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noryb009
Joined: 20 Mar 2010 Posts: 512
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Posted: Fri 29 Apr 2011, 15:14 Post subject:
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I don't think this problem is related to the windows installer anymore. If the menu.lst is OK, and puppy boots, then it's puppy's fault (I think).
2 things you can try:
1) Double check the MD5 sum on "Puppy Linux 520.exe" (it's 13c4b413ebe0e4f0cbfd1e9ed4ca37dd )
2) Try the 525 installer in the first post.
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mrd
Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 125
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Posted: Fri 29 Apr 2011, 17:21 Post subject:
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I'll give it a shot, but I tried the Lin N Win config with my .iso and got the same results even tough the .iso boots and installs fine on other systems. I've had this problem on older versions and it was always something to do with the menu.lst. I'm wondering if the (hd0,0) option is causing some issues since there is a recovery partition on this latop that sows up as a boot option. trying to examine the partitions in gparted shows an "unknown" partition that takes up the entire sata drive?
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reasonit
Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 54
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Posted: Sat 30 Apr 2011, 05:07 Post subject:
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Thanks a ton for this! Exactly what I was looking for.
I tried the 525 pre-compiled version.
2 things:
1. 2 entries were added in boot.ini instead of one.
2. Persistence isn't working . It says its saving the file. But upon rebooting it doesn't load the saved file. The saved fie is located in my D drive(ntfs partition) Edit: persistence works if the save file in on the C drive . .
puppy is fantastic
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noryb009
Joined: 20 Mar 2010 Posts: 512
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Posted: Sat 30 Apr 2011, 07:59 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | 1. 2 entries were added in boot.ini instead of one. |
Did you have puppy installed before?
Do they say the same thing? (Start Puppy Linux)
If you reinstall puppy (keeping save file and deleting grub when asked) do 2 appear still?
| Quote: | | 2. Persistence isn't working . It says its saving the file. But upon rebooting it doesn't load the saved file. The saved fie is located in my D drive(ntfs partition) Edit: persistence works if the save file in on the C drive . . |
If you want to use the D drive for your save file, edit C:\menu.lst and remove the psubdir="Puppy-Linux-525" part.
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reasonit
Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 54
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Posted: Sat 30 Apr 2011, 09:23 Post subject:
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| Quote: | Did you have puppy installed before?
Do they say the same thing? (Start Puppy Linux)
If you reinstall puppy (keeping save file and deleting grub when asked) do 2 appear still? |
nope
no and yes. It says been grubed. not start puppy linux
and I'll try that.
Edit: I tried it again. This time only one entry was created ! So I guess something's messed up at my end. Sorry!
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mrd
Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 125
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Posted: Sat 30 Apr 2011, 14:54 Post subject:
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This works on an IBM laptop, but when I try to create the pup_save file it freezes. If I power the system off, the file seems to be there, but was corrupted on my first attempt.
I've never had trouble creating the save file on this system before?
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mrd
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Posted: Sat 30 Apr 2011, 22:01 Post subject:
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Well, it eventually worked but it took over an hour to create the save file?
Still doesn't work on my Dell laptop. I see the same issue with teh missing lupu_525.sfs.
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noryb009
Joined: 20 Mar 2010 Posts: 512
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Posted: Sat 30 Apr 2011, 23:10 Post subject:
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| Quote: | This works on an IBM laptop, but when I try to create the pup_save file it freezes. If I power the system off, the file seems to be there, but was corrupted on my first attempt.
I've never had trouble creating the save file on this system before? |
Probably slow disk I/O, Try creating a 32MB file, then resizing it with the resize tool in the menu (if you ever upgrade to a newer puppy)
| Quote: | | Still doesn't work on my Dell laptop. I see the same issue with teh missing lupu_525.sfs. |
I'm sorry, but I don't think I can help you. I think it's either:
- you have a USB/CD in the drive that puppy thinks is the main drive
- the hard drive isn't supported by linux (in newer kernels, which would be why it works in 431)
- you are using a corrupted version of NTFS (or linux isn't updated or something, not sure)
- puppy is having trouble with your configuration
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reasonit
Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 54
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Posted: Sun 01 May 2011, 12:20 Post subject:
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ok I removed the "psubdir = Puppy" part , but persistence still doesn't work on d drive
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noryb009
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Posted: Sun 01 May 2011, 13:53 Post subject:
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When you boot puppy, what is the D partition? (like sda)
Could I see your menu.lst?
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reasonit
Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 54
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Posted: Sun 01 May 2011, 17:07 Post subject:
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don't have access to my PC. will post menu.1st in the morning. my d drive is sda5 , while my c drive is sda1 (on which persistence works)
Last edited by reasonit on Mon 02 May 2011, 04:09; edited 1 time in total
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reasonit
Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 54
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Posted: Mon 02 May 2011, 02:16 Post subject:
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My menu.1st : | Quote: | timeout=5
default=0
gfxmenu=/Grub_GUI.gz
title Puppy Linux 525
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /Puppy-Linux-525/initrd.gz
kernel /Puppy-Linux-525/vmlinuz pfix=fsck
initrd /Puppy-Linux-525/initrd.gz
boot
title Puppy Linux 525 - Do not load save file
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /Puppy-Linux-525/initrd.gz
kernel /Puppy-Linux-525/vmlinuz pfix=ram
initrd /Puppy-Linux-525/initrd.gz
boot
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9393 Location: SwedenEurope
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Posted: Mon 02 May 2011, 10:30 Post subject:
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Would it complicate things to add this
title Puppy Linux 525
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /Puppy-Linux-525/initrd.gz
kernel /Puppy-Linux-525/vmlinuz psubdir=Puppy-Linux-525 pfix=fsck
initrd /Puppy-Linux-525/initrd.gz
boot
Using psubdir=Puppy-Linux-525 would allow them to easily add any other puppy using it as an template? Just a thought?
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ICPUG
Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 1278 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed 04 May 2011, 07:52 Post subject:
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reasonit
Where have you installed Puppy on C or D drive?
I think the save file has to be on the same drive as the puppy files (or at least mimic the directory structure -my memory is vague). This may explain why persistence works to C if your Puppy files are on C.
Nooby
I agree. When a subdirectory is used then psubdir is very beneficial - not just for the reason you quote but also to boot up Puppy quicker. It does not go searching everywhere if psubdir is defined.
mrd
Where do you install the puppy files on the Dell. What does your menu.lst look like.
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noryb009
Joined: 20 Mar 2010 Posts: 512
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Posted: Wed 04 May 2011, 21:15 Post subject:
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| ICPUG wrote: | | Where have you installed Puppy on C or D drive? |
The windows installer only installs to the C drive
| ICPUG wrote: | | I think the save file has to be on the same drive as the puppy files (or at least mimic the directory structure -my memory is vague). This may explain why persistence works to C if your Puppy files are on C. |
That would explain it then.
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