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shinobar


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PostPosted: Sat 01 Jan 2011, 00:37    Post_subject: Re: "running with RAM only mode"?  

lee321987 wrote:
In top post you say, "Install on any Puppy-4.x/5.x running with RAM only mode". Does that mean that if I don't "copy to ram" at boot-up that I can't use this?

You can install the pupsaveconfig on your current Puppy.
RAM only mode is needed for precise test.

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Jan 2011, 19:29    Post_subject: test in wary5 japanese version  

I tested pupsaveconfig in wary-500j02.iso
and it worked well . I tried no encryption and light encrytion and 'Legacy'.
They all worked as expected.

There was one odd bug. I filled in the details in the opening screen
then clicked button. I then chose American English.
The screen went entirely black. I clicked on it. and it came back
with the trial keyboard.

That's odd . I've never had pupsaveconfig do that before.
It wasn't an accident since it has happened about 5 times now.

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I spotted a couple of errors with the wording in this version.

For instance,

You copy a file to a hard drive.
You put a file on a hard drive.
The preposition is important.
Here's some screenshots with red ink corrections

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-54ba3caf.html

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Jan 2011, 20:19    Post_subject: Re: test in wary5 japanese version  

don570 wrote:
There was one odd bug. I filled in the details in the opening screen
then clicked button. I then chose American English.
The screen went entirely black. I clicked on it. and it came back
with the trial keyboard.

It is not the issue of the pupsaveconfig but of the firstrun(Country Settings).
When you change the timezone, the screen once goes black and comes back after a while. I don't know why but It may occur with Puppy-4.x and Wary.
EDIT: not right. It can be Wary only. The Puplite, based on Puppy-4.2, doesn't occur. Fluppy-010 also doesn't... Question
I may need to put some notice in the firstrun...

Thanks the correction, don.

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Jan 2011, 20:40    Post_subject: mistake  

Yes. I made a mistake. I should have called the app 'FIrstRun'
when I got the strange blackscreen.

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Jan 2011, 23:33    Post_subject: Re: test in wary5 japanese version  

shinobar wrote:
don570 wrote:
There was one odd bug. I filled in the details in the opening screen
then clicked button. I then chose American English.
The screen went entirely black. I clicked on it. and it came back
with the trial keyboard.

It is not the issue of the pupsaveconfig but of the firstrun(Country Settings).
When you change the timezone, the screen once goes black and comes back after a while. I don't know why but It may occur with Puppy-4.x and Wary.
EDIT: not right. It can be Wary only. The Puplite, based on Puppy-4.2, doesn't occur. Fluppy-010 also doesn't... Question
I may need to put some notice in the firstrun...

Thanks the correction, don.


Running xrandr causes this behavior. Mostly with Xorg 7.3. Newer versions of xorg don't have this problem as bad.
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Jan 2011, 23:41    Post_subject:  

I have a slight problem on my machine with two monitors. Firstrun crashes before it gets to the part where it disables itself. Causing it to run at every boot.


Code:
+ for W in '$(echo "$XRESOELINES"| grep "^ $NEWDIM")'
+ '[' 1680x1050 = '' ']'
++ echo 1680x1050
++ cut -d. -f1
+ N=1680x1050
./firstrun: line 578: 1680x1050: value too great for base (error token is "1680x1050")
./firstrun: line 579: 16965 Terminated              gtkdialog3 -p DIALOG -c >/dev/null


Edit: oops I just noticed this is the wrong thread for this. Sorry. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jan 2011, 19:28    Post_subject:  

Dutch translation for PupSaveConfig Smile
pupsaveconfig-nl.tar.gz
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Filename  pupsaveconfig-nl.tar.gz 
Filesize  10.55 KB 
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JaDy

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Jan 2011, 11:15    Post_subject:  

MultisessionFlash

I'd like to have an option to have file changes stored on the hard disk, not in RAM.
And then, upon shutdown (and using the SAVE button),
save the changes to USB flash memory in a manner similar to multi-session DVD.
Furthermore, a utility to combine all the session saves into a single file,
and to recover file changes in the event of a system crash.

If a swap file or partition is used then storing file changes on hard disk is virtual.
But if system crashes it would be nice to have file changes on hard disk for recovery.

I run LUPU511 from USB flash memory stick with lupusave on the stick.
I turned off the periodic save; save on shutdown is good enough.
I have a swap file on the hard disk.

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Jan 2011, 09:30    Post_subject: pupsaveconfig-1.9.8  

Update pupsaveconfig-1.9.8.pet (21 Jan 2011).
  • ext3 as the default, notebook
  • messages correction thanks to don570,
  • precaution: remove pupsave.conf at shutdown(rc.shutdown)
  • fix again avoid invalid shutdown when no save to flash(rc.shutdown)
  • includes NLS, German(L18L), Japanese(shinobar), Dutch(Bert) and Russian(rodin.s).

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Feb 2011, 15:34    Post_subject: german version  

I checked pupsaveconfig in Wary 06 Multilingual.
The German version had a couple of spelling errors.

