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Wary Puppy 0.9.4 (094) feedback
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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Fri 29 Oct 2010, 17:18    Post subject:  
Such never happened before :

There had been always complains about initrd.gz

and now its my turn !

the initrd wrote some dirs and driver files to /lib/modules/2.6.31.14

booting wary-094 frugal installed to /wary-094 folder on top level of MacPup on ext2 fs.
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Fri 29 Oct 2010, 17:24    Post subject: Re: Missing FF packages...  
Sage wrote:

Claws is now an independent fork from Sylpheed-Claws, so, please, could kind coder compile Claws? Would recommend it replace Sylpheed in the .pet list, although EudoraOSE 1.0 would be even better.


I'm no coder but I did compile claws mail and it seems to work but I don't know for sure, anyhow the attached file shows what I did and maybe tronkel would make the two pets necessary since he has a site to post them on,yikes, I shouldn't volunteer other people to help.
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tronkel


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 03:13    Post subject:  
@sage

Just been checking out the possibility of compiling Thunderbird. A cinch in Ubuntu, but very problematic for Wary by the looks of it. EudoraOSE sounds like a good idea, but is likely to be as problematical in Wary as Thunderbird is.

Claws-Mail may be a better idea for Wary. It's a nice program too. If my memory seves me correctly, I once had a go with compiling Claws-Mail. The main program was fine, but the plugins were a problem to compile - can't remember why.

However things may have improved by this time as regards the compiling possibilites here. How vital are the plugins for you?

I'll look into this anyway and get back if I have any joy.
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Sage

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 04:12    Post subject:  
There's another recent thread which discusses Eudora. Someone did do a compile but not for this Wary. As I remember, there was a size issue, but perhaps not too serious? Curious to know whether the Mozilla Foundation completely destroyed Eudora or improved it. I detest Thunderbird with it's obvious bloat, lack of intuitive nature, clumsiness and unacceptable missing functionality. It is said that Thunderbird now incorporates Eudora code; let's hope that the reverse is not true!
As for Claws plug-ins, not my bag, although I'd like a read-ahead function for collecting email addresses from the addressbook and a better header display like blah-blah from Eudora. Claws doesn't seem to have alternative date format displays, either? More transatlantic myopia?!
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 05:22    Post subject:  
Na, no-go with claws-mail so far

Configures and builds fine, but no SSL available (therefore no IMAP) even with gnutils and openssl installed and configured.

Crashes as well. Bummer.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 10:05    Post subject: EudoraOSE
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Sage wrote:
There's another recent thread which discusses Eudora. Someone did do a compile but not for this Wary. As I remember, there was a size issue, but perhaps not too serious? Curious to know whether the Mozilla Foundation completely destroyed Eudora or improved it. I detest Thunderbird with it's obvious bloat, lack of intuitive nature, clumsiness and unacceptable missing functionality. It is said that Thunderbird now incorporates Eudora code; let's hope that the reverse is not true!

I downloaded the EudoraOSE tar file from https://wiki.mozilla.org/Eudora_OSE and unpacked it, then went into the Eudora directory that it created and just clicked on the Eudora file and away it went.I dragged that file to the desktop and just clicking on it starts Eudora.I found the proper icon in the chrome subdirectory of the Eudora directory and after right clicking on the desktop icon and moving up one item to "file Eudora" you can use the proper icon.
I hope this helps.

The only mail reader that I use is Pidgin for my hotmail account so I know nothing about claws or Eudora.

edit: Sage: Eudora works on my hotmail account.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 10:50    Post subject:  
Tronkel... using your SM2.0.10. Very solid. think I might extract dbus and make an sfs of seamonkey. I already have an sfs of dbus that works nicely. That way I can make it simply available to all puppies on my drive.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 11:06    Post subject:  
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Tronkel... using your SM2.0.10. Very solid. think I might extract dbus and make an sfs of seamonkey


Or do you need a pet with Seamonkey 2.0.10 but without the dbus stuff included? If so I'll build it.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 11:09    Post subject:  
tronkel wrote:
DaveS wrote:
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Tronkel... using your SM2.0.10. Very solid. think I might extract dbus and make an sfs of seamonkey


Or do you need a pet with Seamonkey 2.0.10 but without the dbus stuff included? If so I'll build it.


No, an sfs works better as it can be shared. Thanks though....
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 11:31    Post subject:  
Billtoo: Genius strikes when you least expect it! Thanks a bunch. [Hotmail is M$ isn't it? Don't trust that organisation!]. *

For reasons I forget (but there were some) I typed <poweroff> in a console. Locked solid. Did strange things when I did a hard reset (FULL), too, but eventually recovered everything. Probably I shouldn't have done it, but then...

*Update: did all that. Clicked both eudora & eudora-bin - zilch. Tried moving to /opt from /root. Nothing! Tried a load of stuff like trying to run from the command line - no joy. Remember I don't do SW - so if there's some little thing extra that an experienced SW chappie does, I would need to be told!
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 12:00    Post subject:  
Sage wrote:
Billtoo: Genius strikes when you least expect it! Thanks a bunch. [Hotmail is M$ isn't it? Don't trust that organisation!].


You are welcome, yes it is M$, I've had that account for years and no problems yet,I don't use it much except for a linux magazine that comes every month and I also get spam from companies whose products I've purchased, HP,Sony,etc.When you register a purchase they like to keep in touch. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 12:02    Post subject:  
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 12:59    Post subject:  
Sage wrote:


*Update: did all that. Clicked both eudora & eudora-bin - zilch. Tried moving to /opt from /root. Nothing! Tried a load of stuff like trying to run from the command line - no joy. Remember I don't do SW - so if there's some little thing extra that an experienced SW chappie does, I would need to be told!


The file that works for me is eudora, see it on the desktop under the connect icon.

The two screenshots show changing to the proper icon by dragging and dropping after right clicking on the one under the connect icon.

edit: I have the wary_devx_094.sfs installed, do you? It's available in the same place that you got the wary 094 iso if you don't. To install the devx to a full install I always use SFS_Installer-1.0-430.pet which is available on the forum (extra software thread) although I haven't tried it yet in wary 094 because I'm running off a flash drive with a save file.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 14:15    Post subject:  
@sage

If Eudora basically runs in Wary, but you can't get it to start, then it's probably some minor thing with the set up.

If my eyesight is up to it later, I'll download a working Eudora tarball and set up a pet package that runs on my hardware. If it then refuses to run on yours, the reason will probably be some missing library or package on your system.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 15:04    Post subject:  
Gee, t'anks guys. No, I don't have the devx, nor the SFS installer - but now I know how & why. Work in progress...

Later: did an exact search for <SFS_Installer-1.0-430.pet > on both the Forum and BK's blog - nil results in both cases. Found a 'Linker' but not an 'Installer'. Any chance of a clue, please?!

More: the devx file seems to self load to an .sfs which can be toggled by a right click. However, Eudora still doesn't come up.
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