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Aitch


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Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2011, 07:14    Post subject:  

noryb009

Quick report on puppylinux525 exe:

I am running XP, had a previous win32/421.exe which I un-installed [more anon]

d/l'd and ran the 525 installer, and NADA!

There was a folder but no boot page/grub?

So, I re-installed 421.exe, as I couldn't figure it out, and lo and behold , I get a choice between 421 and 525/525 no pupsave

Great.....went through the setup steps, downloaded ff/xorghigh....looking good....go for reboot

asked to save, yes.....where....C:'s a bit full so D: yes, ext3, 1gb....great

reboot

no pupsave recognised

did another saved to C: [(FAT32)... realise now it was placed inside the 525 folder] and that one worked....
so with a bit of fiddling, I moved the original pupsave renamed to the 525 folder on C:, and its working

puzzled about the pupsave as I know people are using other drives including USB flash on a 'standard frugal install with grub'?

also, in hindsight, it appears the grubloader bit wasn't added to my boot.ini file, I think, with the 525.exe originally

now I just need to reduce the 30 second wait..... Wink

HTH

not sure that's a proper fix, but it's working

Aitch Smile
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2011, 15:21    Post subject:  

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d/l'd and ran the 525 installer, and NADA!

There was a folder but no boot page/grub?


Because of you already having GRUB installed, it may have picked that up. (if C:\boot\grub\grub.exe or C:\grldr exists, it doesn't install grub). Was the 421.exe from this installer also?

Quote:
did another saved to C: [(FAT32)... realise now it was placed inside the 525 folder] and that one worked....
so with a bit of fiddling, I moved the original pupsave renamed to the 525 folder on C:, and its working


Not tested, but try: edit menu.lst and change psubdir="Puppy-Linux-525" to psubdir="FolderInDDriveButNotInCDrive" then create the folder in the D drive.

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now I just need to reduce the 30 second wait.....


Where is the timeout? Windows or GRUB?

Windows:
open /mnt/sda1/boot.ini and change timeout=30 to timeout=5
(or add a line "timeout=5" if you don't see one)

Linux: In /mnt/sda1/menu.lst, change timeout to 5[/quote]
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Aug 2011, 21:17    Post subject:  

Puppy Linux 528 pre-compiled: http://www.mediafire.com/?58m107bbkob3c7g

Mirror if first link is down.

Also added to first post.
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charbaby66

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Aug 2011, 04:33    Post subject:  awesome!  

I can't thank you enough.. now I can easily puppify my Windows-using
friends!!

I chose the 528 exe and it worked flawlessly with XP 32bit on an IBM T41
1G ram, 60G hd Radeon 7500 both without pupsave, and with my 528 pupsave copied from usb or choosing the newly created one made.

I love the splash screen, as I usually do my own GRUB install I have never
seen this, not having used a Lin n Win install before. Like the boot choice
of savefile or pfix=ram done for me.

Since installing via XP felt like cheating I am going to do the Linux install soon, thanks for the helpful pointers and clarifications posted.

The only thing for me is that it installs to /Puppy-Linux-528 whereas I generally install to /puppy528. Not sure if this newb picked this up as
the way many others do it, or just if I am too lazy to add the extra caps and dashes etc.

If there are others like me, I can see how one could think files are lost or not installed because they are not where you "think" they are. I expect this only inconveniences those of us with some Puppy/Linux experience -
I bet I am not the only one who has spent time chasing code that points to the wrong place! -so simple to fix, hard to see! Windows users probably
like it as is.

I am going to see if I can edit a bit w/o breaking anything in this install to get it back to my "defaults" not worried about the Puppy side but I am rusty in XP now and I shutter to think I need to useredit to change paths
for the uninstall, I LOL to think that I am more at ease in Puppy now! Graduated to advanced Newb Smile

528 is my #1 fav pup, your tool makes it A1!!
Thanks again!!!
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adXok

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Aug 2011, 08:09    Post subject:  

The installer runs fine on Windows 7 ultimate x64 but...

· after the reboot it hags after the audio signal: barking dog (two times)
· the monitor enters Power Saving Mood
· seems like the PC falls asleep (!?)
· the PC is a new ASUS machine with i7 and 8GB RAM, 2 video cards Ati Radeon in Crss-Fire mode (suppose they provoke the hanging!)

Smile

Later i will test it at home on my Windows XP Pro x32 with a built-in video (think it was Nvidia 7100/i630 or something)
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Sep 2011, 20:54    Post subject:  

Sorry for not replying sooner, I was busy.
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I love the splash screen

You can thank teasiu for that.
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The only thing for me is that it installs to /Puppy-Linux-528 whereas I generally install to /puppy528. Not sure if this newb picked this up as
the way many others do it, or just if I am too lazy to add the extra caps and dashes etc.

