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#331 Post by noryb009 »

Puppy does NOT appear in the boot tab of msconfig. You aren't missing anything there.

When you reboot, a screen similar to this should appear for about 5 seconds. At that point, press the down key to select "Start Puppy Linux", then the enter key.

If you do not see this when you boot up, open a cmd with administrator privileges, and run the command "bcdedit" . Look at the timeout (first section), and make sure there is a real-mode boot sector section with:
identifier {random-characters}
device partition=C:
path \grldr.mbr
description Start Puppy Linux

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#332 Post by rokytnji »

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harry@biker:/media/01CF54DDED227E00/Slacko-Puppy-Linux-5.7.0
$ ls
initrd.gz               readme.txt               uninst.exe
puppy_slacko_5.7.0.sfs  slackosave-harry1st.3fs  vmlinuz
harry@biker:/media/01CF54DDED227E00/Slacko-Puppy-Linux-5.7.0
and

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harry@biker:/media/01CF54DDED227E00
$ ls
093230c5be3240a86616              HP
093715c866f26335dee0              menu.lst
0ded4fd792b54934c37990734bc6      pagefile.sys
21e88d5f9c2745d30fd1              PerfLogs
39f271f968959cc8a5a9              ProgramData
3fe615a2c03ab6176f1b99657e389b45  Program Files
5edea29ffb268815c72de41ef40ad9    Program Files (x86)
7cd0958650ead77664d485f8d4        Puppy_Backup
a1b5c8f927bd741f7033              Recovery
Backups                           $Recycle.Bin
boot                              RHDSetup.log
bootmgr                           SearchProtect
c7f44a32908ea3f3d2989dfd16d996ce  skype-4.0.0.8.sfs
Config.Msi                        Slacko-Puppy-Linux-5.7.0
devx_slacko_5.6.0.sfs             SWSetup
Documents and Settings            SYSTEM.SAV
eac9405019a001b1600419            System Volume Information
END                               Temp
grldr                             user.js
grldr.mbr                         Users
Grub_GUI.gz                       Windows
hiberfil.sys
harry@biker:/media/01CF54DDED227E00
and after I told the .exe to install grub during install process. I was left with a menu.list of

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timeout=5
default=0
gfxmenu=/Grub_GUI.gz

title Slacko Puppy Linux 5.7.0
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /Slacko-Puppy-Linux-5.7.0/initrd.gz
kernel /Slacko-Puppy-Linux-5.7.0/vmlinuz psubdir="Slacko-Puppy-Linux-5.7.0" pfix=fsck
initrd /Slacko-Puppy-Linux-5.7.0/initrd.gz
boot

title Slacko Puppy Linux 5.7.0 - Do not load save file
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /Slacko-Puppy-Linux-5.7.0/initrd.gz
kernel /Slacko-Puppy-Linux-5.7.0/vmlinuz psubdir="Slacko-Puppy-Linux-5.7.0" pfix=ram
initrd /Slacko-Puppy-Linux-5.7.0/initrd.gz
boot
on my working install.

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# df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda5       122G   43G   79G  36% /initrd/mnt/dev_save
/dev/loop1      4.0G  2.0G  2.0G  51% /initrd/pup_rw
tmpfs           158M  157M 1000K 100% /initrd/mnt/tmpfs
/dev/loop0      157M  157M     0 100% /initrd/pup_ro2
/dev/loop4      140M  140M     0 100% /initrd/pup_ro4
/dev/loop5       39M   39M     0 100% /initrd/pup_ro5
unionfs         4.0G  2.0G  2.0G  51% /
tmpfs           2.8G  1.5M  2.8G   1% /tmp
shmfs           149M  4.0K  149M   1% /dev/shm
/dev/sda3        15G   13G  1.7G  89% /mnt/sda3
/dev/sda6       9.8G  3.6G  5.7G  40% /mnt/sda6
/dev/sda7        77G   11G   62G  16% /mnt/sda7
/dev/sda4       4.0G  2.9G  1.1G  73% /mnt/sda4
/dev/sda1       199M   29M  171M  15% /mnt/sda1
# inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: biker Kernel: 3.10.32 i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.7.1) 
           Desktop: JWM git-905 
           Distro: Slacko Puppy Linux Linux 3.10.32 [ arch] 
Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard (portable) product: Presario CQ57 Notebook PC v: 068C110003204910000620100
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 3577 v: 24.48
           Bios: Hewlett-Packard v: F.42 date: 11/07/2011
CPU:       Dual core AMD C-50 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB
           flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 3993 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 1000 MHz 2: 1000 MHz
Graphics:  Card: ATI Device 9804 bus-ID: 00:01.0
           Display Server: X.org 1.12.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: vesa)
           tty size: 80x24 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) 
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.10.32
Network:   Card-1: Ralink Device 5390
           driver: rt2800pci v: 2.3.0 bus-ID: 07:00.0
           IF: wlan0 state: up speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: 2000 bus-ID: 06:00.0
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (33.3% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD2500BEVT size: 250.1GB
Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 5.07GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda8 
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 60.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 60.0 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 105 Uptime: 23 min Memory: 294.7/1623.5MB 
           Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.7.1 
           Client: Shell (bash 4.1.01) inxi: 2.1.28 

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#333 Post by moijdikssekool »

ok i have created a new topic here for my problem (no puppy at boot)

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#334 Post by bigpup »

Several people are posting warnings about installing Puppy on a system with Windows 8.

