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Wary Puppy 0.9 (090) feedback

#1 Post by BarryK »

Wary Puppy 0.9 has been released, see announcement:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01849

There is another forum thread to discuss the philosophy of Wary:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60657

Anyone interested is invited to download Wary 0.9 and give it a spin, provide reports here...
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#2 Post by James C »

Fresh manual frugal install of Wary 090 (2.6.35.7) on my old P3 test box....733 mhz-256 mb ram w/1gb swap.
On initial boot the sound and internet were working out of the box and no problem setting the screen resolution.
Installed Htop and Firefox (upgraded to 3.6.10 w/ the latest flash).Everything appears to be working fine.



VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 090

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 GMCH [Graphics Memory Controller Hub]
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]

Driver used by Xorg:
intel

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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Processor : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory : 254MB (103MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.09
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 08 Oct 2010 08:16:03 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation

Htop shot is with Firefox open on this forum.
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#3 Post by Billtoo »

I did a full install of 090 kernel 2.6.30.5.
On first boot the wired internet was connected,wireless keyboard and mouse working.
I installed the nvidia pet from the forum by Gray.
# glxgears
45326 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9065.046 FPS
51952 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10390.366 FPS
51978 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10395.437 FPS
85262 frames in 5.0 seconds = 17052.379 FPS
88665 frames in 5.0 seconds = 17732.954 FPS
88693 frames in 5.0 seconds = 17738.519 FPS
88636 frames in 5.0 seconds = 17727.028 FPS
#
OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
Version 3.2.0 NVIDIA 190.53
Direct Rendering Yes
#
Ogle plays dvds full screen,mplayer plays videos at full screen also.

*******************************************************************************

I did a full install of 090 kernel 2.6.35.7 on another partition.
I installed the devx and the kernal_src-2.6.35.7-patched.sfs and I
downloaded the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-256.53.run driver from the nvidia
site.I then exited to the prompt and did "sh NVIDIA-Linux-256.53.run",
it returned an error at one point "/sbin/depmod -aq invalid option"
but it gave me the option to continue which I did.
Unfortunately the driver didn't install so no accelerated graphics.

Ogle plays dvds but not full screen, mplayer plays videos but not
fullscreen.

So, wary 090 with the 2.6.30.5 kernel + the nvidia.pet is working great but without
accelerated graphics the 2.6.35.7 kernel isn't so hot.

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#4 Post by James C »

Wary 090 (2.6.35.7) live pfix=ram on my main Linux box.Correct resolution and working internet on initial boot..........sound was muted.



VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 090

Chip description:
oem: S3 Graphics ProSavage DDR Family BIOS
product: VBE 3.0 Rev 0.0

Driver used by Xorg:
savage

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1002MB (140MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.09
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 08 Oct 2010 10:31:41 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1400x1050 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235


-Version-
Kernel : Linux 2.6.35.7 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Wed Oct 6 12:26:42 GMT-8 2010
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.10.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Puppy Linux 0.09
-Current Session-
Computer Name : puppypc
User Name : root (root)
Home Directory : /root
Desktop Environment : Unknown (Window Manager: JWM)
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#5 Post by 01micko »

I notice a few things in PPM wont download, I mentioned nvidia on the blog.

I got the nvidia driver but it wouldn't work for me, though the previous 195 series drivers did work for this card in other kernels. (I am using the 2.6.35.7 kernel)

I grabbed the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-256.53 from nvidia and compiled it and the card seems to work just fine now.

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 090

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: G98 Board - 5610002u Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution:  Depth 24  Depth: "Display"
or my video test from quickpet ( :lol: )

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For your nVidia card, nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS (rev a1) 
we think the best add on driver is nvidia-173.14.25 or nvidia-256.35. It would be required for some programs and games with high
 graphical content and your desktop might seem a bit more snappy. 
They are available in Quickpet 
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#6 Post by James C »

Wary 090 (2.6.35.7) live pfix=ram on an old P4 off the shelf. Graphics,sound and internet working on initial boot.


VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 090

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: NV18 Board - p119s0nz Chip Rev A4

Driver used by Xorg:
nv

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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Processor : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 1034MB (123MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.09
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 08 Oct 2010 11:54:28 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5


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Kernel : Linux 2.6.35.7 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Wed Oct 6 12:26:42 GMT-8 2010
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.10.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Puppy Linux 0.09
-Current Session-
Computer Name : puppypc
User Name : root (root)
Home Directory : /root
Desktop Environment : Unknown (Window Manager: JWM)

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#7 Post by DaveS »

Wary 09, '35 kernel.
When I try to run xcompmgr for transparency, it reports 'no composite extension' Is this fixable?
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#8 Post by 01micko »

Here's the nvidia driver for k2.6.35.7 packaged. It's the latest 256.59 from the nvidia site.

Works for me and not bad at 15MB. There are details of what cards it is supposed to support.

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re: composite extension

#9 Post by upnorth »

re: composite extension
lol, just noticed the same thing myself. :)

paste this in at the bottom of /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "1"
EndSection

just above the #PuppyHardwareProfile=

This works for 431 and other 4 ver puppies as well. But if you already have an extensions section, you can add it there.

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#10 Post by Roy »

AMD Athlon 64 3500+
Nvidia graphics card and an old 15" CRT

Strangely, a .vob video file refused to play while using Xvesa but plays fine with Vesa. Using 1024x768 24-bit color settings on both. Using 2.6.35.7 kernel.

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#11 Post by 01micko »

There seems to be a bug with pfix=ram.

I am supposedly running pfix=ram but I had previously made a savefile and copied the main sfs to an ext4 partition.

It seemed to load too fast at the 'copying to ram' stage of bootup and I didn't hear the cd drive. I didn't think much of it because I was testing the video driver, then I realised the blue led was on on sda5, so the live cd detected that the sfs was on the drive and loaded that. Ok, not a big pain for me.. perhaps it's a new feature?

The pupmode is definitely 5, so that suggests I'm running live. See screeny.

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openoffice-3.1.1-sfs4.sfs crash

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When I try to open OpenOffice using openoffice-3.1.1-sfs4.sfs on Wary090_kernel2.6.35.7 Wary freezes when the OO splash screen appears.
The only way out is a dirty shutdown.

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#13 Post by Lobster »

Using the later kernel
01micko wrote:I notice a few things in PPM wont download,
Yep could not load the ATI drivers
from any depository

Any plans to include a 'generic' quickpet in Wary - Mick01 is working on this
Is easy package installation bling?

Straight to Ethernet connected
Nathan Desktop wallpaper setter still has a tendency to
stick after a few selections

ogv and asf files do not load into media player if you click on them
like mp4 and other files
(they work play OK)

Sound wizard had to be run
the icon bottom right made lack of driver very clear
sound worked OK once correctly set

All seems running OK including new games

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# report-video 
VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 090

Chip description:
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RV710 01.00

Driver used by Xorg:
vesa

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution:  Depth 24  Depth: "Display"
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#14 Post by BarryK »

Billtoo wrote:I did a full install of 090 kernel 2.6.35.7 on another partition.
I installed the devx and the kernal_src-2.6.35.7-patched.sfs and I
downloaded the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-256.53.run driver from the nvidia
site.I then exited to the prompt and did "sh NVIDIA-Linux-256.53.run",
it returned an error at one point "/sbin/depmod -aq invalid option"
but it gave me the option to continue which I did.
Unfortunately the driver didn't install so no accelerated graphics.
All Woof-built puppies use Busybox depmod, which has been a contentious decision.

However, the full depmod is still there, renamed to 'depmod-FULL'.

So, just rename /sbin/depmod to something else, and rename /sbin/depmod-FULL to /sbin/depmod, and the Nvidia installer will be happy.
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#15 Post by BarryK »

01micko wrote:There seems to be a bug with pfix=ram.

I am supposedly running pfix=ram but I had previously made a savefile and copied the main sfs to an ext4 partition.

It seemed to load too fast at the 'copying to ram' stage of bootup and I didn't hear the cd drive. I didn't think much of it because I was testing the video driver, then I realised the blue led was on on sda5, so the live cd detected that the sfs was on the drive and loaded that. Ok, not a big pain for me.. perhaps it's a new feature?

The pupmode is definitely 5, so that suggests I'm running live. See screeny.