As well , the word 'Minus' is used instead of 'hyphen'
which is properly translated 'der Bindestrich'



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PostPosted: Sun 06 Feb 2011, 03:52    Post_subject: PupsaveConfig-1.9.9  

don570 wrote:
I checked pupsaveconfig in Wary 06 Multilingual.
The German version had a couple of spelling errors.

Thanks, don.

Updated: PupsaveConfig-1.9.9
# v1.9.9d 6feb11: rfkill, performance.sh, remove /mnt/*mnt/+..(rc.shutdown), message on progressbar, sort the probepart
/etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown at line 70-
Code:
# 5feb11: some stuff for fluppy
which rfkill &>/dev/null && rfkill unblock all
[ -x  /etc/acpi/performance.sh ] && /etc/acpi/performance.sh

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Feb 2011, 00:57    Post_subject:  

The first time I run it, it doesn't probe all the devices. The only saving option is the boot media. It will probe the devices if I click the back button though.

Is this a bug or a feature? It seems confusing.
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Feb 2011, 01:31    Post_subject: probing device  

jemimah wrote:
The first time I run it, it doesn't probe all the devices. The only saving option is the boot media. It will probe the devices if I click the back button though.

Is this a bug or a feature? It seems confusing.

It is intended. The pupsave at the same place of the boot medium is recommended i think.
For whom want to save on another media, I left the message on the back button.
If you boot from CD, all the devices are scanned from the first time.

This feature was old standard of Puppy. But it is recently modified. Wary-500 lists up all the devices.
It maybe convenient for someone, but can be confusing for the beginners, i suppose.

One example: I make frugal install on sda2, the Windows 7 system partition.
The Wary-500 lists up all the partition and the sda1 as the default, but the sda1 is a small 100MB partition for the boot stuff of Windows 7.

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Feb 2011, 12:46    Post_subject:
Sub_title: 1st look
 

pupsaveconfig-1.9.9 (on p412, PULP 3 puplet - bootdisc+savefile on usb stick)

Firstly a few details/opinions
1) on the drives-selection page, dividers or separators might be helpful - the paired lines need to be obviously paired

2) on the folder/file-name page - folder-name should work on any pup that can 'look' beyond the base dir, possibly leave it blank but a pre-done 'hint' is ok too

3) a tabbed interface might be overlooked, but it does get away from the sequential tyranny. A choice of the smallest 32 mb would help if things are tight on a usb stick (or for testing). Not sure, but I think with a usb save the main sfs from the CD was automatically copied on 1st run.

4) At the actual save/reboot/poweroff, perhaps the wording on the "save" button could be changed to 'hold' or 'redo', I can see someone going "Sure, save my session" and getting confused with another config run.

..and next-to-finally it does not seem to have solved my particular issue (this topic) in regard to making it to a successful 2nd boot with a bootdisc/savefile on usb combo (but I finally remembered the "puppy ..." startcode Embarassed ).

5) the 60 second timer seems a good idea (progress bar a nice touch) on the save/nosave dialogue and a default nosave even better for when things might go fairly wrong, but it still needs set to zero in that eventmanager tab if one prefers no periodic saves (easy enough to remember to do manually and that could be considered a user preference, learning experience or further development)

Good utility, shinobar and thanks - I may need to add your optical drive tweak to pulp as well (ack, tray opens/closes too quickly sometimes in certain situations - not good to force-hold the mechanism open Evil or Very Mad ).

small detail Confused pupsaveconfig-1.9.9.pet didn't update the /usr/share/doc/index.html in the 'available in menu' and 'packages contained in' fieldboxes, indeed the remnant in / was a rather generic-named "pet.specs" file Neutral, dunno if it makes any difference after it's in, but I renamed it to full name anyway (the .packages and rootmenu items are fine)
---addenda to the last-mentioned immediately ^ above---
It does update the relevant pages after a reboot and clears the remnant in / like a well-trained pet should Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 06 May 2011, 06:23    Post_subject:  

1. This was the method I was using previously.
Notice that I edited the ISO file used to burn the CD, such that it treats a lupusave on an internal HDD as though it is a lupusave on a Flash Drive.

2. I decided to begin anew to make a lupusave [for Lupu-525] on a partition on an internal HDD.
This gave the opportunity to use Pupsaveconfig-1.9.9 to make the new lupusave.

3. It was proving difficult to use at 1st, but after a few attempts it "just worked".
Don't know what I was doing wrong.
Now working well as follows:
[With a lupusave on an internal HDD]
(a) Doesn't auto-save during the session, but I can choose to save manually at any handy point in time.
(b) Offers the opportunity "to save or not to save" at shut-down or reboot.

NEEDED
4.
(a) I'd like to be able to make "No save..." the default, with a configurable timeout period [5 seconds?]

(b) I'd like to be able to configure that the CD is not ejected at power-off.

5. Thank you SO MUCH for this program; I LOVE that Puppy has the ability to do this. Very Happy Cool
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