test results for alpha puppy2

[PeterSieg]

Hi, within qemu environment it is a mess!

Problem 1.
Scanning soundcard happens just before x starts. If no soundcards found,
asks to probe legacy.. if said no, continues to start x..

But if then changed resolution from 640x480 to say 800x600, again script
goes to scanning soundcard again...

Problem 2.
The incompatibilities between qemu and jwm seem to be worse than ever!
After x is up, you MUST wait app. 25-35 seconds on a 2,5GHz PC, until x
is workable.. if you do anything before, PC (just pc inside qemu!) locks up!

Problem 3.
Shutdown, ask to save settings in pup_save.3fs, have selected yes.. pc locked?!

PS

[Lobster]

glad you got it working (sort of) - my first download was faulty
- trying again now

mirroring and testers required
read the developers news page
if you have a mirror put it on the wiki page

the puppy2 page can also be updated on the wiki

**Alpha 2 Released** - check developers and all News channels . . . 13 Jan 2006
http://www.puppylinux.com/news.htm

[PeterSieg]

Hi, 2 more things..

I would like to have puppy2 asking a dhcp server for ip address and default gateway (and nameserver?). Since this is a very likely setup with dsl + router, that would make puppy2 work right away without having to go though network config wizard. Also most live-cd's are doing it so nowadays..

And I like the new background!

PS

[BarryK]

Hi, within qemu environment it is a mess!

Problem 1.
Scanning soundcard happens just before x starts. If no soundcards found,
asks to probe legacy.. if said no, continues to start x..

But if then changed resolution from 640x480 to say 800x600, again script
goes to scanning soundcard again...

Problem 2.
The incompatibilities between qemu and jwm seem to be worse than ever!
After x is up, you MUST wait app. 25-35 seconds on a 2,5GHz PC, until x
is workable.. if you do anything before, PC (just pc inside qemu!) locks up!

Problem 3.
Shutdown, ask to save settings in pup_save.3fs, have selected yes.. pc locked?!

PS

Ha ha, I never thought about what happens if alsaconf script fails to find a soundcard for your PC. The way it currently works, is it writes to /etc/modules.conf, then /usr/X11R6/bin/xwin checks modules.conf and if it sees alsaconf has written to it then doesn't run alsaconf again.

Problem 2, I don't know what to do about.

Problem 3, you'll have to examine the shutdown script, /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown, find out where the hanging is occurring.

[Lobster]

OK got a working version - gonna see if i can boot on another computer - just used the universal installer onto USB boy that was fast we can crank these out by the busload . . .

ALSA worked on initial use
then I reran installer and it stopped - no sound bars on the volume mixer



Update:
OK the Universal installer layout andwizard is good (but it did not work on both the stardard USB and take everything over Ext3 - not sure why) - Blinky seems OK

The Universal installer did not find some scripts to copy from the CD to the USB

Also MUT recognised it once and then not
and Barry generic Mut (forgot name) did not recognise Sda: at all

Sda: (kangeroo) was recognised on the initial boot up

JWM seems OK
Seamonkey seems OK

. . . just providing impressions as they happen- more testers required

Want to read the details of Puppy 2 again

Wiki News page and Puppy 2 page and wiki intro page updated - needs formatting . . .

I am now gonna save on HD (so do not have to add settings

BFN

[PeterSieg]

Hi,

this is the result of powering puppy2 off vmvare 4.5:
(not any other puppy version has that kind of problems before)



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I booted within qemu again, exitied X to prompt and wanted to check rc.shutdown... but system seems to lock up after exiting x..?

PS

[cncuser_]

where can i find this alpha puppy2 ?

[Lobster]

http://www.pupweb.org/test/

[cncuser_]

thanks lobster

[Leon]

I tried to boot Puppy2alpha on Win98SE from the hard disk using Grub.

Here is my menu.lst for booting Puppy 1.0.7 that works fine:

default 0
timeout 0
title Puppy-1.0.7
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram ramdisk_size=14000 PFILE=pup001-none-262144
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/image.gz
boot

I tried to boot Puppy2alpha using this settings:

default 0
timeout 0
title Puppy-2.0.0a
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram PFILE=pup_save.3fs-none-262144
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd.gz
boot

Boot process stopped with Kernel panic.