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Hmmm, yes, I could just say it's a new feature. However, when users type in "pfix=ram", that's what they want, not a partition mounted.

Um, assuming that you have 256MB or more of RAM, try this:

pfix=ram,copy

I think that should force the .sfs to copy into a tmpfs in RAM and then the partition will be unmounted.
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#16 Post by tronkel »

Good results so far with this Wary 0.9. It all basically works on this hardware.

Cannot get full-screen video using PupTelly, but this has been a problem on this harware with most recent Puppies other than Puppy 5. WLAN needs several attempts to connect. This is also nothing new and could be related to a dodgy USB connection on the WLAN dongle itself.

To complement this fine new Puppy version, how about a slimmed-down version of the newly announced LibreOffice?

This is being managed by:http://www.documentfoundation.org as an initiative to free the community version from the shackles of Oracle. It's main philosophy is that no non-free extensions will be allowed and that pace of development will be accelerated unhampered by Oracle's priorities. Damn good thing IMHO. Watch this space.
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#17 Post by BarryK »

Lobster wrote:Any plans to include a 'generic' quickpet in Wary - Mick01 is working on this
Is easy package installation bling?
Yeah, a quickpet helper thingy would be most useful to enable people to quickly install the best video driver for their hardware.

01micko's new Nvidia PET for Wary is a good example of that.

We can also have ATI PETs.

I'm going to have a go at creating some special Intel Xorg PETs for more recent video hardware.
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#18 Post by Sage »

No problems with video, old or new kit, but cannot get sound working in 2.6.35.7 nor 2.6.30 (ALC658). [This version of HardInfo is cr*p - it cannot tell me my sound chip designation]. Where is the simple mixer? All the other distros have one, it can't be very big and makes checking problem sound issues so much easier.
35.7 also has SM set to offline as default, 30.? is OK.

Otherwise quite speedy. Can't wait for the smart guys to offer .pets for decent browsers!
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#19 Post by 01micko »

NOTE: After creating a savefile SNS worked flawlessly, see post below
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ugh!

SNS and Dougal's network wizard both failed me on my old P3 with Acx card. This time ndiswrapper loaded just fine, but it is raining here, all the doors are shut on the house (I'm in the shed) and consequently I am getting a weaker than usual signal, BUT, with tempestuous' simple command line instructions, which I learnt awhile ago didn't fail me, so there is a bug, and it occurs on the second loop when we are testing for an 'open' key.. (which is what my wep is).. it seems from the log that the essid is forgotten because it says "essid off/any"

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Information about this interface:
 Interface: wlan0  Driver: ndiswrapper  Bus: pci  MacAddress: 00:09:5B:BA:43:F8
 Description: MS Windows driver 'wg311v2' 
 
STEP1a: ifconfig wlan0 up
STEP1b: iwlist wlan0 scan
          Cell 01 - Address: 00:15:6D:54:4E:80
                    ESSID:"MyPort Hotspot Southport"
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b
                    Mode:Managed
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1)
                    Quality:35/100  Signal level:-73 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
                    Encryption key:off
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s
                    Extra:bcn_int=100
                    Extra:atim=0
          Cell 02 - Address: 00:1D:0F:F8:38:26
                    ESSID:"TP-LINK"
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b
                    Mode:Managed
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality:23/100  Signal level:-81 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
                    Encryption key:on
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
                              9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
                              48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Extra:bcn_int=100
                    Extra:atim=0
          Cell 03 - Address: C0:3F:0E:65:24:A0
                    ESSID:"OPTUSA65249E"
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b
                    Mode:Managed
                    Frequency:2.442 GHz (Channel 7)
                    Quality:31/100  Signal level:-76 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
                    Encryption key:on
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
                              9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
                              48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Extra:bcn_int=100
                    Extra:atim=0
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
          Cell 04 - Address: 00:1F:33:88:95:94
                    ESSID:"OPTUSA889594"
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b
                    Mode:Managed
                    Frequency:2.442 GHz (Channel 7)
                    Quality:23/100  Signal level:-81 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
                    Encryption key:on
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 22 Mb/s
                              6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s
                              36 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Extra:bcn_int=100
                    Extra:atim=0
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
          Cell 05 - Address: 00:24:B2:7B:70:CE
                    ESSID:"Blaste"
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b
                    Mode:Managed
                    Frequency:2.452 GHz (Channel 9)
                    Quality:37/100  Signal level:-72 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
                    Encryption key:on
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
                              9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
                              48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Extra:bcn_int=100
                    Extra:atim=0
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
          Cell 06 - Address: 00:22:B0:F3:3B:06
                    ESSID:"DLINK"
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b
                    Mode:Managed
                    Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
                    Quality:20/100  Signal level:-83 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
                    Encryption key:on
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 22 Mb/s
                              6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s
                              36 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Extra:bcn_int=200
                    Extra:atim=0
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
          Cell 07 - Address: 00:24:D2:72:7D:32
                    ESSID:"RTA1046VW"
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b
                    Mode:Managed
                    Frequency:2.462 GHz (Channel 11)
                    Quality:18/100  Signal level:-84 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm
                    Encryption key:on
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
                              9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
                              48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Extra:bcn_int=100
                    Extra:atim=0
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
STEP1c: ifconfig wlan0 down
STEP2: iwconfig wlan0 mode managed
STEP3: iwconfig wlan0 channel 6
STEP4: iwconfig wlan0 essid "TP-LINK"
STEP5: iwconfig wlan0 key restricted XXXXXXXXXX
STEP5a: ifconfig wlan0 up