It's just personal preference. I like to keep things well labeled and readable, so I use the long name.

adXok: Have you tried puppy 528 before on that computer? That sounds like it's from Puppy, not the installer.
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adXok

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep 2011, 12:44    Post subject:  

Nope, testing Puppy with Windows Installer v1.1 for the first time, never have tried Puppy whatever booting way on that system (no CD, nor USB-flash drive). Just wanted to install it.

At home WInXP Pro x32 bit the same installer runs fine and puppy loads fine and smooth as a breeze. I wonder where the problem might be in my office system? Smile
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep 2011, 15:51    Post subject:  

It most likely is the crossfire, but I'm not an expert.

You should repost your problem here.
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adXok

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep 2011, 16:43    Post subject:  

Another strange thing is that when I try to install the .sfs packeges for skype, adobe acrobat reader and the others in the list of Quickpet it tells me that I need to install Puppy in order to use .sfs packeges.

Seems that is a limitation when using Puppy Linux Windows Installer (any version I suppose). Sad
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep 2011, 16:48    Post subject:  

I'm pretty sure that goes away when you create a save file and reboot.
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adXok

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Sep 2011, 04:28    Post subject:  

^ yes you are right, but...

Here are some concerns I've noticed when using 'Puppy Linux Windows Installer v1.1':

1. It installs Puppy right in the Windows partition (commonly known as C:\)
- I expected to ask me where to install, really Sad

2. When a session is saved there is a problem loading it if it is not saved in the Puppy installation Folder (default in C:\<Puppy-Folder> made by the 'Puppy Linux Windows Installer v1.1')
- first I saved it in another folder in a second hard drive... didn't load after rebooting the system, loads (searches for, tries to finds) default lupu-528.sfs instead
- tried to edit the menu.lst file without success, by default installation it says:
Code:
title Puppy Linux 528
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /Puppy-Linux-528/initrd.gz
kernel /Puppy-Linux-528/vmlinuz psubdir="Puppy-Linux-528" pfix=fsck
initrd /Puppy-Linux-528/initrd.gz
boot

which I tried to edit entering: (h1,7) and subdir=xxx-xxx, here and there, leads to error loading the saved session in that drive in its proper folder: xxx-xxx

Finally I moved the saved session file in the default directory (in C:\), restored the default 'menu.lst' file and after reboot it loaded the correct new saved session.

Maybe that's the way the Installer was meant to work anyway, do not know! Whatever, now I test it and it works fine so far.
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PostPosted: Sun 11 Sep 2011, 12:45    Post subject:  

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1. It installs Puppy right in the Windows partition (commonly known as C:\)
- I expected to ask me where to install, really


I think I didn't give users an option to choose their sub directory because it has to be in the root directory and has to have no spaces.
Most people use C as their only hard drive partition, so I set that as the default.

I might add a directory option in the next version, which will be whenever I get some free time.

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2. When a session is saved there is a problem loading it if it is not saved in the Puppy installation Folder (default in C:\<Puppy-Folder> made by the 'Puppy Linux Windows Installer v1.1')

This was done for simplicity, as Puppy lets users pick what save file they want to use. This narrows the save files down to the files in C:\<Puppy-Folder>, which should all be compatible with the puppy version. I also don't think puppy can use a save file on a different partition.

The installer is meant to get Puppy onto a windows system quickly and without asking the user many questions.
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adXok

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Sep 2011, 16:14    Post subject:  

That is what I thought so also.

Another problem:
· seems like new downloaded .sfs packages from Qiuckpet go in C:\ and NOT in the Puppy directory (C:\<Puppy-directory>)

I move them into Puppy directory manually afterwards, yet I am afraid that way they will not load in Puppy startup...

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Sep 2011, 21:36    Post subject:  

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· seems like new downloaded .sfs packages from Qiuckpet go in C:\ and NOT in the Puppy directory (C:\<Puppy-directory>)


I'm pretty sure the correct directory for SFS files is /mnt/home, which is C:\.
This is so that multiple puppies (like C:\puppy123 and C:\puppy456) can use the same SFS file, saving space on your hard drive.

If you move them to the puppy folder, it will not load at start up (I'm pretty sure...).
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Sep 2011, 07:06    Post subject:  

We are both wrong.
After moving the .sfs to C:\Puppy-Lucid-528 everything loads perfect!

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