Then I tried booting from CD and it went fine. On shutdown I chosed saving to pup_save.3fs on my hard disk. After reboot the booting process stopped at system prompt. I typed xwin and X loaded with settings saved at the last session.

Then I tried to boot with Grub again. Boot process stopped. Here are few last messagess from the screen:

/sbin/init: 402 : probedisk: not found
TEST PUPMODE=9 PUPSAVE=vfat, hda1, /pup_sav.3fs
ERROR, cannot find Puppy on idehd boot media
PMODE=9 PDEV1=
Kernel panic: Attempt to kill init!

The startup process is much longer then when booting 1.0.7, but fortunately Puppy2alpha seems to work faster then 1.0.7.

ALSA works fine.

A picture of Puppy on the desktop is very nice.

JWM 1.4 is still buggy. Applications windows do not want to resize to the edges of the screen, when Maximize button is clicked.
I wrote about this problems on JWM forum:
http://24.254.249.181:443/board/viewtop ... b811ec5550

[BarryK]

I tried to boot Puppy2alpha on Win98SE from the hard disk using Grub.

Here is my menu.lst for booting Puppy 1.0.7 that works fine:

default 0
timeout 0
title Puppy-1.0.7
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram ramdisk_size=14000 PFILE=pup001-none-262144
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/image.gz
boot

I tried to boot Puppy2alpha using this settings:

default 0
timeout 0
title Puppy-2.0.0a
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram PFILE=pup_save.3fs-none-262144
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd.gz
boot

Boot process stopped with Kernel panic.

Then I tried booting from CD and it went fine. On shutdown I chosed saving to pup_save.3fs on my hard disk. After reboot the booting process stopped at system prompt. I typed xwin and X loaded with settings saved at the last session.

Then I tried to boot with Grub again. Boot process stopped. Here are few last messagess from the screen:

/sbin/init: 402 : probedisk: not found
TEST PUPMODE=9 PUPSAVE=vfat, hda1, /pup_sav.3fs
ERROR, cannot find Puppy on idehd boot media
PMODE=9 PDEV1=
Kernel panic: Attempt to kill init!

The startup process is much longer then when booting 1.0.7, but fortunately Puppy2alpha seems to work faster then 1.0.7.

ALSA works fine.

A picture of Puppy on the desktop is very nice.

JWM 1.4 is still buggy. Applications windows do not want to resize to the edges of the screen, when Maximize button is clicked.
I wrote about this problems on JWM forum:
http://24.254.249.181:443/board/viewtop ... b811ec5550

leon,
PFILE is no longer used. Replace it with "PMEDIA=idehd"

[BarryK]

Hi,

this is the result of powering puppy2 off vmvare 4.5:
(not any other puppy version has that kind of problems before)



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I booted within qemu again, exitied X to prompt and wanted to check rc.shutdown... but system seems to lock up after exiting x..?

PS

Peter,
I'm not familiar with vmware or qemu. Can you have an emulated hard drive partition? I was thinking, if a hard drive option2 (full) install can be done to this "partition", then there is no longer any need for initrd.gz and the whole thing is simpler.
No ramdisk either. You just boot directly to the "partition".

[Leon]

leon,
PFILE is no longer used. Replace it with "PMEDIA=idehd"

Barry,
Thank you, it works now.

I noticed that my enhanced font rendering:
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=4437
do not want to work in Puppy2Alpha any more.

I copied libfreetype.so.6.3.8 file with bytecode interpreter for TrueType hinting enabled to /usr/lib.
Then made symlinks:
cd /usr/lib
ln -fs libfreetype.so.6.3.8 libfreetype.so.6
ln -fs libfreetype.so.6.3.8 libfreetype.so
Then replaced /etc/fonts/local.conf with my modified local.conf.

It worked in Puppy 1.0.7 in both Xvesa and Xorg modes. There was only a problem with Abiword when Puppy works in Xorg mode.

Can you explain what is the cause and make it available again?

[costal martignier]

hmmm,

- why there are no more bootoptions for select from the cd bootup???
(my laptop only works with acpi=off)

- building carddatabase and searching for soundcard goes really loooooong
(what puppy does when it says "building card database" on bootup?

- puppy2 is mutch slower for working on my old laptop and sucks on qemu (no problem with 1.07)

- saving personal data does not work



regards
costal[/img]

[tronkel]

Just booted up Puppy2 Alpha on my old 64MB RAM 300MHz Cyrix. Basically it runs very well on this - maybe even better than 1.07 did. Alsa is very good too.