ERROR, TIMEOUT. Have not got an Access Point.
Result of 'iwconfig wlan0':
wlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:off/any  
          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated   
          Bit Rate:54 Mb/s   Tx-Power:10 dBm   Sensitivity=0/3  
          RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
          Encryption key:XXXX-XXXX-XX   Security mode:restricted
          Power Management:off
          Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0


STEP5: iwconfig wlan0 key open XXXXXXXXXX
STEP5a: ifconfig wlan0 up

ERROR, TIMEOUT. Have not got an Access Point.
Result of 'iwconfig wlan0':
wlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:off/any  
          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated   
          Bit Rate:54 Mb/s   Tx-Power:10 dBm   Sensitivity=0/3  
          RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
          Encryption key:XXXX-XXXX-XX   Security mode:open
          Power Management:off
          Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0


 
*********************************************************
LAST 10 LINES of /var/log/messages:
Oct  9 19:07:29 puppypc local0.err dhcpcd[2340]: wlan0: timed out
Oct  9 19:07:29 puppypc local0.info dhcpcd[2340]: wlan0: trying to use old lease in `/var/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-wlan0.info'
Oct  9 19:07:29 puppypc local0.err dhcpcd[2340]: wlan0: lease information file `/var/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-wlan0.info' does not exist
Oct  9 19:07:29 puppypc local0.info dhcpcd[2340]: wlan0: probing for an IPV4LL address
Oct  9 19:07:30 puppypc local0.warn dhcpcd[2340]: wlan0: using IPV4LL address 169.254.218.209
Oct  9 19:07:30 puppypc local0.info dhcpcd[2340]: wlan0: adding IP address 169.254.218.209/16
Oct  9 19:07:30 puppypc local0.info dhcpcd[2340]: wlan0: exiting
Oct  9 19:07:50 puppypc local0.info dhcpcd[2689]: wlan0: received SIGTERM, stopping
Oct  9 19:07:50 puppypc local0.info dhcpcd[2689]: wlan0: removing IP address 169.254.218.209/16
Oct  9 19:07:50 puppypc local0.info dhcpcd[2689]: wlan0: exiting
Just a thought.. would it pay to echo the essid to a tmp file and then retrieve it on each loop? May slow things by a fraction but should be more reliable. Then of course delete the tmp file once we're connected.

Also, can't get sound on my sblive vibralux.. but I haven't tried too hard yet.. the mixer shows muted even when I adjust it, alsa mixer appears ok. I might install retrovol to see if that works (may have to compile).

Now to compile the OLD nvidia :wink: (BTW, still with k2.6.35.7)

Cheers

EDIT.. woops, missed some XX's
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#20 Post by tronkel »

I'm also having sound problems with the later kernel.

While attempting to configure sound using the alsa wizard, a warning message on a yellow background appears (too fast to read fully) saying something about depmod-full.

There is also a warning about sound in the initial boot console text output.
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