Puppy Squeeze 009 Development

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Iguleder · #676 Post by **Iguleder** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 11:05

At the moment Woof is running, it's in the package download stage. I already integrated all the goodies we made so far and recompiled 2.6.32.24 with some stuff I missed.

I'm also compiling 2.6.35.7, my netbook needs it.

pemasu · #677 Post by **pemasu** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 11:13

My laptop also benefits from 2.6.35.7 kernel because it detects my eth0 wired lan card automatically, so no need to compile the driver.
It would be nice to have dpup010 with two different kernel choices ??!!

Iguleder · #678 Post by **Iguleder** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 11:52

One kernel is 2.6.32.24, the other can be either 2.6.35.7 or Barry's 2.6.34.6 from Wary. I say we should use the latter for two reasons:
- Barry's additions, like the modem drivers
- Ready nvidia drivers
- Barry know better and if he picked 2.6.34.6, there's a good reason for this
- 2.6.36 is out and still no aufs for it, so we can't use it

EDIT: I guess we'll use 2.6.34.6, I'll compile a 2.6.35.7 kernel with some extra tuning for laptops.

EDIT 2: big success! I built an ISO with my 2.6.35.7, the alsa levels fix works! Everything looks great (using Xfce-basic and the Ubuntu font, 12 pixels). However, mplayer is broken becuse of one library I missed and I'm getting some weird black pixels in a pattern on my Eee.

This laptop-specific kernel uses "ondemand" for CPU frequency scaling so it takes more time to boot, but it saves power and I can tell that the fan is very very very quiet, at least on my Eee. This kernel has wireless and audio power saving enabled by default.

01micko · #679 Post by **01micko** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 14:01

one problem with wary as is to lupu|dpup nvidia drivers is that the path to the xorg drivers is different from 7.3 to 7.5

. That could be worked around by some restructuring but better I think to recompile. Especially since to have true compatibility the kernel needs to be recompiled (as you are doing) against the current gcc, You know what I mean

Cheers

Iguleder · #680 Post by **Iguleder** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 14:13

It's time for someone to make a good kernel that can be used by both Lupu and Squeeze, imho

Compatibility between the two is good, let's take it one step further

#681 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 14:19

Iguleder wrote:It's time for someone to make a good kernel that can be used by both Lupu and Squeeze, imho

Compatibility between the two is good, let's take it one step further

as long as your glibC is the same it shouldn't be all that hard.
ttuuxxx

Iguleder · #682 Post by **Iguleder** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 14:21

It isn't the same, but I don't understand why glibc versions must be identical. As far as I know it doesn't matter, the only thing that does is the version of the kernel glibc was compiled against, that's 2.6.18 in both if I haven't mistaken.

EDIT: another testing build of 010, so far 3 bugs found:
- BootFlash is broken, it won't copy the SFS
- The partition Puppy boots from isn't properly detected so the icon isn't green as in 009
- SNS (for some reason) was unable to connect to wireless networks; I had to connect to a network from the console manually, then it started working

Karl Godt · #683 Post by **Karl Godt** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 15:30

As far as I can see the debian squeeze kernel is the 2.6.32 one.

The README of the kernel source from kernel.org seems to be not much of worth ....

Using make bzImage at 2.6.35.7 finally gave an kernel that started to boot but didn't want to mount ....

I guess its the patches but applying patch -p 2 < KERNELPATCHFILEfromKERNEL-ORG patched but also moved or copied the files two directories up ....

And there are many directories .....

And The kernel.org Patchfile is over 1 million lines long .....

So before adding the three patchfiles you posted, one which is also pretty large,
HOW TO PATCH that the files stay in their dirs ? (is it the patch command (compiled wrong) ?)

I also would like to know what to choose at the make menuconfig to get more than three kernel.ko compiled (default values).
One attempt to 2.6.35.7 even compiled none kernel.ko drivers ....

2.6.36 seems to pretty much the same as 2.6.35

Iguleder · #684 Post by **Iguleder** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 16:00

Uploading deltas to the 010 release candidate, they're here. There are two flavors, 2.6.32.24 (patched to appear as 2.6.32) and 2.6.35.7.

The latter is for i686 (people with ancient hardware won't use it anyway), while the former is for i486. Both are patched with BFS 357, which should improve latency and performance, especially on multi-core machines but also on single-core machines.

