeee files in the root of the device (dont use the sylinux.cfg that comes with puppeee)
3- Run the installer inside /boot/install/ folder (linux.sh or windows.exe)






Edit:
With the files i uploaded in my previous message i tryed to keep a changelog in several readme.txt files to avoid mistakes
This time i joined all the texts in 1 file, and ordered/erased/cleared some info there
But maybe there is more info about the changes in the old files http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=518147#518147
This time i tryed to "keep clean" the file/folder structure

Edit2:
Ops, i forgot to say that i modifyed the help1 & help2 messages, there was needed several modifications to this files to look nice in the eeepc screen
This messages are very explicit and now are more understandables by using puppeee paths and filenames, and a bit more ordered
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kazzamozz


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Location: Melbourne, Australia

PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2011, 19:57    Post subject: Pupeee Website unable to access
Subject description: Website unable to access
 

Hi Guys
is there a problem with the direct web page for Pupeee I get the following error:
http://puppeee.com/web/ when trying to access it.

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Is there another site I can got to in the meantime?

Cheers
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foxh0und

Joined: 06 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Sep 2011, 16:27    Post subject: +1 on puppeee site down  

Hi,
What happened to the puppeee site? Wanted to post some kudos after I installed. I'm on a eeepc 1005ha and everything just works with puppeee! Highly recommended. fh
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jomazq

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Sep 2011, 14:23    Post subject: src2pkg
Subject description: couldn't make one pet
 

are the pwidgets supposed to be in there? my RC2 doesn't show them after i decide what i want in the tool.
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aarf

Joined: 30 Aug 2007
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Location: around the bend

PostPosted: Thu 29 Sep 2011, 14:49    Post subject: Re: src2pkg
Subject description: couldn't make one pet
 

jomazq wrote:
are the pwidgets supposed to be in there? my RC2 doesn't show them after i decide what i want in the tool.
you have to turn them on in the drop down menus of the pwidgets gui
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PostPosted: Thu 29 Sep 2011, 20:22    Post subject:  

Rolling Eyes Embarassed thanks aarf..
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