Wary Puppy 0.9 (090) feedback

[L18L]

downloaded, bootet from grub

surprise
a right-click on the right end of tray shows that
internationalisation has startet now!

CONGRATULATIONS

bugs wanted?
GMT-1 is wrong, must be GMT+1

[DaveS]

re: composite extension
lol, just noticed the same thing myself.

paste this in at the bottom of /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "1"
EndSection

just above the #PuppyHardwareProfile=

This works for 431 and other 4 ver puppies as well. But if you already have an extensions section, you can add it there.

Damn... so simple /when you know how/ Thanks.

[peebee]

Wary 090 K2.6.30.5 contains the old 2.1.60 versions of agrmodem & agrserial that don't work.

Richard (rerwin) has published the up-to-date 2.1.80 versions for K2.6.30.5 here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 149#456585

I've tested the agrsm-11c11040-2.1.80~20091225-k2.6.30.5.pet however these give modprobe errors with wary090 (they work ok on pup431 k2.6.30.5):

Code: Select all

Oct 10 16:39:01 puppypc user.warn kernel: agrmodem: disagrees about version of symbol snd_hda_codec_read
Oct 10 16:39:01 puppypc user.warn kernel: agrmodem: Unknown symbol snd_hda_codec_read
Oct 10 16:39:01 puppypc user.warn kernel: agrmodem: disagrees about version of symbol snd_hda_codec_write
Oct 10 16:39:01 puppypc user.warn kernel: agrmodem: Unknown symbol snd_hda_codec_write

Cheers
Peter

[adi]

now video is almost ok (some small arrangements), the sound is marked with x but it's still on. network is working only with "simple network setup". skype static does not make any from microphone (as all linux distributions i have tested on this no name pc). the brower moves very slowly.

[DaveS]

Maybe no dbus is a poor choice? It makes it hard to add Firefox or upgrade Seamonkey.

[adi]

no sound with skype

-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.13GHz
Memory : 1034MB (169MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0,09
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sb 09 oct 2010 17:44:46 +0300
-Display-
Resolution : 1280x1024 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : CMI8738-MC6 - C-Media CMI8738
-Input Devices-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse
Power Button
Power Button
PC Speaker
-Printers (CUPS)-
CUPS-PDF : <i>Default</i>
-SCSI Disks-
ATA SAMSUNG SP40A2H
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B
Brother DCP-115C

[James C]

Maybe no dbus is a poor choice? It makes it hard to add Firefox or upgrade Seamonkey.

All I did to install Firefox was install Wolf Pup's pet from
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 504#207504

Auto-updated to 3.6.10 and added the latest Flash......works fine.Nothing else added.Was expecting to have to add dbus but working fine without doing so.

[DaveS]

Maybe no dbus is a poor choice? It makes it hard to add Firefox or upgrade Seamonkey.

All I did to install Firefox was install Wolf Pup's pet from
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 504#207504

Auto-updated to 3.6.10 and added the latest Flash......works fine.Nothing else added.Was expecting to have to add dbus but working fine without doing so.

My guess is dbus is included in that .pet or that Firefox is compiled in such a way as not to need it. Certainly Seamonkey 2.1b complained and would not load.
Search to see if you now have dbus?

[irishrm]

Not being a regular poster I hope nobody minds me sticking my oar in.
I just want to say that I had the same experience as a previous poster when attempting to open OO the computer froze and I had to do a hard re-boot. Very happy with everything else I've tried so far. A great addition to the puppy family-Irishrm.

[James C]

Maybe no dbus is a poor choice? It makes it hard to add Firefox or upgrade Seamonkey.

All I did to install Firefox was install Wolf Pup's pet from
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 504#207504

Auto-updated to 3.6.10 and added the latest Flash......works fine.Nothing else added.Was expecting to have to add dbus but working fine without doing so.

My guess is dbus is included in that .pet or that Firefox is compiled in such a way as not to need it. Certainly Seamonkey 2.1b complained and would not load.
Search to see if you now have dbus?

Guess so.Good catch.

[Billtoo]

Maybe no dbus is a poor choice? It makes it hard to add Firefox or upgrade Seamonkey.

I compiled dbus-1.4.0.tar.gz + dbus-glib-0.88.tar.gz which allowed me
to compile seamonkey-2.0.8.source.tar.bz2.
Updating from within seamonkey-2.0.7 (if it worked) would have been easier but not as much fun.

[01micko]

Any plans to include a 'generic' quickpet in Wary - Mick01 is working on this
Is easy package installation bling?

Yeah, a quickpet helper thingy would be most useful to enable people to quickly install the best video driver for their hardware.

01micko's new Nvidia PET for Wary is a good example of that.

We can also have ATI PETs.