A few probs:

XORG setup wizard ran OK for initial configuration but somehow then lost the ability to start X directly from boot-up. Typing XWIN at the prompt only seems to work when it feels like it and on failure then offers to run the XORG wizard again. Typing "startx" always seems to work ok though.

Startup script will not mount my home drive automatically (hda2 on this machine). Does mount manually from a terminal OK though.

Yes the Puppy seems to get ever more intelligent with every new release. You can see it in the eyes of the new desktop puppy too. They used to look so sweet and innocent during the era of the version 1.X seriies. Now they betray a scary intelligence (IQ of 500+ maybe) similar to a Rottweiler on steroids staring out of the still as as yet puppy-like head! - but it's well on the way to being another great episode in the saga of Puppy Linux folks!

Puppy V1 face -> Puppy V2 face ->

[flavour]

ok, booted up fine...like the ALSA promise from the new wizard

Seamonkey seems faster than Mozilla was for some reason.

My Dotpups all install fine, however JRE fails to work.
the /usr/lib/mozilla symlink means that the files are installed to the correct location & about:plugins shows them as there, however the Java applets don't download.
Was Seamonkey compile without oji support?

Is there a devx.sfs we can play with?
- I want to compile Ekiga (been waiting for ALSA)

F

[BarryK]

hmmm,

- why there are no more bootoptions for select from the cd bootup???
(my laptop only works with acpi=off)

- building carddatabase and searching for soundcard goes really loooooong
(what puppy does when it says "building card database" on bootup?

- puppy2 is mutch slower for working on my old laptop and sucks on qemu (no problem with 1.07)

- saving personal data does not work



regards
costal[/img]

costal,
I had hoped to avoid using a boot menu. Your problem is the live-CD, where you can't edit the isolinux.cfg file.
A thought, if we always booted the live-CD with acpi=off, I wonder if it
would work on all PCs, especially modern ones with mature acpi-enabled BIOSes?

Does anyone now, is it possible to setup isolinux.cfg to maybe detect a keypress, say
shift held down, then can add the acpi=off boot param?

re the alsa card database slowness, at least it only has to happen once, assuming you can get the personal file saved of course.

Looking at your snapshot, it is trying to save to "/dev/"
in other words, a partition has not been selected. When shutting down the first time, and the list of available partitions is displayed, did you use up/down arrow keys to choose a partition, then press spacebar to tick it, then enter key?

[Lobster]

In p2 (Puppy2) I notice that @ has to be typed in using "

Puppy is set up for US so that is not right?
I did run the locale thing - so please test if on a pristine p2

For what it is worth
the mail prog in seamonkey is as easy to set up
but not as fast as sylpheed
It is functionally better with much better display for mailing forums without configuring (such as at yahoo)

I like sylpheed but in practical day to day usage usually end up using gmail
- I would probably use seamonkey in a head to head

This is an important point - fast but not easy to use or needing to configure or not good spam filters etc is only fast in theory
in practice the slower (and seamonkey mail is fast enough) is faster (to set up and use

I vote seamonkey. Others?

[MU]

I really like sylpheed.
But if sylpheed would be an additional Dotpup, seamonkey is ok as default, too.
I think it will be easier to create a sylpheed-dotpup than a seamonkeymail-dotpup.

Mark

[Ted p2 Dog]

I was able to get full save/ restore with these mini scripts ( puppy2 only)

CD-Multisession:

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CDR="/dev/hdd"
hdparm -d1 $CDR
rm /initrd/pup_rw/etc/.XLOADED
rm /initrd/pup_rw/*.sfs
mkisofs -D -J -R -C `cdrecord -msinfo dev=ATAPI:${CDR}` -M  ${CDR}  -quiet -new-dir-mode 0755 -graft-points `date "+%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M"`=/initrd/pup_rw/ | cdrecord -v gracetime=1 speed=8 dev=ATAPI:${CDR}  -

DVD-multisession:

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rm /initrd/pup_rw/etc/.XLOADED
rm /initrd/pup_rw/*.sfs
growisofs -M /dev/dvd -D -J -R -quiet -new-dir-mode 0755 -graft-points `date "+%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M"`=/initrd/pup_rw/