Example:
teddog wrote:Grub needs to be GPT harddrive layout setup Grub4Dos is not. Not a good idea to setup dual boot with a win8 hardware. Win8 expects to be only OS on hardware and is very sloppy with harddrive to gain boot speed ( expects stuff to the byte for byte same as it left it. or it will self corrupt )
Hope you backup your machine prior to attempting dual boot, I got an un bootible and was so messed up I had to zero wipe and reload HD image from a eariler backup. This corruption also occurs if you access the harddrive outside of Win8 using ANY linux.

more on harddrive corruption issues The harddrive can be error free in linux but wrong since the copy of harddrive layout in hybridation is reused witbout reloading for changes. This is the source of the windows8 self corruption. Machines need to be shutdown without going into DEFUALT soft fast boot mode with hybernation mode. Win8.1 stop respecting user wishes and will override BACK to defualt mode during updates of anything.
Makes it almost impossible to safely dual boot. By design.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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#335 Post by mikeb »

I am of the way of thinking if you buy a shiny new windows 8 machine then use windows 8...thats what you have paid for after all.

I suppose the other approach is to remove windows 8 and try and make the bios/hardware behave as would normally be expected for a PC.

I don't believe windows 8 support has been added to this installer yet...and these complications is probably why.

I assume when these machines cease to be new then the linux world will have a handle on how to deal with them reliably.

mike

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#336 Post by noryb009 »

I don't believe windows 8 support has been added to this installer yet...and these complications is probably why.
It wasn't for a while, mostly since I didn't have access to a secure boot windows 8 system. Playing around, I found that once secure boot is off and the UEFI is in legacy mode, it acts similar to Windows 7. I've been planning on making the installer compatible with secure boot and UEFI for a while, but I've just not had the time. I may look at it again this summer.

bigpup: I've heard that the windows can be unforgiving if you touch it when it's hibernated. When I researched the issue when I added Windows 8 support, I decided it was not necessary to disable fast boot. However, I'm adding it to the first post and adding notes to the downloads as a precaution. I've asked Ted Dog if he was using my installer at the time - I haven't heard of any unbootable windows installations caused by the installer.

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#337 Post by Sevhead »

I wanted to use the .exe installer for how simple it seemed to use. I turned off fast boot, disabled secure boot, and and the UEFI is set to legacy. WHen the loader starts, I select "start puppy linux", and am given the folowwing error:

Image

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#338 Post by noryb009 »

Sevhead: I've been looking at this issue off and on, and as far as I can tell, it either has to do with having an GPT partition table, or UEFI (even on legacy). You are welcome to investigate further, and please share your findings if you do find a way to run it. Just a warning - if you decide to switch partition tables, everything on that drive will be deleted.

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#339 Post by xanad »

Ciao noryb009,
Update Italian Windows Installer - New versions translated at 99%.

Puppy_Precise_IT 571.exe (206 Mb) :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
Puppy_Slacko_IT_570.exe (173 Mb) :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
Puppy_Slacko_IT_593.exe (223 Mb) :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
Puppy_Precise_Retro_IT 571.exe (181 Mb) :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing
Puppy_Slacko_NO-pae_IT_570.exe (182 Mb) :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9e78 ... sp=sharing

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#340 Post by mikeb »

Nice one xanad...thanks for supporting this excellent project

mike

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#341 Post by noryb009 »

Thank you, xanad! I've updated the first post.

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#342 Post by xanad »

Thank you for the project ! I consider the best way to install a frugal puppy. Wary , Racy , Precise , Lupu528 , Slacko 560/570/593 together and no more problems with the boot .

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#343 Post by noryb009 »

Tahrpup 6.0 CE has been uploaded, see the link in the first post.

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#344 Post by ally »

all mirrored here: [url]http:archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_Windows_Installer[/url]

:)

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#345 Post by noryb009 »

Thanks for that, ally! I didn't know archive.org included software. Anyway, I'll add it to the first post.

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#346 Post by ally »

norby, where have you been!

over 2750 puppy iso's up, copies of ibilio repositories and pets, sfs, delta's and more for many others

somewhere around the 1Tb mark up, more going up everyday

:)

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#347 Post by Chili Dog »

Using the installer on 8.1 gives "unknown Windows version". And, judging by earlier posts about Windows 8 not booting after use, the Puppy Linux Windows Installer is obviously obsolete, and dangerous on modern computers.

F*ck Microsoft for what they have done to our machines, and hurting Linux in this way.

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#348 Post by mikeb »

the Puppy Linux Windows Installer is obviously obsolete, and dangerous on modern computers.
a bit strong mate...I believe 'new and unventured territoty ' would be better.... norby has done the trick for all other versions...why not this one.

Actually what you meant to say was that windows was obsolete and the sooner the better :D

On the other side yer average window 8.1 machine is going to be a PITA on linux anyway...why not use the glorious OS you paid for until something better comes along?


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#349 Post by Chili Dog »

No it's not, because, as others have noted, changes in Windows 8 boot method mean that using this app could break your Windows 8 installation. Therefore, it's dangerous.

Why don't you go use the Windows you paid for? You know, since it comes on every PC sold in stores whether you like it or not. (Enjoy your Microsoft tax.)

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#350 Post by mikeb »

Simply a suitable method of using this instaler has yet to be formulated.
I assume its this that you are talking about and not problems from repartitioning or UFEI

For vista and 7 (and possibly 8) I just rename bootmgr and replace with grldr and use chainloading...I wonder how that would work with 8.1?

Use the windows you paid for...after a year or 3 Linux distros will have built up driver support and then use it and dump the windows.

Perhaps you could do some testing if you have a machine with 8.1 on it.

mike

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