In both, wireless power saving is enabled by default but power saving for AC97 and HDA sound cards is disabled because of the click sound it produces. It's there (while most puppies don't have it) but disabled. The power schemes tray icon is now smarter, it also enables or disables it.

The default CPU scaling governor is "performance" but it can be easily changed to "ondemand". Both kernels support up to 8 CPUs and support both SMP and HyperThreading.

There are some bugs here and there - they originate in the new kernels and the new Woof. Barry intends to add bug fixes to Woof until the final release of Wary; that's a good chance for us to declare Puppy Squeeze as "released". We'll have to wait a couple of days after Wary's release for Barry to upload Woof, though.

pemasu · #685 Post by **pemasu** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 17:22

Hmmm. When I get the dpup010 k2.5.35.7 iso md5sum, I can check that my deltaupgrade was succesful.

When booting, searching for puppy files stops for long period and pausing text appears 4 times. Wlan internet connection does not work. And ntfs 3g driver mounts only readonly. Fuse module is missing is the main thing in the error table.

Well... I didnt check anymore because internet connection failed.

Iguleder · #686 Post by **Iguleder** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 17:29

Same here, it takes a very long time to load the block device modules and wireless works only from second attempt. Probably ntfs-3g is broken with this kernel, maybe it's too new.

On 2.6.32.24 I don't have these problems and it works splendidly. For some reason my USB mouse doesn't work ... maybe it's dead.

EDIT: my mouse works.

Brown Mouse · #687 Post by **Brown Mouse** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 17:40

Hi iguleder

Downloaded 010 delta,did an md5 check and installed 010 with the 2.6.32 kernel.

Booted up fine but noticed the 'Resolution and Language setter' brings up network connection config'.
Created savefile,rebooted,greeted by the sfs installer,at which point the mouse pointer froze.
Gave it a second shot with a renamed savefeile,exactly the same issue.

MinHundHettePerro · Sun 24 Oct 2010, 18:24

Hello

!

010-rc1-k2.6.32.24, new clean savefile:

Lost my mouse pointer, got it back through xorgwizard - but, with a black screen. Much more xorgwizardry got both mouse pointer and non-black screen back, but it didn't hold for restart of X

. Also tried boot parameter modeset=0 to no avail. Tried 1280x1024 and 1024x768 in both 24 and 16 bits colourdepths, none was more stable than the other.

"pausing" at boot up - maybe the boot time just feels longer when seeing that, didn't time the boot ups

.

009 and 010beta were both working nicely

.

Cheers

/
MHHP

peebee · #689 Post by **peebee** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 18:59

dpup010 rc-1 k2.6.32 frugal install on HP550 laptop.

Startup - OK
Touchpad config - OK
Powerapplet tray - OK
Wifi via SNS - OK (apart from usual periodic disassociation)
Samba - OK
Remote CUPS printing via smbc: - OK

All OK for me - well done...

The tray power thingy - doesn't have any popup text, doesn't show what is the current setting and has a speelling mistook. Balanced.

Cheers
Peter

Iguleder · #690 Post by **Iguleder** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 19:00

I can see there are changes in some X packages, versions changed. Those introduced many regessions and lots of additional gray hair. I guess we have no choice but to wait for the Debian guys to fix those.

I get some graphics corruption on my PineView ... some weird black pixels in a pattern.

Dammit!

Jim1911 · #691 Post by **Jim1911** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 20:16

Hi Iguleder,

New frugal installion of both rc-1 k2.6.32 and k2.6.35.7. Both appeared to work fine until a reboot was performed to set up a save file. On both, upon reboot with a save file, my usb mouse froze.

I'm sure it's something minor because previous versions have been great.

Cheers,
Jim

Iguleder · #692 Post by **Iguleder** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 20:26

Still shocked to see how messed up it is ... something is terribly wrong with the X drivers and Woof.

I guess we'll have to take the time and let the Debian guys do whatever they do that makes their packages so good

edoc · #693 Post by **edoc** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 20:28

What is the best app to use in dpup 009 to download and save videos from YouTube and elsewhere, please?

I need to share a history-related video clip in a learning environment for young people and the Internet access at the location is unreliable.

Thanks!

Iguleder · #694 Post by **Iguleder** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 20:33

I use file2hd.com for that (it's in the menu!) ... but there's also you2pup.

upnorth · #695 Post by **upnorth** » Sun 24 Oct 2010, 21:14

the 2.6.32.24 version, the ipv4 branch was missing, I think. couldn't load ip_tables or run iptables command.

I ,was connected to net ok though.

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