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BarryK
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Sep 2010, 05:35    Post_subject:  Quirky 1.3 feedback and bug reports
Sub_title: Post good and bad reports here! Solutions welcome!
 

Quirky 1.3-final is released. I built it with the 2.6.33.2 kernel, not the latest.

See the announcement and links on my blog:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01822

To follow progress on Quirky:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewCat=Quirky

There was a 1.3RC forum thread:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60096

Feedback welcome!

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Lobster
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Sep 2010, 05:59    Post_subject:  

This is feedback on the RC but I hope the combination of Flash and Seamonkey is the same in the Final

I can watch streaming multimedia (just watched a BBC documentrary about the BBC) Will now be rebooting into the Final version. For some reason (I believe 64bit 'updates' of Adobe Flash 10.1) were not working in Puppy Lucid 5.1.1, Ubuntu, Squeeze etc. They would cut out at between 6 and 20 minutes.

Quirky is allowing me to watch streaming vids.

Smile Many thanks

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Sep 2010, 08:03    Post_subject:  

Further to my initial reports on 'Barry's Blog"...

I have found that ndiswrapper is far more stable with my wg311v2 (netgear pci wireless, TI chipset) than tempestuous' driver which was, I think, compiled in Lupu, (slightly different kernel compile... that may be the cause IMO, and also NOT included in this quirky, for those concerned)

Also, I have an old TNT nvidia video card which defaults to the vesa driver. While that works fine, I can only get 1024x768 resolution with my old P3 with an old CRT. If I "choose" the 'nv' driver I get 1280x1024.. and acceleration. Is it worth the extra 5 meg to include the proprietary driver? (considering probably well over half of users don't have an nvidia, and another half of those have a compatible nvidia card with the driver, [those numbers are pure speculation!]).

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tronkel


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PostPosted: Wed 22 Sep 2010, 12:10    Post_subject:  

Solid as ever.

I notice a slower boot-up time where the script shows a "pausing" indication in red. This is the point where it is looking for Puppy files. Runs very fast when loaded. Nice and stable - ideal for recommending to friends/clients.

I remember reading something about changes to the way the system searches for Puppy files at boot, but can't remember the details.

There's a lot of new Puppy versions appearing now on an on-going basis, so it's becoming a task in itself trying to test them all. Look at it like this:

Group A is Barry's base versions
Group B is non-Barry official versions e.g. (Puppy 511)
Group C is the Wild West where anything goes (Geeks' Paradise) e.g. Puppy Squeeze.

Group B uses stuff from both Groups A and B

Each of these groups has got prodigious output at the moment. No wonder Joe Public has problems deciding on anything to do with Linux. Other distros are also appearing on the scene thick and fast. Puppy's total output of new stuff is simply ballooning compared to only a short time ago.

Just been trying real Debian Squeeze 64 bit. Nice distro, but not as fast as 32 bit Puppy Squeeze.

So Puppy is still the nippiest, but I wonder if a 64-bit version would make it go even faster.

Can Woof be hooked up to the Debian or Ubuntu 64-bit packages specifically? I doubt if it's that simple though.

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Sep 2010, 12:20    Post_subject:  

tronkel wrote:
I notice a slower boot-up time where the script shows a "pausing" indication in red. This is the point where it is looking for Puppy files.

I'm not seeing that at all. Are you using the pdev1 and psubdir boot arguments?
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Sep 2010, 12:45    Post_subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:

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Are you using the pdev1 and psubdir boot arguments?


Nope. In the case of running any previous Puppy on my normal PC deskdop hardware, I've only seldom had to use boot cheat codes. I normally boot from live CD and then make a pup_save file.

This no show-stopper, but would be interesting to know what has changed.

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Sep 2010, 13:07    Post_subject:  

I believe that Quirky's new init script drills down farther into partitions looking for Puppy files. That might explain the pause.
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Sep 2010, 13:49    Post_subject:  

Interesting this? With all previous Puppies, using my Acer Extensa laptop, intel graphics, if I tried to reduce/increase the screen brightness using the Fn/arrow up.down keys, I had to re-start X to make the changes visible. In 1.3, the brightness just goes up or down in real time (as it should)... cool.
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Sep 2010, 14:44    Post_subject:  

Savefile menu is back Smile
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raffy

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Sep 2010, 16:59    Post_subject: steroids  

This quirky is on steroids! Impressive.

Seamonkey has been very snappy and stable.
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Sep 2010, 20:05    Post_subject:  

tronkel wrote:
I notice a slower boot-up time where the script shows a "pausing" indication in red. This is the point where it is looking for Puppy files. Runs very fast when loaded. Nice and stable - ideal for recommending to friends/clients.


Booting from CD, the init script mounts each hd partition in turn, and looks 2-deep for Puppy files. If they aren't found, it goes through the exercise again, looking 3-deep.

Anyway, the "pause" message that you are getting is interesting. I found when testing the Intel Classmate, booting from USB optical drive, that although /dev/sr0 existed, it failed to mount -- a "sleep 5" then retry fixed it. This code was in earlier Woofs, but this time I have added the "pause" message.

So, you would have got that 5 second pause before, but without the "pause" message.

If the init script did have to drop down to a 3-deep scan, another message in purple text would have appeared.

So, I don't know why the scanning would be any slower in your case. Maybe your assessment is subjective? -- the "watched pot" syndrome? If it really is slower, that is curious and I wonder why.

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Sep 2010, 00:29    Post_subject:  

Fresh frugal install w/ new save file on the old P3 test box.Really no problems.......Gnome MPlayer now plays fullscreen,SeaMonkey is fast and most everything is good.
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Sep 2010, 01:13    Post_subject: Quirky 1.3 ungood ThinkPad R51 with intel 852/855 GM  

Have the iso from day before yesterday at which point I think it was still an RC. Sad to discover that my laptop ThinKPad R51 seems to be out in the cold. With Quirky 1.2 I could choose intel i810 and get a display. All I can get from 1.3 is the cold black hell of KMS darkness. Ungood. That is to say opting for 'intel' is no good and trying vesa is also no good. Too bad, I kind of liked Quirky.
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Sep 2010, 01:26    Post_subject:  

Ethernet auto connected on my first boot - so I was net enabled.
Today it was gone and I had to set it..
Seamonkey and Flash combi still working great.
The time (I think I choose the second option 'utc')
is working OK - many wooflets have problems with providing the right time and I have to check my watch.
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Sep 2010, 03:25    Post_subject: Re: Quirky 1.3 ungood ThinkPad R51 with intel 852/855 GM  

gnomic wrote:
Have the iso from day before yesterday at which point I think it was still an RC. Sad to discover that my laptop ThinKPad R51 seems to be out in the cold. With Quirky 1.2 I could choose intel i810 and get a display. All I can get from 1.3 is the cold black hell of KMS darkness. Ungood. That is to say opting for 'intel' is no good and trying vesa is also no good. Too bad, I kind of liked Quirky.


You mean Wary. Quirky 1.2 did not offer the i810 driver, as the latest Xorg that will support it is Xorg 7.3.

Wary 0.7 has the choice of 'intel' and 'i810' Xorg drivers. The upcoming Wary 0.8 will too.

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