I'm going to have a go at creating some special Intel Xorg PETs for more recent video hardware.

Well, the first thing most users change is the browser..(re DaveS, James C and Firefox, Sage and Opera) offering at least browsers and video drivers in a 'quickpet' style would be advantageous. Dependencies must be met too, and since Wary has no dbus (which Firefox needs and I think Opera and Chrome) I would need to add functionality for that.

Currently Quickpet now reads the "Packages-puppy-*-official" file in ~/.packages so it can be used in any Puppy. I am working on using included icons from /usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons to trim the package. Also streamlining the code and working out any bugs. So far it works in Wary, without Lupu branding too. It should work fine in Quirky, Spup and Dpup.

Quickpet is also doing a free-space check and will refuse to download if you haven't got at least 40MB free after installation

What I need to do is make a config for the 'Benevolent Dictator' to edit so that he/she can put in as much or as little as they like. Anyway, this belongs in it's own thread! Soon...

Cheers

[yarddog]

when start gnumeric from icon and attempt to format cells, program immediately closes

when open gnumeric from command line and attempt to format cells
receive
Segmentation fault

have seen this is earlier versions - believe something to do with goffice
missing applications

have installed
puppy browser - personal favorite for viewing swf files
wbar
sakura terminal
puppy control panel (pcp2)
these are working
yarddog

[rjbrewer]

A few observations; mostly full installs. 2.6.35.7

Ogle DVD player plays the dvds' that mplayer can't handle.
The video clarity and stability is better than any media player I've
tried before.

I replaced 2.07 Seamonkey with 1.1.18 Seamonkey in order to have
mms and rtsp streams. Works great and reduces size by 45mb.
(uncompressed).
edit; size remains basically about the same after adding 1.1.18.

The Dell 700m (intel855gm graphics) works fine by choosing i810 in
xorg setup; no problems with the ati or via chips on the older boxes.

Added htop and cpu-temp (rcrsn51).

Right clicking drive icons pops up menu instead of drive info; need
to restart x to make it work.
If I mount sda1 (Xp), the blue ball won't go away when I unmount it.

Overall, this is a good 4.3.1 replacement.
Please don't let it become a lupu-luci clone.

[broomdodger]

xrdb -query
wary090 fails
quirky130 ok

Well... all of xrdb fails in wary090

[Terryphi]

When I try to open OpenOffice using openoffice-3.1.1-sfs4.sfs on Wary090_kernel2.6.35.7 Wary freezes when the OO splash screen appears.
The only way out is a dirty shutdown.

I see that the OpenOffice crash has been confirmed by another user. I had assumed that it was caused by the lack of dbus in Wary 090. I added the 4 dbus* packages from the Quirky repository (http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... es-quirky/ .) This had no effect and OO still crashed and froze Wary requiring a dirty shutdown.

So, could it be a recurrence of the OO crash reported and discussed in the Quirky 010 feedback thread? :

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=53658

[panda_watch]

Everything looks brilliant in this release. It is the first of the new releases (Quirky, Slackpup, Wary 0.6, Lucid) to correctly load my wifi internet connection, remember it on reboot, and not drop out regularly. for no reason.

I get the following error message when I try to use flSynclient:

"Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?"

After I click okay it then ends the program. Anyone else getting this error?

[Sage]

Later on sound... obmixer will not uncheck the mute checkbox on this hardware (old sblive vibralux), so I installed retrovol from quirky in PPM and deleted obmixer_tray from ~/Startup and all is well.

Sadly, this is a personal triumph, not a permanent fix, which will need a BK permanent revision. Have managed to get sound working on some machines now but cannot find the mixer?

Starting a DVD is tortuous. Eventually, it worked but no idea how. Most distros now start CD/DVD playback automatically when the disc is inserted.

SM plays its usual sillyB s, although when it does work it's reasonably fast - just arcane, and counter-intuitive, etc. Continues to undermine some very clever coding.

Whatever happened to flash booting, Menuet and MeanPup ?

BK blog seems to be down this morning(UK)/evening(Au).

[Sage]

01m:

Well, the first thing most users change is the browser...

Very highly rated, but maybe not available in linux compiled format yet(???), is Iron, the version of Chrome with all the Google nonsense (and bloat) stripped out of it.
If I were a coder, which I am not, this might be a fertile project for my effort, esp. to eliminate my pet (sorry for the pun) hate that constantly drags this dog into the dust.
There is enough talent around here to produce a .pet Iron in short order.

[01micko]

Sage

Here is a pet prepared for lucid, not compiled in lucid, it was a static compile by the SRWare mob.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -Lucid.pet (it's fairly large at 25M )

It may work in Wary, I can't test it right now, can later.

Note: It wont work on P3 or older Athlons, so it isn't really for old machines.

Cheers